Small VOTT's ?

[GM]

Oops! I misunderstood the Q.

Yeah, that was my thought too, but Altec got to where they were using whoever would do cabs cheapest, so wondered if they began buying up Heath overstock as The Heathkit store here in Atlanta couldn't hardly give away big speakers and tube based kits by the early '70s.

GM

[Alien_Shore]

Altec never really retired any design they still had re-cone kits and motor parts for regardless of what the catalogs indicated, so AFAIK, only the basket and wider mounting gasket are different. 15", 16" 416-8A Vs an 8B: Attachment 1537

GM

I have yet another version of the 416:


Any ideas on where this one lands in the chronology? Or is this just an 8A with a missing motor cover?

[just me now]

I have yet another version of the 416:


Any ideas on where this one lands in the chronology? Or is this just an 8A with a missing motor cover?

416-8Z is likely the model

[GM]

Right, no pot = Z model and what most speakers had in them beginning somewhere in the late '60s IIRC; I assume due to the cost cutting demanded by Ling, plus by then, amps were low output impedance, so the slight loss in motor strength [higher Qes/Qts] actually improved overall performance a bit as a bonus.

GM

[Audio_by_Goodwill]

That number should tell what it is. I had a JPG version of some paper that Altec produced that crossed those numbers over, at one point. I lost it during a computer problem, Though. I think it was something that Bowtie posted.

I looked up the numbers on my 417s, and they're 8Hs just like they should be for the 1221A monitor.

I've also got a 416-8A...... new frame, but old motor cover. It came from Studio 28 in Grand Rapids, when it was shut down.

[Old Guy]

30767 comes back as 416-8z

1975 DRIVER REFERENCE

See 846b on this page

http://www.lansingheritage.org/image...ers/page06.jpg

[VolvoHeretic]

Anyone know how the 416-8A-16" and 416-8B-16" with the same 23883 cone sound compared to each other? I seem to understand that the 416-8B's 75wpc is rated at double the power capacity of the 416-8A's 21554 30wpc, how also do they compare? It?ll take months to understand the HF drivers lingo.

The worst thing is that my 416?s have absolutely no markings on them whatsoever as do the HF drivers on my 32B horns. Kind of frustrating.

Ok, I just checked and my 416 cone says 21184-3, what gives?
Edit; opps, I see that Alien's speaker has the same cone.

[magnarc]

21184-x is the cone found in many 416, 515 and 604 models.
Exactly what the -x suffix number relates to I'm not sure.

I haven't seen any other cone number in a 416. The early 803 yes.

[mah]

I have a 416-8B with cone # 18-03-035400. This is the EV part number given to the 416 8ohm cone supplied by Altec.

[magnarc]

If I'm not mistaken, that is the later part number, often a recone part, or 80s part.