Originally Posted by
catfightlover40
Dear Giannis,
I won't quote your whole reply as it'd be too long, so I wish to address some of its points for correction or expansion. First and chiefly I'd modify the claim "this much scissoring has never been done this many times" to "in Western cinema". I've talked in length about the fact, that after the sexual revolution in the late '60s and early '70s, where America was forced down on a path of renouncing mainstream erotica (yet you can still show gore and violence), other parts of the world did not follow that trend. Most famous among them is Emmanuelle from 1974, which spawned a series, spin-offs and imitators, and it was mainstream showing. Movies like that along with others in that offering should be examined before we could make a knowledge based claimed that this much scissoring has never been done before. I do give you that the newest social media generation upon running into this movie will claim that it hasn't been done before as nowadays everybody wants to be the popular kid in school and facts are only worthy if they make you popular.
I have to address the second point for its heteronormativity. People are people. For centuries, the heavily edited/redacted Kama Sutra was advertised as the book of sex for us the hetero crowd, but educational books, including drawings depicting sexual acts between gays and lesbians existed as well. Not only that, we know from surviving depictions created for noblemen in China, Japan and Korea that the medieval "Pornhub" was ricepaper painting depicting imagined, but mostly real acts. Thus demand for the forbidden fruit was always constant, but that's not necessarily overlapping with reality. What has to be understood here that even in the most oppressive of times, human desire to pass on knowledge as a form of legacy is a primal one, not unlike wanting to have progeny. As a monoclastic culture plagued by mainstream bigotries, LGBT literature became heavily personalized. The more people wished to persecute it, the more it allowed for it not just to be secret, but also to be selective. Humans are humans, so, yes, at times the power dynamics were less than ideal and citizens of colonies or those of military occupation had to things for their benefactors they personally did not like.
The third and last point: you say that perfect tribbing is the only exaggeration... except you forget you already start out with hot women. You could take an author like Luffington Sandcastles, for whom it took almost the entirety of his writing career to have readers accept characters that are not perfect. This is because unlike catfights, sexfights are written almost exclusively for men and women who're interested in the carnal side of the affair. Nothing wrong with that, but that's where I circle back to the original 1994 visual novel (which is not a comic book!) upon which Blue is the warmest color was based.
The author expressed some displeasure over the fact that it was a period piece for a reason and I happen to agree with her. It's not just a coming-of-age, slice of life story, but also one where one of the partners has had sexual experience with her own gender. One has to understand here, that while the French really did important scientific legwork in identifying how the HIV works, the French sexual revolution never extended to the LGBT. It's a pretty big point in the story that she comes to terms with who she is sexually with literally no help from anybody but her partner. The importance of the story comes from it not being simply about being gay or lesbian. Their breakup is owed to the fact that until the finish, where she selfishly thinks she can win her back, her egotistical traits take over, and she tries to own her. That makes it a relatable relationship problem with admittedly hot sex.
If it's not written as a fetish story (and Blue isn't), an author can focus on other factors that play into how they have sex. What is personal, social, cultural background? Does she or will she fear peer pressure? How confident is she with her own body image? How judgmental will her partner be? Does she want to put up with keeping a body in shape for an optimal sexual experience? How selfless or egotistical will she be as a lover? Just some of the questions that concern actual people.
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