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posted October 24, 2006 02:44 PM      Profile for oldasdirt   Author's Homepage   Email oldasdirt   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The universe is infinite,God, whatever a given belief concieves this being to be in infinite.I know of no religion that argues this.The argument stems in the forms of what this "God" is concieved to be, how the door of communion with this God is open and what happens after the body dies.

The way I see it, the argument has more to do with culture and how life is viewed and what one hopes for in a world beyond.

The western/Christian based theologies teach a final state for the believer and non believer.A Heaven or a Hell based on the life lived and the beliefs held by the individual.The Eastern mystical beliefs are more based on the concept of an infinite array of possibilites, with no real ending or beginning.You reincarnate with each "death".

This I believe is more a product of culture.Western culture wants a finalty to life.An end to a means.A time where all wrongs are righted,and all good deeds rewarded.Easterners see it more as a continuing process more akin to nature and evolution.

Here are the questions:If the universe is infinite, why does there need to be a final state?Does morality as we know it exist outside of our own social constructs?If so why?
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 posted April 17, 2007 05:56 AM      Profile for Alex   Author's Homepage   Email Alex   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I'm not sure I am following your conclusions/questions. As far as I know, very few if any religions believe in "finality". I think they all believe in certain states of infinity.

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posted May 21, 2007 11:27 AM      Profile for oldasdirt   Author's Homepage   Email oldasdirt   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Alex:
IAs far as I know, very few if any religions believe in "finality". I think they all believe in certain states of infinity.
Fundamentalist Christianity does.
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 posted June 16, 2007 08:20 PM      Profile for Alex   Author's Homepage   Email Alex   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
So they don't believe in heaven?
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posted November 26, 2007 03:37 PM      Profile for oldasdirt   Author's Homepage   Email oldasdirt   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yes,they believe in Heaven and Hell.Those are the final states.
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Bt they both are supposed to go on forever.
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