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    Re: pictures

    Another butt squeezein,

    From those genius types who run this country.

    U no.

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    On Tuesday, the Army confirmed to Gizmodo that it issued the warning in light of alarming social-media posts flagged by the FBI from the “incel” — or “involuntarily celibate” — community of alienated men who feel they have been shunned by society and can’t get dates.

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    US Army warns about possible mass shootings by incels at ‘Joker’ screenings
    By Lia Eustachewich September 25, 2019 | 8:50am | Updated




    The Army issued a warning to its personnel about the possibility of crazed “incel” extremists carrying out mass shootings at upcoming screenings of “Joker,” according to a new report.

    Marked “For official use only,” the Sept. 18 e-mail advised service members planning to watch the movie in theaters to “identify two escape routes” and to “run, hide, fight” in the event of a shooting, Gizmodo reported.

    “Run if you can,” the message said. “If you’re stuck, hide (also known as ‘sheltering in place’), and stay quiet. If a shooter finds you, fight with whatever you can.”

    On Tuesday, the Army confirmed to Gizmodo that it issued the warning in light of alarming social-media posts flagged by the FBI from the “incel” — or “involuntarily celibate” — community of alienated men who feel they have been shunned by society and can’t get dates.


    The Army e-mail explained that incels “idolize the Joker character, the violent clown from the Batman series” — an angry loner who turns to violence after too much rejection.

    They also like “his depiction as a man who must pretend to be happy but eventually fights back against bullies,” the Army said.

    An Army spokesperson said the message was routine.

    “We want our workforce to be prepared and diligent on personal safety both inside the workplace and out,” the rep said.

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    In another memo on Monday, top officials of the Army’s Criminal Investigation Division said it received “credible” intelligence from law enforcement in Texas about “disturbing and very specific chatter” on the dark Web regarding “the targeting of an unknown movie theater during the release.”
    guns kill people,

    like spoons made rush limbaugh,

    fat ....

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    Re: pictures

    This posting is for educatein' porpoises only.

    The big cash payoff,

    Won't be found here ...

    Some apologies,

    as this was (over)done wit a Jersey accent, sorta ....

    That's Jersey, in a US , sorta way...


    Can't find the original post versoon


    LOVEMBER 2017
    HOW JARED KUSHNER IS DISMANTLING A FAMILY EMPIRE


    The somewhat allegorical tragedy about what happens when a small-town New Jersey scion tries to redeem his father’s reputation in a decade—and may set his family back generations as a result.

    BY RIC BasTard

    Jared Kushner and Donald Trump in a meeting at the White House in January.
    THE SILENT OBSERVER Jared Kushner and Donald Trump in a meeting at the White House in January.



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    There’s a primal scene. It takes place in neither green Eden, where the snake spoke sweetly, nor the master bedroom of your first house, the one by the railroad tracks, where, spying from a closet, you watched your parents in flagrante delicto, but at the Fontainebleau, on Miami Beach, where Sam Giancana talked Castro with the C.I.A., Jerry Lewis got into all kinds of mischief in The Bellboy, and Tony Montana scoped bikinis on the pool deck. If you’re a Jew of a certain vintage, the Fontainebleau means swank. It’s the fantasy showroom of the American Dream.

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    Passover, 2000. Jared Kushner’s father, Charlie, a New Jersey real-estate tycoon, had gathered at the Fontainebleau with extended family to recall the story of the exodus—the flight of the ancient Hebrews from Egypt, hard labor and plagues, the Golden Calf, the tablets broken, the spirit of the Lord always before them, a column of smoke in the daytime, a column of fire at night.


    Kushner, dapper with steel-gray hair, had turned up angry, mostly at his brother, Murray, the Ivy Leaguer, wise in everything but the street. Charlie had gone into business with his father in 1985. When the old man died, Charlie took over. He gave stakes in the business to his siblings, then built it into a behemoth. At the time of the Seder, the Kushner Companies were worth about a billion dollars. (Who’s pharaoh now?) He’d put up apartment buildings and commercial properties in Pennsylvania and New Jersey, engaging in all the behavior typical of big-time developers.

    Charlie was gutsy and took chances; Murray was cautious—that was the problem. “In 1999,” according to Gabriel Sherman, in New Yorkmagazine, where much of the reporting on the family feud comes from, “Murray backed out of Charlie’s bid to acquire Berkshire Realty, a firm with 24,000 apartments, which would have vaulted the Kushners into the first rank of privately held real-estate firms.” At the Seder, Charlie told Murray they shouldn’t work together anymore. It was Murray’s response—“If we can’t be partners, we can’t be brothers” —that set off the m?l?e. Murray’s wife, Lee, rose to her husband’s defense. Charlie fired back: Hey, Lee, do you think your son really got into Penn? I hate to break it to you, but it was me. I got him in.



    We’re out of here, said Lee.

    The most important observer of the feud was Charlie’s older son, Jared Kushner, who, at 19, was tall and handsome, though somewhat generic. You could imagine him slotted into any sort of life, but, as an heir of the tycoon, his future was planned. A main job for the son of a man like Charlie is being Charlie’s son.

    The Kushners assembled for another Fontainebleau Seder in 2001, minus Murray, Lee, and their children—that’s how families fall apart. Charlie was in an even uglier mood, according to Sherman. He’d come to believe his sister Esther and her husband, Billy Schulder, were siding with Murray. The tension was high even before Charlie thought he spotted Billy and his son Jacob whispering, laughing. Are they laughing at me? Charlie shouted down the table, over the shank bone and salt water that is the bitter tears of our people: “You’re so pious? Go on, Billy, and tell your kids how pious you are.”

    Everyone knew what Charlie meant—he’d discovered his brother-in-law was having an office affair a few years before.

    Esther begged: “Don’t say any more.”

    “You’re a fucking putz!” Charlie shouted at Billy.

    To Jared, his father was a good man embattled by free-riders, “siblings that he literally made wealthy for doing nothing.” It was just another battle at just another Seder—Jews at play—but would have consequences.

    We all live in the world created by that feud.


    Jared Kushner’s Grandma Rae hid with Jewish partisans in Poland during World War II—that’s where she met Joseph Kushner, a carpenter. When they reached New York, in 1949, they had as little as people can have—they’d lost their money and possessions, language, everything. Joseph worked construction in New Jersey, which was booming. When he’d saved money, he purchased and developed land with partners. He was one of several developers who came to be collectively known as the Holocaust Builders. By the time of his death, he’d built 4,000 apartments. That’s the dream. Start at zero, make a fortune. In the next generation, that very success would destroy the family.

    Joseph and Rae had four children—two girls, two boys. Murray was older and did better in school, but it was Charlie, the daredevil who loved risk, who went into business with the old man. In this way, Charlie became the Kushner that mattered—the story would run not through Murray but through Charlie, then raising his family in Livingston, New Jersey. He brought his children up as observant Jews, Modern Orthodox. There was Dara, Jared, Joshua, and Nicole. Dara is the low-profile Kushner. Nicole, now Nicole Kushner Meyer, is the Kushner who created a stir in China for seeming to offer “golden visas” in return for an investment in a Kushner tower in Jersey City. Joshua, who runs an investment firm and a health-insurance company, is the Kushner who dates the model Karlie Kloss. Jared, the older boy, is the Kushner who became the public face. He was a good son, attended religious schools, obeyed the Sabbath. Outside his Manhattan office, a book sat on a pedestal: Pirkei Avot, a compilation of Jewish sayings, ethical teachings. In other words, Jared Kushner is kosher of mind—but there is kosher, then kosher-style. Kosher means, if it’s trayf, you don’t eat it. Kosher-style means, if it’s trayf, you don’t eat it unless it’s something you really like a lot.

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    Charlie trained his children in business, too. Because there’s the wisdom of the Book, then the wisdom of the street. “My father never really believed in summer camp, so we’d come with him to the office,” Jared Kushner told Forbes. “We’d go look at jobs, work on construction sites. It taught us real work.”

    “Sundays, my friends would be at football games with their fathers,” Kushner told George Gurley in The Kingdom of New York: Knights, Knaves, Billionaires, and Beauties in the City of Big Shots, as Seen by The New York Observer. “I’d be in back of my dad’s car with my mini pair of construction boots, walking job sites.”

    Business, as practiced by big-time developers, means politics. The Kushner house was an occasional stop for Democratic politicians. Charlie gave a million dollars to the D.N.C. in 2002. Jared gave 60,000 of his own dollars, whatever that means. One night, after Hillary Clinton’s Senate victory, she showed up at the Kushners’ Jersey Shore house for Shabbat. Jared made his first serious public speech, in 2000, from a stage on the Kushner lawn. The street had been closed off, Secret Service swarmed. He was introducing presidential candidate Al Gore. Jared later said it was hard when the newspaper he owned, The New York Observer, endorsed Barack Obama—“because I really like Hillary a lot and respect her, and she’s as stand-up as they come as a person.”


    Once, when I was talking to the movie producer Jerry Weintraub about the importance of education, he cut me off, saying, “What, a diploma? You want a diploma from Harvard? Give me 24 hours. I’ll have a Harvard diploma with your name on it.”

    Left Jareds father Charles Kushner on his way to court in Newark 2004 Right 666 Fifth Avenue N.Y.C.
    FAMILY AFFAIR Left, Jared’s father, Charles Kushner (with his wife and Jared’s mother, Seryl), on his way to court in Newark, 2004; Right, 666 Fifth Avenue, N.Y.C.

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    In the book The Price of Admission, Daniel Golden uses Jared Kushner as an example of how colleges operate. Jared got whatever grades he got in high school, but it wasn’t Jared that mattered when his application went to Harvard. It was Charlie. “In 1998, when Jared was attending the Frisch School and starting to look at colleges, his father had pledged $2.5 million to Harvard, to be paid in annual installments of $250,000,” Golden writes.

    “There was no way anybody in the administrative office of the school thought he would on the merits get into Harvard,” a former official at the Frisch School told Golden. “His GPA did not warrant it, his SAT scores did not warrant it. We thought for sure, there was no way this was going to happen. Then, lo and behold, Jared was accepted. It was a little bit disappointing because there were at the time other kids we thought should really get in on the merits, and they did not.”

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    In this way, Kushner set up his son, put him on the inside lane, credentialed and connected. Charlie was telling the world something about himself—connections, clout. Any idiot can get a genius into Harvard. It takes a macher to get a middling white kid admitted.

    Jared entered Harvard in 1999. Classmates remember him as bland—one of those freshmen who turn up in a fancy button-down shirt and jeans, with a side part, carrying Crain’s New York Business. Some probably took his earnestness as a put-on, an ironic pose, but soon learned he was in fact what he seemed: a deadly serious scion, prince of a kingdom that would soon be in flames. According to Lizzie Widdicombe of The New Yorker,Jared called his father every day—that kind of kid—drove an expensive car, talked markets. Friday nights at Chabad or Hillel. Shomer Shabbos. He dabbled in real estate, getting money from his father and his father’s friends to buy property in Somerville, Massachusetts. “I figured, ‘Well, I know everything there is to know about real estate,’ ” he said in The Kingdom of New York. “ ‘I’ve been exposed to it all my life.’ Truth is, I didn’t know anything.” He did this in the way of a hobby, as another kid might work on the Lampoon, if that kid was dealing in millions. When Jared graduated, in 2003, he went on to get a joint business/law degree at N.Y.U.—Charlie had pledged $3 million to the school. His future seemed certain. But, as Kushner’s great-grandparents would’ve said, kicking it in the shtetl, Der mentsh trakht un Got lakht. Man plans, God laughs.


    Jared Kushner is six feet three and thin—rangy if you like him, reedy if you don’t. He has dark eyes and brown hair, a broad smile, and a facial expression, captured in newspapers, that goes from surprised to amused to flat. Something about him remains opaque, unknowable. Something held in reserve. He’s a beautiful new house made to look old, a beautiful new house with fogged windows. You lean close and stare inside and still see nothing. The rooms may be filled with antique furniture. Or maybe it’s Ikea. Or maybe the house is empty. We have facts and figures—36 years old, multi-millionaire—yet he remains a mystery. What’s he really want? What’s he really like? He’s either canny and shrewd, dumb and lucky, or dumb and unlucky. He’s either in the engine room or just along for the ride. Trump has put him in charge of everything—Middle East peace, opioid crisis—yet he seemingly knows nothing. He was in the meeting but only for a few minutes. He received the e-mail but did not read the chain.


    The Red Bull Inn sat on a nondescript stretch of Route 22 in Bridgewater, New Jersey. It was a motor court, with a bull painted on the side. Forty-five miles from the Holland Tunnel this way, 120 miles from Atlantic City that. Walking distance from a Houlihan’s. It was the sort of place where you get a room with two queens, though you only need one, shut the drapes, crank the A/C to max, and lie in the dark at midday, staring at the ceiling, listening to the traffic. You can reconsider your entire life in such a place, take a nap, or do something so wrong it changes not just your future but that of everyone you love.


    A Kushner family friend told New York’s Sherman: “[Charlie] loved being the Don Corleone of the community. He loved that when he walks into a synagogue the rabbis run over to him. Charlie saw himself as the Jewish Kennedy.”

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    Charlie was still angry when he got back from the Fontainebleau—at his brother, sister, brother-in-law, the world. He had everything yet was embittered, embattled. The closer you get to what you want, the farther away it seems. That’s the rub. He was now being sued by his brother, Murray, accused of mismanagement. In 2002, he was also sued by a former Kushner Companies accountant named Bob Yontef, who had made allegations about all those political contributions—Yontef said they had been made with company money. It was a second Yontef lawsuit, filed in federal court in 2003, that got the attention of New Jersey U.S. attorney Chris Christie, a Republican with ambitions of his own. Christie opened an investigation into Yontef’s claims, which meant the F.B.I. poking around. Charlie was convinced his sister Esther and brother-in-law Billy were cooperating. Charlie wanted revenge—wanted to make his sister feel as bad as he did.

    From New Jersey to 666 Fifth Avenue. No Manhattan position, no Ivanka. No Ivanka, no Air Force One.

    He enlisted the help of a private detective, whom you could hire in the way that, in Chinatown, the redhead hired Jake Gittes to skunk the works. The detective was named Tommy. Though at first reluctant, he eventually agreed to help. Tommy reserved adjoining rooms at the Red Bull Inn, hid a video camera in an alarm clock—aimed at the bed—then handed the keys to a girl Charlie had hired, a prostitute who approached Esther’s husband, Billy, at the Time to Eat Diner. She said her car had broken down. Billy gave her a ride back to the motel. She asked him inside. He refused but took her number. They met the next day. Tommy handed Charlie the videotape soon after. Charlie waited a few months before passing it on to his sister. She then did something Charlie did not count on—called the feds. The private detective and prostitute ended up in the U.S. attorney’s office, spilling. Now, instead of just a case of political malfeasance, you had a scandal made for the New York tabloids. Charlie Kushner pleaded guilty to 18 felony counts—tax fraud, election violations, witness tampering. Chris Christie described Kushner’s crimes as crimes of “greed, power, and excess.”

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    In a letter to his sister—written with “shattered heart and tears in my eyes” —Charlie confessed. “What I did as an act of revenge was wrong in every way,” he wrote. “I only ask that you forgive me for resorting to such despicable behavior, which is disgraceful. I was wrong and I committed a terrible sin. How did I let hatred invade my heart and guide my actions?”

    Charlie was sentenced to two years in a federal penitentiary. He lost his reputation, status, freedom—everything. When the story hit the papers, students at the Joseph Kushner Hebrew Academy—named for the patriarch—covered the family name on their uniforms with black tape.


    The Montgomery Federal Prison Camp, in Alabama, is minimum-security, the sort of place people call Club Fed. It sprawls like a college campus and holds just under 900 inmates. Former Enron C.E.O. Jeffrey Skilling served time there, as did Jesse Jackson Jr. and Watergate conspirators Chuck Colson and John Mitchell. Jared visited his father every week. In the great room, families and children around, men in prison garb. What did they talk about? In The Godfather, after turning the business over to his son, Don Corleone says, “So, Barzini will move against you first. He’ll set up a meeting with someone you absolutely trust, guaranteeing your safety. And at that meeting you’ll be assassinated.” In the book of Kings, King David tells his son Solomon, “I go the way of all the earth; be thou strong, therefore, and show thyself a man.” Then, “Thou knowest also what Joab the son of Zeruiah did to me, and what he did to the two captains of the hosts of Israel. . . . Do therefore according to thy wisdom, and let not his hoar head go down to the grave in peace.”

    Charlie spent around 18 months in prison, then was transferred to a halfway house in Newark. Jews are unsure of the form and intentions of God. Maybe there is an afterlife, maybe not. Maybe there is hope, maybe not. Judgment is reserved for the Almighty. “I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious,” God tells Moses in Exodus. “And will show mercy on whom I will show mercy.” The master plan and purpose remain hidden—to everyone but Charlie. “I believe that God and my parents in heaven forgive me for what I did, which was wrong,” he told The Real Deal, a real-estate trade publication. “I don’t believe God and my parents will ever forgive my brother and sister for instigating a criminal investigation and being cheerleaders for the government and putting their brother in jail because of jealousy, hatred and spite.”

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    In short, Charlie goes to heaven; the rest go to hell.

    Observer owner Jared Kushner in his New York office 2008.
    Observer owner Jared Kushner in his New York office, 2008.


    The Kushner Companies, powerful as it became, remained provincial. It grew and lived in New Jersey, among the sprawl, the subdivisions, factories, and swamps. Forced to take command of that company, Jared, at age 24, was like a kid who has been handed the keys to his father’s Porsche. What will a young man do in such a situation?

    Drive to the city.


    The New York Observer was a kind of magic kingdom. Founded by Arthur Carter in 1987, it became a tribune for a rarefied segment of Manhattan, with its spotlight on the bigwigs of media and publishing, real estate, advertising. It was a font, a source of sensibility and talent, small but mighty—never really read by more than 50,000, say, but those 50,000 deciding whom you would love and whom you would mock. “The Observer couldn’t have been spawned a minute earlier than it was,” Observer editor Peter Kaplan wrote in The Kingdom of New York. “The rise of the money culture created a lovely narcissism, which made the 1990s the screwball decade it became.” Graydon Carter, no relation to Arthur, served as its editor in chief, followed by Susan Morrison, then Kaplan. I worked there for about a year. It got me going. Not just the experience but how it trained you to look at the city. It was about being wised-up, smart—knowing the guy but also the guy behind the guy and the guy behind that guy. It fed on just the sort of scandals that engulfed the Kushners. Because a story like that has everything.

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    It’s unclear if Jared Kushner ever really read the Observer before he bought it. He first noticed the paper while waiting for the Boston shuttle at La Guardia, his attention caught not by the articles or reviews but by a list: New York’s power Seders. He later told Gabriel Sherman he considered reading the paper—something an owner probably should do—to be unpleasant homework, a chore. “The articles were way too long,” Kushner told Gurley. “It wasn’t visually stimulating, and I thought that people today are more responsive to shorter, easier pieces like they get on the Internet. When you want to do something long, deliberately do that, but for the most part, stay within the mold and give the reader what they are looking for with minimum effort. Reading shouldn’t be hard.”

    What probably made the Observer attractive as an investment was the price. Ten million dollars! For a newspaper in New York! What a cheap way to move into the city, change the meaning of Kushner from private dick and Jersey motel to pink broadsheet. Arthur Carter, who was losing about $2 million a year on the paper, told Kushner it wasn’t really for sale. After all, who was Jared Kushner? A 25-year-old N.Y.U. grad student, an intern at private-equity firm Square Mile Capital, a child. Jared persisted; Carter relented. Jared made his pitch in Carter’s apartment, explained how he intended not merely to keep the Observergoing but to make it profitable. “I’d brought Clive Cummis, one of my father’s lawyers, who is well respected and wears a bow tie and has gray hair,” Kushner says in The Kingdom of New York. “I figured he’d give me some sense of credibility with Arthur. We sat down, and I put down on the table a check with the full purchase price and a signed contract, and I said, ‘Listen, I’m ready to go.’ ”

    Owning the Observer made Jared interesting, powerful, a figure of fascination—I don’t know what it is, but something about you has changed. He was written up in society and gossip columns, discussed in a giggly tone as if he were a Kennedy or a member of a boy band, as if he had that kind of hair that covers one eye. In a single move—no one is sure if he planned it this way—Kushner had gotten into the big action. He found himself in a new crowd, at a new kind of party. Men’s Vogue.Vanity Fair. He stood in back, raising a glass, greeting men and women who dominated the dream life of the city. Bloomberg, Giuliani, Trump. Rupert Murdoch took the young publisher under his wing, becoming a kind of adviser. In this way, Jared Kushner swam into a previously unreachable stratum, a strange sea filled with exotic creatures, moguls, magnates, models. Not long after the purchase, he started dating Ivanka. They met at a business lunch. It became serious—because it made sense. Young, good-looking people, offspring of madly driven fathers, inheritors of gaudy real-estate traditions. It was an old story. A debased nobleman courting the daughter of a wealthy factory owner—each gives, each gets. He brings money, hustle. She brings beauty and the famous name, nothing in old America but aristocratic in the age of reality TV. Jared met the patriarch, got the look-over. Imagine it. Kushner and Trump in the morning of a great partnership, Table 1 at Trump Grill, regarding each other like rat and terrier in one of the pits of the old Five Points.

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    Religion was the only obstacle. In earlier times, it would’ve been the Protestants who could not countenance the Jew. (And vice versa.) Now it was mainly the Jews—not just Jared but his parents—who resisted the intermarriage, the shattering of tradition. At some point—monumental days for America; your father and mother almost split before you were born—Jared and Ivanka took a break. According to The New Yorker, Wendi Deng, then Rupert Murdoch’s wife, deputized herself to put the train back on the rails. (Some people just love love.) She called Jared. “You’re working so hard. Come with Rupert and me on the boat for the weekend.” When Jared arrived, Ivanka was already there. Jared gave Ivanka the ring soon after—a 5.22-carat, cushion-cut diamond set by Ivanka Trump Fine Jewelry.

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    Ivanka, who agreed to convert, studied Torah with Haskel Lookstein, then leader of Congregation Kehilath Jeshurun, on the Upper East Side, capo di tutti capi of Modern Orthodox New York rabbis. She sat “before a three-judge religious panel known as a beth din, and [took] a trip to a mikvah, the ritual bath,” The New Yorker reported. She went down as Ivanka, goyish princess, daughter of Trump Tower and the Trump National Golf Club, duchess of Palm Beach and Mar-a-Lago, mistress of openings and golf courses, but came up as Yael—Ivanka’s Hebrew name; it means ibex, a type of mountain goat—future mother of the president’s three Jewish grandchildren. The wedding was held in Bedminster, less than 10 miles from the Red Bull Inn.


    Did Jared Kushner ruin the Observer? Did he run it into the ground? Did he extract the sweet elixir, a bee sucking nectar, leaving the flower itself to wither?

    To be fair, it’s not been a great time for print. Retrenchment, collapse. The Observer was losing millions when Kushner bought it—it seems unfair to expect him to succeed where so many media veterans have failed.

    And yet.

    His tenure started on a sanguine note. Peter Kaplan looked at Kushner the way a lot of people later looked at Trump—as an empty vessel, something he could re-purpose for good. “His 25-ness is a huge asset,” Kaplan told The New York Times when the sale was announced. “He is not weighed down by the debris of conventional wisdom.”

    That moment did not last—it was all front anyway. In addition to the nice things said in public, Kaplan shared other sentiments with colleagues. This was done in a melancholy way, in the nature of “I have seen what’s coming, and don’t like it.”

    In other words, not only did Kushner have money, he had ideas—proclivities, tastes. Less than a year after he took over, he began agitating. He did not seem to like the paper, as if he had not known what he was buying. He was like a man who does not like baseball realizing he owns a baseball team. What’s he gonna do?

    The New York Observer was a broadsheet—that’s part of what made it unusual. Broadsheet means New York Times, Wall Street Journal. These tend to be stately and serious, just the opposite of tabloid, which is blood and gossip, New York Post. The Observer was a hybrid—tabloid heart, broadsheet brain. A funny man in a serious mood, a serious man with a sense of humor. A goofball in a tux is dangerous. Kushner either did not get this or did not care. Millennials have a thing about broadsheets. They’ve grown up reading on phones, that smooth path of entry. They can’t stand unwieldiness—following a piece from front page to jump, and all that folding, and the ink stains your fingers.

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    In 2007, Kushner redesigned the Observer, took it tabloid. The first issue hit the streets in February. There are pictures of Kushner handing out copies outside Grand Central—he wears an overcoat, is red-cheeked and smiling, but looks cold. Kaplan tried to put the best face on it, but, for a lot of us, the moment the paper went tabloid, The New York Observer ceased to exist.

    Things got worse. The paper stopped reviewing books, then quit high culture altogether. Because . . . boring! In-depth articles gave way to pithy pieces; pithy pieces gave way to lists—“If You Want to Radically Change Your Life, You Need to Take This First Step” —which gave way to listicles, graphics. We watched that cool, gimlet-eyed paper turn into Internet, bubbles melting into bubbles. Though Kushner has come to mean Trump, who is the oldest person the world has ever known, he is in fact a pure product of this moment, as modern as we get. He has climbed out of the World Wide Web, created by the medium that went on to remake the culture. Long stories became short because who can stare at one object for that length of time? You have to check Twitter and Instagram and e-mail and texts, and while checking all that you lose your place and end up reading the same sentence three times, and what’s this story about anyway? The Observer, like a lot of papers, remade itself from stately old town into Potemkin village. The buildings look colorful and grand, but as soon as you step through the door, you’re back outside. There is no interior to any of them, no back.

    Peter Kaplan resigned in 2009, plunging the staff into blue gloom. “Kaplan is a classy guy, but he’s old-school,” Kushner told staff, as reported in New York magazine. “If we were doing our jobs right, Gawker wouldn’t have a reason to exist.” After that, Kushner was like Steinbrenner in the 1980s, running through editor after editor: Tom McGeveran, Kyle Pope, Elizabeth Spiers, Ken Kurson. “When I worked for him, I didn’t think he had a realistic view of his own capabilities,” Spiers wrote in The Washington Post, “since, like his father-in-law, he seemed to view his wealth and its concomitant accoutrements as rewards for his personal success in business, and not something he would have had in any case. To me, he appeared to view his position and net worth as the products of an essentially meritocratic process.”

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    In March 2013, Observer staff and alumni gathered in the Pool Room of the Four Seasons restaurant to celebrate the paper’s 25th anniversary. A Russian novelist would open with the arrival of each guest. Bloomberg with his fleet of town cars. Ivanka in a plain black dress. Donald in a dark suit with a placid blue tie—you read his tie as you read a mood ring. Blue is good. Jamie Tisch and Wendi Deng Murdoch. Katie Couric. Cory Booker. Harvey Weinstein. Spike Lee in a green cap and big coat with shiny sleeves. Police Commissioner Ray Kelly, who, standing at the carving board, says, “Just some meatballs.” (Vogue covered the party in great detail on its Web site.) Peter Kaplan looked skinny, diminished. He’d come to celebrate the paper—his life’s work—but was not well. He would die of cancer the following November at age 59.

    Mayor Bloomberg stood to speak. Taking the mic, he smiled and said, “When I first heard about this 25th-birthday party I thought, Wow, Jared, you’re growing up so fast! . . . I can’t wait to see what your father-in-law is going to tweet about tonight.”

    There was birthday cake and sparklers. When you read the words Jared said to the crowd, they do not seem terrible, but Observer hands were offended, hurt.

    Kushner did not give proper credit to Kaplan—that was the general sentiment. He spoke of the paper as if it had been small and struggling before he—Kushner—saved it, whereas in fact, these same people will tell you, the paper began to spiral soon after Jared took over.

    The Observer stopped publishing a print edition in November 2016. It continues on as a Web site, deadheading down a ghost road. At this writing, the home page carries the following stories: “Five Proven Ways to Make a Living Traveling the World” ; “When the Sun Goes Dark: Five Questions Answered About the Solar Eclipse” ; “True Love Is Dead as Chris Pratt and Anna Faris Announce Separation.”


    The 41-story office tower on Fifth Avenue between 52nd and 53rd Streets in Manhattan was built in 1957. Because the address is 666 Fifth, the penthouse restaurant was named Top of the Sixes. Sophistication spiked with menace. In Revelation, 666 is identified as the Number of the Beast. (“Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.”) The Kushner Companies purchased the building in January 2007, paying $1.8 billion, a record in Manhattan. The Kushners put up $500 million and borrowed the rest from banks and partner Vornado Realty Trust, a publicly traded company run by Steve Roth. This meant a $1.2 billion mortgage—a super jumbo—with interest-only payments for the first several years. It was considered a vast overpayment, one of the most puzzling deals ever made in New York, even before the market crashed. When it did, the rents at 666, meant to cover interest payments and building costs, plummeted or else vanished. To this day, the tower is 30 percent vacant.

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    Just like that, 666 was underwater, the asset worth far less than the loan. The Kushner company lost perhaps 10 million a year on the building—it’s not animate, yet it bleeds. Kushner sold pieces of the tower to cover the losses—this bit to the Carlyle Group, that bit to Vornado. “But the bleeding continued,” Observer alum Charles Bagli wrote in the Times. “[In 2009], with the tower’s reserve funds nearly exhausted and the owner losing as much as $30 million, the mortgage holder appointed a ‘special servicer’ to oversee 666 Fifth Avenue. Such a company manages a property loan when the borrower is in danger of falling into default.”

    The company, under the leadership of Jared’s father and sister Nicole—Jared sold his stake to a family trust when he went to work in Washington—is in desperate need of a new investor, a fat cat who will refinance and infuse capital. The big play is a teardown: raise billions, then replace the existing structure with a 1,400-foot tower dreamed up by the late architect Zaha Hadid: gleaming glass, condos, mall. For a time, it seemed the Kushner company would enlist Chinese financial conglomerate Anbang in the project, but Anbang, with its tangled network of shell companies, is closely tied to Beijing’s elite. That plus Trump drew tremendous scrutiny. The deal fell apart last March, leaving the Kushners to scramble for new partners. The mortgage comes due on 666 in less than two years. If the Kushners don’t figure out something, they could lose their investment. Simply put, this Spruce Goose of a deal must be considered among the worst in the history of Manhattan real estate.

    Think about it: before entering the White House, Jared had made just two significant business plays—both less than stellar. He bought the Observer a moment before the newspaper industry collapsed. He bought 666 Fifth a moment before the real-estate bubble burst. Was this just a case of a neophyte reaching for a shiny object, or was there something else in play? Maybe Charlie Kushner’s experience taught Jared there is something more important than balance sheets. Charlie had all the money in the world and still went to prison. By acquiring 666, Jared gave up capital but acquired status, a place in the city. From New Jersey to 666 Fifth Avenue. No Manhattan position, no Ivanka. No Ivanka, no Air Force One.


    I called several current and former Observer employees and asked them to be interviewed for this story. Just about all agreed to talk, but none would talk on the record. A couple of people insisted that our communication move to encoded app. I asked a friend why everyone seemed so spooked. “People are freaked about Trump,” he said. “Trump is all about loyalty and is vindictive; Jared is his de facto favorite son; the Kushners are also all about loyalty . . . so people are also freaked about Jared. They project a lot onto him. He’s like the heir apparent in a Mob family that happens to run the whole country. So there’s the big question: Is he Sonny or is he Michael?”

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    There was a sign on the Henry Hudson Parkway, astride a row of Trump towers. It was meant to thank Donald for his donation, paid to maintain this stretch of road, but someone had tinkered with the letters. Instead of thanking Donald Trump it thanked Donald Rump.


    Jared Kushner showed no particular interest in working for the campaign, nor was he closer to his father-in-law than an average young husband. He’d been a lifelong Democrat and would’ve supported Hillary in normal circumstances. This changed on November 9, 2015, a Monday, when Donald took Jared to a political event in Springfield, Illinois. You remember those rallies: the angry crowds, the private plane, TRUMP in huge letters on the side. “The candidate entered to the music of Twisted Sister: ‘We’re not going to take it,’ ” Time reported.

    Jared going to that rally is a fun-house version of Siddhartha Gautama, the cosseted prince who would become Buddha, leaving the palace for the first time. He’d never seen an old, poor, or sick person before. It was like that with Jared. He was overwhelmed by this trip into the hinterland—by the passion of the crowd, anger and need, the connection with Trump. “People really saw hope in his message,” Kushner said in a 2016 Forbes interview. “They wanted the things that wouldn’t have been obvious to a lot of people I would meet in the New York media world, the Upper East Side, or at Robin Hood [Foundation] dinners.”

    As Trump’s jet winged east, the enlightened prince buzzed with excitement. He’d gone out comatose but come back awake. He believed in his father-in-law now, believed he could and should win. He believed he’d seen something hardly ever seen by people in the urban centers. While you’d been at a cocktail party, he’d been exploring the river bottom. “As Kushner has told it, the young scion glimpsed a world outside his own Upper East Side bubble, a country roiled by grievance and frustration, looking for the champion Trump was eager to become,” Time explained.


    Jared ran the Trump campaign’s Internet operation. Some say that his work was crucial to victory—the boy-genius thesis. Others say Kushner was essentially ballast. “We’re talking about a guy who isn’t particularly bright or hard-working, doesn’t actually know anything,” Harleen Kahlon, the digital maven who worked for Kushner at the Observer, wrote on Facebook. She said he “has bought his way into everything ever (with money he got from his criminal father)” and that he is “deeply insecure and obsessed with fame (you don’t buy the N.Y.O., marry Ivanka Trump, or constantly talk about the phone calls you get from celebrities if it’s in your nature to ‘shun the spotlight’).” Kushner, she concluded, is “basically a shithead.”


    Trump’s language and that of his followers was now and then tainted by anti-Semitism—that’s what some believed. All the talk of evil bankers and urban elites, the tweet that pictured a pile of money beneath a Jewish star. People protested because people were afraid. Kushner’s participation was especially galling. The hovering presence of this Orthodox Jew seemed to stamp this unholy operation “Kosher.”

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    On July 5, 2016, Kushner was called out in his own newspaper—“An Open Letter to Jared Kushner, from One of Your Jewish Employees” —by a writer named Dana Schwartz. “You went to Harvard, and hold two graduate degrees,” she wrote. “Please do not condescend to myo Be and pretend you don’t understand the imagery of a six-sided star when juxtaposed with money and accusations of financial dishonesty. I’m asking you, not as a ‘gotcha’ journalist or as a liberal but as a human being: how do you allow this? Because, Mr. Kushner, you are allowing this. Your father-in-law’s repeated accidental winks to the white supremacist community is perhaps a savvy political strategy if the neo-Nazis are considered a sizable voting block—I confess, I haven’t done my research on that front. But when you stand silent and smiling in the background, his Jewish son-in-law, you’re giving his most hateful supporters tacit approval.”

    “My father-in-law is not an anti-Semite,” Kushner responded the next day in the Observer. “It’s that simple, really. Donald Trump is not anti-Semitic and he’s not a racist. Despite the best efforts of his political opponents and a large swath of the media to hold Donald Trump accountable for the utterances of even the most fringe of his supporters—a standard to which no other candidate is ever held—the worst that his detractors can fairly say about him is that he has been careless in retweeting imagery that can be interpreted as offensive. . . . This is not idle philosophy to me. I am the grandson of Holocaust survivors. On December 7, 1941—Pearl Harbor Day—the Nazis surrounded the ghetto of Novogroduk, and sorted the residents into two lines: those selected to die were put on the right; those who would live were put on the left. My grandmother’s sister, Esther, raced into a building to hide. A boy who had seen her running dragged her out and she was one of about 5100 Jews to be killed during this first slaughter of the Jews in Novogroduk. . . . It doesn’t take a ton of courage to join a mob. It’s actually the easiest thing to do. What’s a little harder is to weigh carefully a person’s actions over the course of a long and exceptionally distinguished career. The best lesson I have learned from watching this election from the front row is that we are all better off when we challenge what we believe to be truths and seek the people who disagree with us to try and understand their point of view.”


    Peter Beinart, former editor of The New Republic and author of The Crisis of Zionism, went after Kushner in the spirit of the Passover Seder. “Slavery . . . was meant to ensure that Jews would remember powerlessness once they gained power,” Beinart wrote in The Forward,perhaps the most prominent Jewish publication in the country. “Jared Kushner is what happens when that memory fails.” He suggested that Kushner’s alma mater the Frisch School “conduct the kind of after-action report that the military conducts when its operations go awry. Every synagogue where Kushner prayed regularly should ask itself whether it bears some of the blame for having failed to instill in him the obligations of Jewish memory. Even if it is too late to influence Kushner, Modern Orthodox leaders still can work to ensure that they do not produce more like him in the years to come.”


    Jared Kushner moved into the White House shortly after the inauguration, landing one of the best staff offices in the West Wing. Previously occupied by Obama advisers David Axelrod and David Plouffe, it’s just feet from the Oval Office.

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    According to The Wall Street Journal, members of Trump’s legal team recently suggested Kushner give up that choice office and return to private life. Because, of all the inner-circle advisers, Jared had taken the most meetings and seemingly had the most entanglements with all varieties of Russian. Also at issue “was Mr. Kushner’s initial omission of any contacts with foreign officials from the form required to obtain a security clearance,” the article explained. “[Kushner] later updated the form several times to include what he has said were more than 100 contacts with foreign officials.” A statement was drafted to spin Kushner’s would-be resignation—it went that far, according to the Journal. It must remain in some executive-branch file, a suggestion of the future that did not happen but may happen still. The statement expressed regret for a political eco-system so poisonous it can make even a naive sit-down with some helpful Russians seem sinister. Of course, anyone who has studied Trump knows he’d never send Kushner into the outer dark. It’s hard enough to dump a golf pro. How do you exile a son-in-law?

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    Jared Kushner’s life can be seen as a lark, an inheritance, a goof. Or it can be seen more grandly as an attempt to get back what was lost, to undo the series of disasters set in train at the Fontainebleau. Charlie went to prison. Jared might be in trouble of his own. He has been named as a person of interest in the Russia investigation. His father lost everything. In three moves, Jared got everything back. In three more, he could lose it all again. No one knows where it will end.

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    Throwing people in jail on drug charges? That?s Bakersfield?s idea to fight homelessness
    Kern County Sheriff Donny Youngblood
    Kern County Sheriff Donny Youngblood wants to use jail beds for homeless people to alleviate the growing crisis in Bakersfield.





    BAKERSFIELD ? In the face of an ever-growing homelessness crisis, cities across California have been searching for solutions, from adding shelters and affordable housing to improving mental health and substance abuse services.
    But in Bakersfield, officials are considering a more radical approach: They want to put homeless people in jail for misdemeanor drug offenses and potentially for trespassing.

    The tactic would fly in the face of criminal justice reform over the last decade in California, as the state has leaned away from incarceration for low-level, nonviolent drug crimes. It also would counter mainstream thinking on preventing homelessness and addressing the reality of it.

    The plan, which is being spearheaded by Kern County Sheriff Donny Youngblood and Kern County Dist. Atty. Cynthia Zimmer, remains in its early stages. But it has widespread support from the corridors of power in Bakersfield and Kern County.


    To become reality, the pilot program will need approval from the Bakersfield City Council for the appropriation of funds, but it won?t require any official changes in policy. Although the county operates the jails and courts, a substantial portion of the money for the proposal is likely to come from the city.

    The lack of opposition to trying to use the criminal justice system to deal with homelessness speaks to the political climate in this part of the Central Valley.

    ?Obviously, it?s a more conservative approach,? Youngblood said, describing Kern as ?the last large conservative county, probably, in the state of California.?

    Homelessness is not a new problem in Bakersfield, the seat of Kern County, but it has surged dramatically in recent years. The city?s 2019 point-in-time count, which was conducted in January, recorded a 108% increase in unsheltered homeless people compared with the prior year.


    Vandalism and property damage, which law enforcement and residents associate with the homeless population, have become major issues, particularly downtown.

    ?The pressure from the public is enormous,? Youngblood said. ?When I say that the people in San Francisco and Los Angeles are fed up and they care about this issue, it?s 10 times that in my county.?

    Youngblood and Zimmer stressed that the homeless people who would receive jail sentences would be repeat offenders. The focus would be on jailing those charged with misdemeanors for heroin and methamphetamine possession and use, but Zimmer said she would also like to see trespassing charges included.

    It?s unclear how arresting people for trespassing would work within the confines of current law. A number of court rulings and settlements prohibit law enforcement from arresting or otherwise punishing homeless people for sleeping on public property when there aren?t enough shelter beds. But Zimmer said she intends to work to develop a policy that is in line with those cases.


    The sheriff said he fears that if something isn?t done, more people will start trying to take matters into their own hands.

    ?We already have some people that go out and try and move people when they don?t have the authority to do that. And that can be dangerous,? he said.

    ?Sound of something better?
    Bakersfield is having a moment.




    The Central Valley city topped the National Assn. of Realtors? recent list of the most popular housing markets for millennials, sparking a spate of good press.

    This month, the city unveiled a new logo and slogan: ?The sound of something better.? It references the iconic country music genre known as the Bakersfield sound and what draws many here ? the idea of a better life, where what might have been out of reach in L.A. or San Francisco is attainable.

    This is a place where the average rent for an apartment is $1,016 and you?re likely to know your neighbors. An increasing number of downtown restaurants celebrate the agricultural bounty of the surrounding Central Valley with farm-to-table fare that?s marketed as such.

    But while rents may be comparatively low, the median household income in Bakersfield is also substantially lower than that of the state as a whole. In 2017, the most recent year for which census data are available, Bakersfield?s median household income was $57,105 ? $14,700 lower than the statewide median of $71,805. And there is increasing competition for a limited number of affordable housing units: The Bakersfield Californian recently reported that the city?s multifamily residential vacancy rate fell from 4% to 2% over the last two years.

    ?As we continue to write our city?s new narrative, we must move quickly to find solutions for those experiencing homelessness, elevate the quality of life for all people, and improve public safety,? Bakersfield Mayor Karen Goh said via email.

    In November 2018, local voters approved Measure N, a 1-cent sales tax focused on enhancing public safety and reducing homelessness. A homelessness crisis was officially declared by the City Council a day after the measure passed.

    Measure N, which is expected to provide about $58 million annually in new funding, went into effect in April.

    Both of the city?s existing shelters ? the Mission at Kern County and the Bakersfield Homeless Center ? are at capacity. Bakersfield is working to add 40 beds to each as well as construct a new ?low-barrier? shelter to accept homeless people regardless of their sobriety. But all of that will take time, and the planned low-barrier shelter does not yet have a location. No one seems to want it nearby.

    ?Put some of these people in jail?
    In the meantime, there are plenty of beds ? about 600 ? at the Kern County jail complex, or ?Lerdo,? as it?s commonly known. The effort would begin with a now-empty ?mega-barracks? that could house roughly 120 individuals.



    Using the empty beds wouldn?t require any new laws or sentencing guidelines to go into effect. Rather, Youngblood wants to use existing rules, but for it to work, judges would have to cooperate.

    Proposition 47, a ballot initiative passed by California voters in November 2014, reclassified certain nonserious, nonviolent crimes from felonies to misdemeanors, meaning they no longer carried state prison time. But many low-level theft and drug misdemeanors can still carry a potential sentence of up to one year behind bars. It?s just that those sentencing maximums aren?t typically followed, and misdemeanor drug crimes rarely result in jail time.

    Youngblood underscored that in his view, Proposition 47 had taken away his department?s ability to provide drug treatment to individuals while incarcerated.

    ?This really isn?t about locking people up because they have a drug problem,? he said. ?It?s about keeping them incarcerated so that they can receive treatment for whatever their affliction is.?

    Eve Garrow, a homelessness policy analyst with the American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California, said there?s no evidence that substance abuse treatment during incarceration is more effective, or as effective, as community-based treatment. The ACLU recommends community-based treatment with a heavy emphasis on diversion ?because all of the research shows that this is a much more effective and humane way to help people improve their health and mental health and get back to their lives,? Garrow said.

    Numerous studies also have shown that not all homeless people have a substance abuse problem.

    But Youngblood admitted the proposal isn?t just about drug treatment. It?s also about quality of life for residents. The district attorney agreed.

    ?I think people have been hesitant to say these kinds of things for a while, even people in law enforcement,? Zimmer said. ?Because the transient population, it?s just so sad and it?s so pitiful and you sound like you?re so mean.? But, she continued, ?to be safe, we?ve got to put some of these people in jail.?

    Zimmer was careful to distinguish between homeless people who are down on their luck and drug addicts and criminals. She believes that the homeless population in Bakersfield is overwhelmingly composed of the latter categories and that the city differs from other California cities in this respect because it still has affordable housing.

    She estimated that 80% of the local homeless population is severely addicted to drugs.

    ?Some people have severe mental health issues, but most are drug addicts,? she said.

    The latest point-in-time count of homeless people in Kern County found that 51% of those surveyed reported a substance abuse issue.

    The idea that criminal justice reform efforts are responsible for the homelessness crisis might be considered fringe in other parts of California, but it?s common in Bakersfield, voiced by civic leaders on down to business owners speaking at City Council meetings.

    So much so that a slide in a city-prepared PowerPoint presentation titled ?The Face of Homelessness in 2019? juxtaposed demographic data from the point-in-time count with bullet points of changes in California law ? including Assembly Bill 109, commonly known as realignment, and Proposition 47 ? on the same page.

    Drew Soderborg, a policy analyst in the California Legislative Analyst?s Office, noted that Kern County?s homeless population did not rise in a straight line after the passage of Proposition 47 in 2014. Looking at yearly point-in-time data, the county?s homeless population actually fell slightly from 2014 to 2015 before spiking in 2016, then staying well below that high during 2017 and 2018.

    ?The size of the homeless population is going to be impacted by numerous variables, so it?s hard to know how much Prop. 47 affected it,? Soderborg said.

    Josth Stenner, a community organizer with the grass-roots nonprofit Faith in the Valley, said Bakersfield has a ?tendency of kind of picking the scapegoat of the year. Last year, immigrants were causing all of our problems. This year, it?s the homeless.

    ?But in reality, it?s so much more nuanced, and so much more of a confluence of all of the different things that are wrong with the way that we structure our economy, the way that we view our responsibility as citizens to take care of each other,? he said.

    Next steps in the plan
    A few things would have to happen for the plan to become a reality.

    City Manager Alan Tandy said Bakersfield has already agreed to pay roughly $300,000 a year for two assistant district attorneys to actively prosecute ?serious? misdemeanors instead of just issuing tickets.

    Judges also would need to cooperate with the decision to follow sentencing maximums. In an emailed statement, Presiding Judge Judith K. Dulcich of the Kern County Superior Court said that Zimmer had informed her of the plan but that judges could not decide on sentences before defendants appeared in court.

    The largest hurdle to surmount will be staffing at the jail complex.

    Youngblood estimates that 12 new deputies will be necessary to operate that first 120-person mega-barracks. The Kern County Sheriff?s Department will need to hire and train those new deputies, which will take time. The cost of paying the deputies and operating the reopened section of the jail would be about $1.6 million ayear, according to the department.

    The cost would grow to more than $3 million if a women?s section is opened, the sheriff estimated. The amount the city will pay remains under discussion. Officials plan to use Measure N funds, which would require City Council approval.

    There is not yet a firm timeline in place for reopening sections of the jail, but Youngblood said that, best-case scenario, the first facility could be up and running in four to six months.

    Zimmer said the proposal is not a done deal yet by any stretch of the imagination.

    ?We?re all just very prayerful,? she said, pointing to a Bible on her desk, which was open to the second chapter of the Gospel of Matthew. ?I just hope that God helps us and gives us wisdom to make the best decisions that we can for the public.?

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    6 days ago
    Could the LA times please keep a running total of how much of the HHH money has been spent so we know when we?ll be asked to vote for more?
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    6 days ago
    Heard of debtor prisons? And you think a criminal record is going to help people escape homelessness? Spend the money for shelters and drug treatment, unless this is just about bashing the sick and poor, something conservatives appear to enjoy doing.

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    1 week ago
    They should be doing this in Oxnard Ventura County. Its outta control here.
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    1 week ago
    I thought it was illegal for the police to enforce laws in California. Only Trial Lawyers can enforce laws like Prop 65, PAGA, ADA, and consumer protections.
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    1 week ago
    As someone who has enforced the law for 31 years and dealing with the homeless issue, enforcement of laws works better than letting the streets deal with their problem and allowing them to get deeper into their problem. In jail they get the help the need and a break from their drug and crime habit. Leaving them on the streets creates chaos and effects everyone's quality of life. I know because I step over these problems everyday. Compassion for these people is dealing with their problem honestly and not ignoring their problem or putting a crutch under it.
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    I agree 100% with you.

    1 week ago
    What is wrong with this newspaper? They're framing the Bakersfield solution as one that is worse than the "solutions" used in Los Angeles. How could this be any worse than the horrible situation we have today?
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    1 week ago
    LA Times is super left wing.
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    1 week ago
    Whatever works for them..and banging the drum AGAIN..why can't we comment on EVERY article..NYT allows it..
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    No, they don't. I also subscribe and comment to NYT. Although they allow postings to more pieces than LAT, it is far from every article.

    1 week ago
    I'm just waiting until they allow commenting on opinion articles. Until then I just won't click on them. I'm not a fan of having to read a person's monologue on a subject without any rebuttal to their position.
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    GREAT IDEA --- protecting the community for the well-being of the MAJORITY. "Compassion" does not mean letting people shoot heroin and smoke crack all day and night on the sidewalk. Just come up to the Tenderloin in SF and witness "compassion in action" where nothing gets better for the street people..... more misery for everyone involved... addiction demands action.
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    1 week ago
    Some cities, San Francisco for example, have needle exchange programs. Not sure how facilitating addiction helps. FYI, less than 60% of the needles are recovered not counting those found on the sand at our beaches.
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    1 week ago
    Its like asking, "Hey, what's the least effective and most expensive way to deal with this problem?!"

    1 week ago
    I think the least effective way is to continue not to arrest and allow the problem to grow. Obviously, you do not live in a community with a large homeless population.
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    5 days ago
    Obviously, you don't know me and are making baseless assumptions.

    1 week ago
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    This is not targeting the "homeless" in general. "Homeless" is a broad term for (1) those simply down on their luck (i.e., need jobs); (2) drug addicts on the street because all of their money goes to drugs, and they don't want to spent on anything else--including housing--or cannot hold a job because of their addiction, so they resort to petty crimes to fund their addiction; and (3) the mentally ill, some of whom simply cannot economically support themselves, in many cases because their very disease prevents them from seeking the medical help (medications, etc.) to right their own ship.

    The problem is--everyone who is against this focuses on No. 1, and says how horrible. But this effort is focused on No. 2. These people are addicted. They are committing crime, after crime, after crime to find their addictions. They need to be "in jail." But why not make "jail" a "drug jail," or--forced rehab. Spent are money on them not on punitive punishment, but trying to make them not our problem anymore. Letting them stay on the streets, and continue to chase their drug demon until they die, is not helping us (who have our cars broken into) or them. Or their families. Mandated rehab jail. And again--this is for the addicts who are arrested for misdemeanor offenses.

    And honestly, perhaps something like No. 3. If we aren't willing to go back to the long-term Mental Institutions, at least try to take a bite out of the problem with at least a fixed mandated term of mental health services. Maybe for some that gets them on the medication that allows them to lead a more normal life, and get off the street? Maybe not all. But could help the problem at least.

    I think Bakersfield is on to something. And at least they are trying to break the endless downward spiral that the rest of our cities are on.


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    1 week ago
    Anyone with a long memory will remember when the conservatives demanded that we close military bases and turn them over to the localities to profit from. Now they want to incarcerate the homeless and will demand more taxes to build out more beds. Would it not be nice if we had been allowed to keep all the military bases where we could now house the homeless and even the border crossers? Many could be put to use learning carpentry, electrical, plumbing, flooring, painting, etc while rehabing the base barracks and housing. Others could be put to productive use on ground maintenance and other needed tasks.

    Think of the jobs for police, fire, medical as well. Drugs could probably be controlled better in this environment as well. As they learned trades, they could be lined up with actual worthwhile jobs back in the communities. Those of college age and an aptitude for academic learning could be sent to community colleges and 4 year schools. Others could be put in various forms of trade school.

    There are plenty of jobs that Americans will do, we just have to train them and be willing to pay a living wage. In the end we save huge amounts of tax dollars now going to policing, corrections and rehab.

    As a nation we must become the adult in the room and stop doing gut reaction policy formation from the ultra right or left.
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    1 week ago
    What you are talking about is mass incarceration and a complete stripping of an individual's freedom, all for the crime of using drugs on the street. That is likely unconstitutional and complete unworkable.

    A banker gets caught with a gram of cocaine and gets a slap on the wrist. A homeless person gets caught with a gram of crack and get's sent a mandatory "re-education" camp for an indeterminate amount of time against their will? That won't pass muster.
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    1 week ago
    Unless the good folks who currently govern Bakersfield and Kern County actually do something beyond the arrest and incarceration of homeless individuals to break the cycle of homelessness in these people's lives, criminalizing their very existence with such punitive measures will merely perpetuate and exacerbate the existing problem with a compounding rate of recidivism. Further, the people of California surely should have learned by now that incarceration is very expensive. It's instead far cheaper to restore stability to the lives of the homeless by building them basic housing, which can connect them to the public services they need and provide those people who are employable with a permanent address. As no less than the conservative State of Utah has shown us, Housing First programs do work.
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    1 week ago
    Incarceration is expensive, but as we have seen in society, when it is not used effectively, society suffers. The percentage of people that are homeless as a result of an economic downturn pales in comparison to those homeless by choices made. Those that rely on criminal activity to fund their lifestyle will not benefit from housing unless they can find a way to steal from the housing complex to feed their poor decisions. If a homeless person commits a crime, punishment os absolutely needed. Turning the other cheek, and calling them the victim, only creates more true victims...
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    1 week ago
    I concur that some form of mandatory detention is in order for many of the homeless. Their problems cannot be overcome with outpatient treatment.

    The criminal justice system is not the proper venue; nobody gets better in jail.
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    1 week ago
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    Makes sense to me... Our justice-involved, curbside residents should be made to do community service as part of their probation terms. That would allow them to be observed and be mandated to drug/mental health treatment if it proves necessary. It would also reduce the cost of our current 'catch and release' system by lowering the rate recidivism and allow society to be repaid in part for the cost of their anti-social behavior.
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    1 week ago
    Bakersfield's solution to homelessness: send them to Arvin.

    1 week ago
    I think Buck Owens wrote a song about this called The Streets of Bakersfield. Great song.

    1 week ago
    This is terrible! All of our homeless are just good people down on their luck. There is little to no criminals, drug use or mental illness among our homeless population. If everyone would just step up and give homes to every homeless person, our problem would be solved! And they may not want to live in Bakersfield... maybe they want to live in Marina Del Rey, Malibu or Newport Beach. We need to buy homes for them there too. The homeless need to have housing options and the taxpayers need to provide! We need to be more compassionate and that means giving the homeless what they want, make sure there are no consequences to their actions and if they complain it's not enough, give them more. This will make their lives better.
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    1 week ago
    Did you forget the sarcasm imoji?
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    1 week ago
    I lived within a mile or so of the Sepulveda Basin Recreation Area, a mecca for the homeless. No part of the Basin is untouched by the homeless, including adjacent neighborhoods. For instance, a neighbor's 12 year-old daughter was awakened one night by a homeless man coming through her bedroom window...

    When walking my dogs, I've picked up used needles where kids and wildlife play. I'll find abandoned shopping carts, fill them with garbage left by the homeless and roll 'em to the dumpster...a rolling rain drop of filth left by these folks.

    The amount of used toilet paper is un-real. I caught one guy defecating into a creek at the park and asked him why he doesn't just use the public bathrooms a short walking distance away. "I don't feel like walking over there." was his response. The filth the homeless leave in their wake is stunning.

    And of course, the fires. The homeless have caused millions of dollars of damage in lost habitat and lost homes. This is a major concern for firefighters in residential, hillside areas.

    And so on.

    My worldview comes from the Left. I first view the homeless issue with compassion. But Liberal activists who know nothing of addiction, are far removed from the criminally-inclined, and/or are simply want to identify with Liberal causes despite knowing virtually nothing about the cause, want to frame the homeless as purely victims: abused women, vets suffering from PTSD, families one paycheck short of affordable housing, the mentally ill. But the fact is, and I have gone into the deep brush to talk to these folks, there are a ton of homeless who are homeless because they are addicted to alcohol and drugs - largely meth - and/or are gang members, ex-inmates, and petty criminals who have played themselves out of pocket. And many should be jailed, in no small part because they terrorize good people who happen to be homeless.

    I ran into a city employee who goes around testing water quality of LA's creeks and rivers and lakes. He often has to trek into hidden areas favored by the homeless. Here's what he told me: "The homeless used to be harmless. Mainly just old alcoholics and those down on their luck. But now it's a different breed. Meaner. Scarier. I don't feel as safe as I used to."

    Conservative approaches tend to ignore the causes and simply focus on symptoms. Their solutions tend not to resolve issues, but rather, perpetuate them. But as I see more and more, to my great dismay, Left-leaning leaders and orgs - especially on this homeless issue - ignore critical facts, also perpetuating the problem. Housing First in LA has been a disaster. Mayor Garcetti has dithered, overly concerned over a backlash from his base should he take more decisive measures that may appear harsh. Courts have caved to attorneys who successfully argue that law enforcement cannot touch the "belongings" of homeless, despite the fact that the vast majority of these belongings are acquired via theft, or dumpster diving, etc. In fact, officers in that area will tell you that their hands are virtually tied. Many times I have seen officers investigate a homeless camp where laws are broken 24/7/365, and eventually walk away, shaking their heads. And where these camps are abandoned, the homeless leave heaps of garbage several feet high. Anyone who drives Burbank Blvd. through Sepulveda Basin will attest to the unbelievable amount of garbage collected by city workers from periodic collections near Hjelte Park. Lawlessness in the Basin and elsewhere is off the charts.

    Too many automatically scoff at employing a tough approach as part of the solution mix. They simply do not know the full scope of the problem. If we can banish children to their rooms for misbehavior, we can certainly banish many homeless to a cell...until they get it.
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    1 week ago
    You are spot on with your post! I live on the Central Coast and the ?homeless? problem is growing exponentially. Our local shelters do not allow drug or alcohol abusers onto the facilities, for good reason. The result is that they live lawlessly along creeks and highway rights of way. During the day they panhandle in downtown areas and freeway ramps. They lounge on urban sidewalks and parks. At night they steal from unlocked vehicles and account for over 50% of local police calls for help. They are viewed and treated as sub-human. It?s interesting that this population of the ?homeless? grew dramatically when drug offense punishments in California were diminished. We have to find a better way of addressing the addicted and mentally ill living on our streets. Please google, ?Seattle is Dying? and watch the complete video. The first 30 minutes of the documentary we can all sadly relate to but the second 30 minutes is a ray of hope. Watch it. This problem will not go away on the path we are currently taking, period.
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    1 week ago
    A truly brilliant response to this article! I wish our local politicians would read it and make those tough decisions.....
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    1 week ago
    Here,here,...Bravo!
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    1 week ago
    "Housing First in LA has been a disaster"

    That's a bold claim to make for a policy that has never been implemented in LA. We are just at the beginning of building shelters and transitional housing; how do you know it doesn't work? It has worked literally everywhere else!
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    1 week ago
    No other city is like L.A. We are indisputably the nation's homeless capital. Housing First is a disaster in no small part because it's been impossible to implement on the scale needed. Add the time and money devoted to studies and attempts to implement and you are far from "bang for your buck". Even Mayor Garcetti reluctantly admitted that temporary housing must be a priority. Housing First in Seattle simply cannot be used as a model for Housing First in L.A. "One size fits all" is a proven loser when it comes to policy decisions.

    And one needs to only look at how many homeless have actually been served by Housing First to date in L.A. to see that this admirable liberal policy - as opposed to the conservative approach described in this article - is largely a pipe dream, a fantasy, and a journey into the Unrealistic.

    In fact, L.A. city and county leadership has failed for well over a decade to deliver on promises. "100 million for homeless" is a frequent annual headline. Read the fine print and research actual expenditures....And while leadership dithers on studies and solutions and implements woefully insufficient action, crime and filth accompany the growing homeless population, and L.A. becomes one big homeless camp... and Los Angelenos suffer diminished quality of life.
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    1 week ago
    Cities should address this by researching why people are homeless and working to amend the faults. There are some genuinely misfortunate out there. Not everyone is a bum or a tweaker. Quit judging those less fortunate than yourselves. Weed out those that are in fact the problem children and help those truly in need. Fix the rents where they stay affordable.
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    1 week ago
    They have....For some 59 years.

    Behavior Predicts Why Some People Spend Their Lives In Poverty And Social Dysfunction.
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    1 week ago
    Compassion for the homeless and decisive action on lawlessness are not mutually exclusive. Personally, I don't judge the homeless unless I witness individuals who absolutely deserve harsh judgement. And as someone who has mixed with the homeless in close quarters for decades, there is no doubt that many deserve harsh judgement, deserve to be jailed, and as I mention in my comment above, in no small part because they terrorize the good people who happen to be homeless. You simply cannot paint the homeless with a broad brush. As you say, there needs to be a weeding, and Bakersfield is right to start the process.
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    1 week ago
    Finally some CA city officials have the courage to do what needs to be done. Way overdue!
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    1 week ago
    I don't quite understand how being homeless justifies crimes like shooting heroin in public, burglary of homes and vehicles, sleeping on PRIVATE property, defecating in people's yards and public sidewalks.

    Prison is the most expensive public housing by far so it's not a "solution" but neither is ignoring all laws and societal norms in this population
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    1 week ago
    Just for a moment, please pause and fully consider that Mayor Garcetti has been the unrelenting shill for more than a billion in taxpayer dollars for homeless funding (Measures H and HHH) and yet he has failed to clean up even one block of Skid Row in his entire tenure as Mayor. I hope that contemplation would greatly temper any knee-jerk reaction from anyone in LA to the Bakersfield approach mentioned in the article.

    Somewhat hidden in the article, is one of the main barriers to effectively resolving much of the homeless issue. The reference to "try and move people when they don?t have the authority to do that" is central in understanding why both government authorities and charitable organizations are frustrated in their effort. It is absolutely against the law in the US to snatch up a destitute person off a piece of cardboard on a public sidewalk and force them into supportive housing and partake of essential services. Virtually all consumption of shelter and services by the homeless is done on a voluntary basis. We need to change the laws of the US to humanely respond to the growing homeless crisis.
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    1 week ago
    This is a scam on the people. They have empty jail beds and want to fill them anyway they can. Being homeless is not a crime!!

    ?We already have some people that go out and try and move people when they don?t have the authority to do that. And that can be dangerous,? he said. There is a large brotherhood there who are taking people off the street and dumping them in LA after scaring them with death if they come back.
    "The sheriff said he fears that if something isn?t done, more people will start trying to take matters into their own hands."

    Just follow the money $$$$

    1 week ago
    So this program would cost the county at least $3,600,000 per year? Since data show that only around half of the homeless population here are actually drug addicted, seems like that money would probably be better spent on assistive housing and social services for these people, as that would address the larger population of homeless people rather than just those who are drug addicted (though I agree with the sheriff that drug dealing/use in homeless encampments is a significant problem that needs to be addressed).

    It's interesting to read this from the perspective of a resident of the Bay Area. Folks here are always saying "why don't the homeless people go somewhere affordable, like Bakersfield/Central Valley?" The fact that it is also a huge problem in even more affordable places tells me that perhaps it has less to do with local economies and more to do with our country's economic structure as a whole.

    Whenever I've spoken to homeless people who are chronically homeless (as opposed to those who have had a bad turn of luck and are in the process of struggling mightily to get out of that situation), frankly, none of them seem quite right in the head or like they will ever be able to really take care of themselves. I think we need to be honest with ourselves (on the left and the right) that some people are just not capable of taking care of themselves in the way that most of us are, and then we have to decide if, as a society, we are going to provide some kind of social safety net to help these people (which may involve enforcing treatment for some of them), rather than criminalizing them (right) or just letting them die on the streets (left).
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    1 week ago
    You've got a great point. While I don't mean to trigger the peanut gallery, what you're describing are true public charges. It infuriates me that reactionaries on the right attempt to co-opt that meaning and apply it to anyone who uses food stamps for a few months or enrolls their kid in CHIP.
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    1 week ago
    Not to put too fine a point on it but $3.6M will pay for a bit more than 7 of the affordable units we're building in Los Angeles.

    4
    1 week ago
    Good luck with that, homelessness is a problem beyond drugs and mental health. Not many homeless are broke or uneducated for instance. I can see both sides, we need safe and secure neighborhoods, but the very last thing we want is police and judicial overreach.
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    1 week ago
    She estimated that 80% of the local homeless population is severely addicted to drugs. ?Some people have severe mental health issues, but most are drug addicts,? she said. The latest point-in-time count of homeless people in Kern County found that 51% of those surveyed reported a substance abuse issue.
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