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Alex
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posted December 01, 2003 03:58 AM
Walmart is all Heart! Woman knocked unconscious by trampling shoppers ( 2003-12-01 09:53) (Agencies) A mob of shoppers rushing for a sale on DVD players trampled the first woman in line and knocked her unconscious as they scrambled for the shelves at a Wal-Mart Supercenter. Patricia VanLester had her eye on a $29 DVD player, but when the siren blared at 6 a.m. Friday announcing the start to the post-Thanksgiving sale, the 41-year-old was knocked to the ground by the frenzy of shoppers behind her. Customers wait to enter a Wal-Mart in Cortland, New York, early Friday morning. In Florida, one woman was trampled during the shopping blitz. "She got pushed down, and they walked over her like a herd of elephants," said VanLester's sister, Linda Ellzey. "I told them, 'Stop stepping on my sister! She's on the ground!"' Ellzey said some shoppers tried to help VanLester, and one employee helped Ellzey reach her sister, but most people just continued their rush for deals. "All they cared about was a stupid DVD player," she said Saturday. Paramedics called to the store found VanLester unconscious on top of a DVD player, surrounded by shoppers seemingly oblivious to her, said Mark O'Keefe, a spokesman for EVAC Ambulance. She was flown to Halifax Medical Center in Daytona Beach, where doctors told the family VanLester had a seizure after she was knocked down and would likely remain hospitalized through the weekend, Ellzey said. Hospital officials said Saturday they did not have any information on her condition. "She's all black and blue," Ellzey said. "Patty doesn't remember anything. She still can't believe it all happened." Ellzey said Wal-Mart officials called later Friday to ask about her sister, and the store apologized and offered to put a DVD player on hold for her. Wal-Mart Stores spokeswoman Karen Burk said she had never heard of a such a melee during a sale. "We are very disappointed this happened," Burk said. "We want her to come back as a shopper." End of Story -------------------------------------- Who pays for the Hospital stay?
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posted December 01, 2003 05:18 PM
'OK, this is probably a "rating sweeps month" kind of question.'What does 'rating sweeps month' mean? 'However, it can actually be a very deep philosophical question. The United States continues to talk about freedom as it relates to the economy, yet medical expenses continue to rise.' Then we need to clarify which area of moral and/or ethical socio-political and/or socio-philosophical spheres that concerns us. The - unfairly disproportionate, as you perceive it - rise in American medical expenses is a governmental issue more than a philosophical one per se. In other words, any amelioration is achieved politically and not so much philosophically. 'This women probably will be staring at a $15,000 dollar hospital bill. Either she pays it or someone pays it for her. I'm just curious who SHOULD pay for it.' The answer is usually dependant on the individual's social status and financial capabilites? If it transpires that the individual is financially incapable of paying the bill, and the State, in turn, equally refuses, then we effectively find ourselves facing a reformist issue - which is, of course, 'a whole different ball game,' as you Americans put it. 'I don't know if it's fair to say that "she knew the risks".' A $29 DVD player? She knew the risks all right. 'In the U.S. the whole goal is to provide a risk free environment at all times.' This is logistically impossible to achieve, and naively stupid to even attempt. Utopianist claptrap. (Marxist ideology?) 'Whether a virtual risk free environment is a valid goal or not (another topic perhaps?), she probably has a lawsuit in her future.' No, for the aforsaid reason. Any counter-lawsuit is just another disregardable perpetuation of the boring 'compensation culture' epoch we now find ourselves relectantly living in. I'm really sorry the poor woman got crumpled - it could have been my mother out here - but to camp out (as she undoubtedly did), and risk life and limb for the sake of bloody $29 DVD player, is preposterous. D.
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posted December 02, 2003 01:48 AM
Ratings sweep month refers to the television industry's practice in the United States of picking 3 months out of the year (usually every four months) in which they bombard their own network with sensationalistic programing to get the higher than normal ratings. Those ratings are then used to set the fee structure for commercial rates for their advertisers.------------------------- Lawsuits don't just reward the alleged victim, they also force the store to take pre-emptive measures in the future. When the hordes of shoppers stormed through the door at the beginning of the day, they already were walking through modified rules and changes brought about from previous lawsuits in regards to how the doors can work, which way they must swing, width, type of glass to prevent shattering...etc. Sadly, without lawsuits, coporations would drag their feet when it comes to safeguarding their stores. I will be really curious what happens in this instance. I gotta believe it will be a settlement. If the situation is resolved without a lawsuit, what will Walmart do differently, on their own, the first day after Thanksgiving for next year to prevent a repeat of what happened this year.
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posted December 02, 2003 06:24 PM
'Ratings sweep month refers to the television industry's practice in the United States of picking 3 months out of the year (usually every four months) in which they bombard their own network with sensationalistic programing to get the higher than normal ratings. Those ratings are then used to set the fee structure for commercial rates for their advertisers.'If this methodology is as commonly known as it seems, why do you think these advertising companies allow themselves to be convinced by, what it is, essentially, disingenuous figures? 'When the hordes of shoppers stormed through the door at the beginning of the day, they already were walking through modified rules and changes brought about from previous lawsuits in regards to how the doors can work, which way they must swing, width, type of glass to prevent shattering...etc.' This is structural ergonomics, but it wasn't ergonomics that crushed the shopper, it was other shoppers. People and people's emotions. These things are far harder to rectify. 'Sadly, without lawsuits, coporations would drag their feet when it comes to safeguarding their stores.' Indeed. 'I will be really curious what happens in this instance. I gotta believe it will be a settlement.' The perennial problem, of course, for corporations is what sort of litigious precedent is set if the case goes against them. Inveterate addicts (cigarettes, food, etc.) are now espied taking Marlboro and McDonalds (respectively) to court all the time. There isn't really any justification for this, but nevertheless, it happens. A socio-cultural shift has taken place in which the pedestrian now feels empowered enough to feel that they can any body to any court for any reason. 'If the situation is resolved without a lawsuit, what will Walmart do differently, on their own, the first day after Thanksgiving for next year to prevent a repeat of what happened this year.' Only Walmart echelons know this, but I'm sure it won't hinder their capitalistic plans for next year's sale in the slightest. Business is business. D.
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posted November 24, 2004 10:44 PM
"We are very disappointed this happened," Burk said. "We want her to come back as a shopper."Typical attitude of big business. 'I don't know if it's fair to say that "she knew the risks".' A $29 DVD player? She knew the risks all right. Getting trampled on whilst waiting in a line is not an every day experience or even a common one. However ,she now has no excuse given her experience of this.unless this behaviour is quite common in America, in which case, i stand corrected. [ November 24, 2004 10:45 PM: Message edited by: drumkid ]
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