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    Re: Who Do You Prefer: Hero or Villain?

    Who Do You Prefer: Hero or Villain?
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    Hey guys! I'm glad to see we can now post normally on the forum.

    I've always preferred stories where there isn't a good girl and a bad girl; I like more the journey of two good girls turning bad as they "woke up" in the sexfight world.

    Even so, if a story features a heroine and a villain, I always encourage the good girl
    On that note, it seems Mayans MC starts to gain on the idea I shared with you in terms of an interregional conflict. If you'll ever have spare time, I'm still up to write the catfight version of it.

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    I can appreciate many of the points that have been made already, and my own take on this is that, irrespective of the consideration of whether I prefer hero or villain, the fiction I write needs to contain sufficient drama to reward the reader as well as stimulate me, the writer, sufficiently to devote substantial hours and days of my time to creating the finished piece.

    I do get the point that many will root for either heroes or villains in an erotic story, however, I generally aim to write more nuanced characters, so that the demarcation is not always as clear as this. In the feedback to my original BSQ series, I found it interesting that the vast majority rooted for Helen over her rival Mhairi, who seemed to acquire villain status even though that was not necessarily my original intent. I guess the way I wrote the tale loaded it that way, and its true to say that Helen was - and remains - my favourite, even though she was not fated to win all of her matches. To my mind, predictability is the enemy of dramatic effect, and I will always focus on plot and story rather than going for an outcome based on the idea that either a hero or villain will win.

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    That brings me to another related thing, the fabricated nuance in the judgment of addiction. I'm sure you're aware recently Robin Wright claimed we should give a shot to Spacey at redemption as in other ways they couldn't change and reform. "Slight" problem is... the destructive addiction of my old man taught me addicts lie. They go into rehab promising the world, and many relapses soon. They're the not sober version of villains who think and feel to be the hero of their own story without whom the world would stand still. In other words, our choice is also influenced by how much of an enabler we are or can be, with a special focus on how much you care about your own community and the world in general.

    Now, certainly, I don't have designs to expect people to write with that in mind, but I do find such a moral framework to be essential. First and foremost because we had two big funerals last week, one for a former POW, who held high values about what democracy should be and another for a self-appointed separatist president who was the opposite of him in every way, including his daydream about conquering Britain.

    I can only share Rivals uncomfortableness of writing stories which depict bigots as heroes, for the simple reason that it portrays antievolutionary, nonbeneficial behavior as a to be followed example. In the past few years, thanks to advertising tied to consumerism, few things previously thought to be a faux pas publicly are now the supposed norm. Very loud, often trollish people appeared who claim this (being an a**hole) not to be a choice but a hard-wired feature. They use the same peer pressure cheerleaders use (no offense meant to actual benevolent cheerleaders) when they ostracize girls for "not falling in line". In turn, such peer pressure villains can have a redemption arc, provided the community doesn't endorse it (unlike those, who smash their iPhones or burn their Nikes).
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    Re: Who Do You Prefer: Hero or Villain?

    I actually like when the line between hero and villain is blurred.

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    Re: Who Do You Prefer: Hero or Villain?

    To me, if two women get in to a catfight / sexfight. Or a catfight turn sexfight, out
    of the blue. Ya know, not planed, or did not know one another much, or even at all.

    I would want the villain or bad girl to win or to cum out on top - so to speak.
    But these two, hate each other so much, that the hero or good girl wants to go at it again with
    the bad girl.
    Only this time, it's a closer or even a down to the wire winner a draw.

    Now it's more of a mind game for yet another cat/sex fight.
    Does the good girl stay a good girl. Or does she turn into a bad girl to cum out on top.
    Making it a villain vs villain nock down drag out dirty nasty - but hot - cat/sex fight.

    Just my thoughts.

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    Re: Who Do You Prefer: Hero or Villain?

    I'm not sure i have preference. Its generally more story and maybe even looks based.

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    Re: Who Do You Prefer: Hero or Villain?

    My personal preference is to have the "hero" win. However, as I've said before, the stories that I appeal to me are between two women who are evenly matched and where either one could conceivably defeat the other in a rematch. So, from time to time, I let the "villains" win, knowing that a return engagement is always possible, to even the score.

    Of course, this only applies in stories that are written as "hero vs. villian." Most of my stories, I think, are not - the characters are in competition, but neither is necessarily heroic or villainous.

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    Re: Who Do You Prefer: Hero or Villain?


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    Being a bigot, or some other kind of villain, doesn't make someone a lesser fighter. While it should factor into the equation of a story, especially if there's a multi-part story arc, it shouldn't be the deciding factor. In the story in question, I was pleasantly surprised to see Katie win after being so dominant for most of the fight. She was the aggressor, she did the most damage, and honestly the way the story was written she needed to be the winner. It would be nice to see someone (not Riya) take her down a few pegs, maybe after a few more fights, but only if you want to continue with the character.

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