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Nigel
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posted January 31, 2004 09:36 PM      Profile for Nigel   Email Nigel   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here is a place to post thoughts and feelings about Film Cameras.

Please limit it to cameras only. Film stocks will be covered on the main board.

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posted February 02, 2004 01:36 PM      Profile for Nigel   Email Nigel   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Film is not out of reach!!! It is can be as cheap or as expensive as you want to make it....Here are some suggestions for Super8 and 16mm(Both Regular and Super 16) gear.

Cheaper--
Super8 cameras are a steal. They can go for next to nothing at thrift stores or eBay. Some good names are Beaulieu, Nizo, Eumig, Sankyo, Canon, Elmo and more. They can go well over 1000 USD but if you shop around and find one that fits your needs you shouldn't pay more than 500USD.

Cheap--
16mm cameras are dropping in price. You can find a great MOS(Loud) R16 for a couple hundred Dollars. Some names to look for on eBay or other places are--Arriflex(S, SB, ST and M), Canon Scoopic, Bolex and Filmo. These cameras won't hold sync or if they do they will be really loud and hard to record sound over but to get into 16mm for Super8 prices look at these.

More--
There is a whole range of R16mm cameras out there that are quiet enough to shoot sync but are loud by today's standards. These cameras include the Arriflex BL(Loudest of the lot), Eclair ACL and Eclair NPR. You might even be able to find an Arriflex SR1 for a song and dance if you look around and keep your eyes and ears open.

Most---
Super16 is the "Go To" format out side of 35mm. This is due to its 1:66 aspect ratio and its cheap cost in comparison. It is the ideal format for HD work too. Some cameras to keep an eye out for are Aaton LTR54, Aaton XTR(Plus and Prod), Arriflex SR1,2 and 3. All of these cameras will be quiet for sync work with the Aaton's being more quiet than the Arri's. Look at spending around 10,000USD to get into these cameras. Which is still cheaper than HD and you get better results!!

Film is far from dead. If you want to get your movie watched and taken seriously you need to be shooting film. Besides you are a "Filmmaker" right??

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posted February 03, 2004 04:29 PM      Profile for Alex   Author's Homepage   Email Alex   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Nigel:

Cheaper--
Super8 cameras are a steal. They can go for next to nothing at thrift stores or eBay. Some good names are Beaulieu, Nizo, Eumig, Sankyo, Canon, Elmo and more. They can go well over 1000 USD but if you shop around and find one that fits your needs you shouldn't pay more than 500USD.

urm, try $25.00 US dollars to $300.00 can net you a very fine Super-8 camera.

[ February 05, 2004 09:25 PM: Message edited by: Alex ]

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posted February 19, 2004 06:57 PM      Profile for WilkoUK   Email WilkoUK   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Emdeko EM-8500 Super8 Camera

Is this camera any good for making 10 minute dramas.

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posted March 02, 2004 03:41 PM      Profile for Randanvolio     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
How much would it cost to film 60 mins on film using super8?

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Nigel
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posted March 02, 2004 03:59 PM      Profile for Nigel   Email Nigel   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The cost of the 60 minutes of film will depend on if you want color or B&W?? Do you want Neg or Pos?? There are some more factors that go into it too but I would guess that it would be less than $325USD.

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posted March 29, 2004 08:33 PM      Profile for Justin Marquez   Email Justin Marquez   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Cameras are cheap. Film and development is where it gets expensive.

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Nigel
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posted March 31, 2004 04:30 AM      Profile for Nigel   Email Nigel   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Film and processing are cheap. It just depends on what you are comparing it to.

Good Luck
PS--This is a camera thread.

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posted April 13, 2004 11:13 AM      Profile for Nigel   Email Nigel   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here are a few links that may help you start your Film Camera pursuit.....

www.aaton.com
www.arri.com
www.ikonoskop.com
www.beaulieu.de
www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/index.jhtml
www.motion.fuji.co.uk

Remember that there are a lot more places out there---Explore and go forth.

Good Luck

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Does any body know if the BELL & HOWELL 627 is any good, and does it use standard 16mm film?


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I know nothing about the camera....My guess is that it was intened as a Home-Movie Camera. If it takes 50' cartridges then you know that is what it was for--If it takes 100' daylight spools then it could have been a bit higher up the food chain.

Yes. It is Reg. 16.

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posted September 28, 2005 04:51 PM      Profile for emjen     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Allright, not really a camera question but more a film question, although I'm not entirely sure about that either.

I'd like to make a short with this rough/dreamy feeling, going for blue tints.

Now, I'm thinking Super8 can do the trick. But the Super8 footage I've seen is too 'old looking' if you know what I mean. I want it rough, but notas old home movies from the 50's.

I want it rough but clear enough. Now if anyone can help me with this, or maybe post some stills(with people)of how super8 can be it'd be off great help.

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posted November 29, 2005 08:04 PM      Profile for Serge_Valis     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I recommend a color reversal film
the lab costs are cheaper and you can get a feel for it without spending too much
heres a link to kodak's super 8mm line
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/s8mm/
My fave (though it has alot of limitations) is black and white tri-x reversal

Since this thread is about cameras...
I have a 16mm reloadable newsreel camera but no reloadable cartridge. Heres what it looks like
http://homepage.mac.com/hdinatale/iMovieTheater19.html
I would love to able to shoot a movie with it, so any info on where to find a cartridge would be greatly appreciated.

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i have an old Revere 8 mm CA-7 with a fixed focus Wollensak lens:
http://particle.physics.ucdavis.edu/Graphics/Cameras/revere_CA-7.jpg
I have read that a camera with this sort of lens will keep in focus almost anything that is 6 feet distant or more. It seems odd to shoot film without actively focusing the camera. Has anyone had any experience with this sort of lens? It can be pulled out from a 9 mm wide-angle to a 30 mm telephoto.

thanks. great forum.

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