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You no longer want to follow the "smart" money. The new winning is following the crooked money.

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JRobby The_Juggernaut Dec 31, 2017 4:27 PM
Message to traders: It's the FED you idiots !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Endgame Napoleon OverTheHedge Dec 31, 2017 3:26 PM
Maybe, people just have a feeling of uncertainty about the economy, resulting in “outflows.”

Could it be traditional investors who read about the heady tech boom of the 2000s, thinking that a little tech-trendy Bitcoin could rescue their retirement plans?

Or maybe, the guidance of the Equity Bot is just not trusted, prompting the outflows from what looks like a high-sloping Ponzi.

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PT OverTheHedge Dec 31, 2017 3:41 PM
Baby boomers are retiring. Instead of earning money and buying stocks they are living off of the dividends.
DIVIDENDS???? he he he he he he ...

Okay, they sell their shares but that is okay becoz the companies are buying them back and "retiring" them so they can juice up EPS.

Coming soon: Top companies all only have one share but that one share is worth A LOT of money. Oh, you thought the buy-backs would have to stop at one share?

Coming soon: Companies issuing hundredths of a share and thousandths of a share becoz just like NIRP, it sounds impossible because it is stupid but then they go ahead and do it anyway.

Fraudsters steal money.
Mathematicians are hired to create mathematical "justifications" for the fraud.
Economists are hired to white-wash the work of the mathematicians to the masses.
No-one is buying pitchforks so the Mathematicians and the Economists have successfully fulfilled their duties.

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Anarchyteez PT Jan 1, 2018 12:27 AM
Yup. Retiring boomers. Seems obvious



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el buitre OverTheHedge Dec 31, 2017 5:04 PM
Maybe I am simpleminded, but it seems to me that the only way to get out of the stawk market is to sell your shares, which means someone else has to buy them. The only way that I know of that funds can leave a rising market is corporate buybacks, which essentially vaporizes the shares. This article is a waste of time - to paraphrase Bubba, it's the corporate buybacks stupid!

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D.r. Funk OverTheHedge Dec 31, 2017 5:31 PM
What the hell?

the delusion is so-stark

The rationalization involved in justifying the timeline. Everything, everything piece of logic has supported a 100% fully controlled stock market (indexes, not stock market). I said there was command and control level programming over the indexes, 4+ years ago. Magically, that continued and continues to be affirmed, in the logic, observational logic, context, and statement like yours (or this writeup) that come up over, and over, on how and/or why the indexes are moving, or have moved, how they have

Yeah, duh, no shit, obviously, outflows have outweighed because the levels are lol-complete-bullshit and the older generation while staying silent, at least know they should be withdrawing on survival level for their grandkid generation (the older generation being generally and historically where the wealth is/lays) The stock market was never moving from inflows. Or hedgies. Or smart money. Or mom and pop. It's programmed from inner circle globalist order wall st (most likely) and all the logic merely continues to support it even though everyone continues to say "youre a looney moron". except i continue to be right

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olenumbersix OverTheHedge Jan 1, 2018 5:19 AM
So the fed creates money out of thin air, gives to banks, banks loan money to corps, corps buy back their own stock, pool of stocks shrinks, markets total shares outstanding shrink, stocks rise ? (and/or) Central banks around the world buy up stocks, perhaps push stocks higher with futures ? If true (and me thinks it is true) fuck it stay long. Can't beat infinite money, as long as it stays in the banks and markets. Of course you could run out of stocks/bonds to buy, oops.....................

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junction FreeShitter Dec 31, 2017 3:06 PM
I thought the question would be why are there so many homos in Congress?

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rccalhoun junction Dec 31, 2017 3:15 PM
negative real interest rates force other asset prices up. its called "price control"

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BigCumulusClouds rccalhoun Dec 31, 2017 3:20 PM
The data must be flawed. MICHAEL Belkin says 600B flowed out.
King World News

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rccalhoun BigCumulusClouds Dec 31, 2017 3:27 PM
the Fed is buying stocks with BTC?

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Endgame Napoleon rccalhoun Dec 31, 2017 3:30 PM
The question I have is, if interest rates rise, will rent prices go down due to declining asset values? I mean rent, not mortgage payments.

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PT Endgame Napoleon Dec 31, 2017 3:44 PM
The answer is: The people who make money from high prices have the ability to keep competitors off the market.

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Endgame Napoleon PT Dec 31, 2017 7:23 PM
“Ask and ye shall receive.”

Thanks.....................

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Carl Panzram FreeShitter Jan 1, 2018 4:24 PM
Patience, you must learn patience. Wait for it to come to you, and it’s coming.

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topspinslicer Dec 31, 2017 2:53 PM
What did Greenspan say about can't promise the purchasing power of the dollar by the time you sell your stock

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Roger Ramjet Dec 31, 2017 3:04 PM
Who's buying? It might be time to audit the Fed. Furthermore, if real capital has flowed out of the market, it appears to have been replaced by debt, lots of it. As Nelson and William Hunt discovered while trying to corner the silver market in the '80s, a margin call can be very painful.

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D.r. Funk Roger Ramjet Dec 31, 2017 5:32 PM
They yanked it up, over him. I don't how, it's possible, so few people both here and the masses, have perceived they have merely yanked the indexes a mountaintop-level higher, over trump. As either, leverage sabotage or preemptive detonation. Uh, they were rigging the thing to death for years under the 'previous guy' and we all sat here saying wtf it's f ing rigged. How the F, did that stop on Nov 9 2016. They still have control of it, uh, hello. They still had control of it, I don't know how the hell the context of the previous 5-6 trading years vanished from everyone's thought process. There's very little argument to be made that the increase since nov 16 is organic or 45 inspired. At the very least, it's decently, reasonably arguable that the indexes are fairly vulnerable, or what I would and have said, easily susceptible. To shock. or turn in narrative. And to end this - how that flies in the face of anyone saying trump's got the stock market going in amazing healthy burgeoning strength (of course also forgetting that's what happened in 07-08 and in general around peaks of obvious fake-growth or bubbles) Ps from a trumper and a solid one, learn to read focused analysis without deviating falsely

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BigCumulusClouds Dec 31, 2017 3:19 PM
The data must be flawed. MICHAEL Belkin says 600B flowed out.
King World News

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asteroids Dec 31, 2017 3:20 PM
Trillions of dollars printed up by the FED and given to the primary dealers has destroyed price discovery and any semblance of a fair market. There fixed it for yah.

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Endgame Napoleon asteroids Dec 31, 2017 3:32 PM
It’ll be weird if, in a few years, homebuyers in inflated markers who looked at ranch houses @ $1 million see the same houses for less than $200,000.

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Endgame Napoleon Endgame Napoleon Dec 31, 2017 3:35 PM
I meant “markets, not markers.”

Edit button.....
Do they make an edit button in PHP with an open source content-management system?

Or, is the lack of an edit button a disciplinary measure?

The new site is great except for that omission.

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SheHunter Endgame Napoleon Jan 1, 2018 12:58 AM
Hey Tyler. Why the fuck can we no longer edit? Or is it punishment for some of us being so fowl-mouthed?

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Bloody Fkn Muppet SheHunter Jan 1, 2018 1:25 AM
The website with editing functions costs $1 more, Tyler's trying to save cash as he's been trading based on articles in ZeroEdge.

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JRobby Endgame Napoleon Dec 31, 2017 4:29 PM
In a few years, real estate will have already crashed along with stocks, bonds, commodities...........................

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JibjeResearch JRobby Dec 31, 2017 4:35 PM
It will not crash as long as there are buyers.

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Consuelo Dec 31, 2017 3:25 PM




"...but to DataTrek's Nicholas Colas



How many different outlets does this guy work for...?

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ReturnOfDaMac Dec 31, 2017 3:28 PM
It's easy, companies buying back their own shares. Only the big boys can afford to borrow money and buy back stock, the exec's get to cash out their options, and since its only a large cap phenomenon the overall "market" goes up. Meanwhile, no investment, job market sucks, wages stagnate, and the majority of stocks get to suck hind tit.

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Endgame Napoleon ReturnOfDaMac Dec 31, 2017 3:37 PM
Ohhhhh.

Thanks for the explanation. Fits perfectly with the plan.....

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ReturnOfDaMac Endgame Napoleon Dec 31, 2017 4:05 PM
Don't forget to cash that dividend check! Squid sent me a juicy one last month.

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D.r. Funk ReturnOfDaMac Dec 31, 2017 5:37 PM
#1 the patterns in index movement dont coincide with a high influence coming from buybacks

2 buybacks have contributed but are a factor and at this level a sole-factor of zirp. zirp is going away

3 even if zirp remains in place where it is currently, it has just been artificial propping anyway. fake. fake--bullshit.

4 that fake bullshit is reflected in things like Shiller(Pe) which Solely show a massively-extended divergence/disparity/gap, between level and reality, price and reality

What an attitude. You are so complicit in the eventual inflection. Laughoutloud. The turning of the tide to reveal what's been underneath. Go eat a rock

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ReturnOfDaMac D.r. Funk Dec 31, 2017 7:13 PM
Ok Dr.Funk, I'll bite. PE's are crazy because company treasury's don't give a shit. Anyway, start here

https://www.forbes.com/sites/investo...the-gre…

But do your own fucking due diligence before you call me complicit (I just profit from shearing sheep, I don't get dirty fleecing 'em myself).

Keep searching and you'll find out how many hundreds of billions were looted from S&P 500 companies by execs' in buybacks in 2017 alone.

Try salt and pepper with your rocks, adds a little kick.

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MrBoompi Dec 31, 2017 3:54 PM
Yes, many damaging market selloffs have occurred over the years, but over time the market has tended to rise. What do you think happens when something rises from 2000 to 24,000 over the course of 100 years? How many reports were written during the last 100 years warning that the market was at all time highs? It's not so much the stock market as much as the money injection system inflating it.

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An Shrubbery MrBoompi Dec 31, 2017 9:49 PM
Yes, stock prices are high, but volumes are low. It's all this helicopter money sloshing around the globe, looking for a place to park and earn a decent return. It makes no sense to buy bonds at ZIRP or NIRP. As the ECB continues to crumble, prices may go even higher, as big money looks for a lifeboat.

The only money I have in the market is my retirement money, which is trapped. If I try to pull it out all at once, Uncle Sam takes half. Although Trump's tax break might ease the pain somewhat. Half of something now, might be better than half of nothing later...

The only other option is to roll over into FDIC insured CDs and try to ride it out. What to do, what to do...?

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Archive_file Dec 31, 2017 4:17 PM
Just a heads up from the underground:

I live in my van in San Francisco and have been delivering food to tech and financial companies for years.

Just an observation, but I think anyone interested in crypto needs to keep an eye on or invest in a crypto called “RaiBlocks (XRB).” It has the potential to be very disruptive.

It’s a “Dag-coin.” It isn’t mined. It makes transfers instantly, it is decentralized. Transferring money is FREE. It’s on a few exchanges. It has a great team behind it. It was worked on for a few years prior to its release. It is being whispered about here in town.

Put simply:

BTC = Gold

Ripple = for the banks.

RBX (RaiBlocks) = for the masses.

Now you’re in the know...



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JibjeResearch Dec 31, 2017 4:33 PM
Don't worry about the Stock Market, it's not your unless you have shares.

Count your money, where ever it is, that's the place that matters to you.

1. $1 Million in net wealth is like middle class.

2. $2 Millions in net wealth is somewhat rich.

3. You can not/should not get into bond, you'll end up losing regardless (Asian bond is ok if the return is greater than 4%, but still not the best).

4. In stock, you might have a chance if you pick the right one.

5. Don't get into passive Index stocks, you'll get nailed in the Assssss.

6. Have a business or renting property.

7. Get into cryptos now because this is a wealth generator. This is the best way to beat the majority of middle class and Elite class.

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Stormtrooper Dec 31, 2017 5:25 PM
Ha, ha, ha!!! Amstel Rothschild finally wins!! "I don't care who controls the government. I only want to control the money supply". Trillions of funny money later and his clan owns virtually all public companies thru their central banks. And, Americans still don't get it. Until, all of a sudden they will pull the plug and Americans will get it. Good and Hard!

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Stormtrooper Stormtrooper Dec 31, 2017 5:26 PM
Oh, and this new website format really does suck!

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francis scott … Dec 31, 2017 7:39 PM
TYLER, WHAT ABOUT 'FLOWBACKS?'

just asking

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yerfej Dec 31, 2017 8:19 PM
It is simple appreciation suction that is pulling prices higher without volume, as the fed accelerated the quantitative easing the prices had to head higher and this in turn created a vacuum effect that has remained in place to this day. Once the feds new quantitative impeding becomes mainstream revolumizing will commence.

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