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Friendly Sexfights - Hot or Lame?
So, there are two ends of the fight fiction spectrum, sexy and violent. And then, even in sexfights there is another spectrum, hateful vs. friendly.
I feel like most sexfights are skewed towards hateful, but at least I enjoy the concept of a freindly sexfight. Where two women want to test each other sexually, and claim the alpha position, but not because they are at odds or embroiled in some long-simmering and loathing-born feud.
Where are you all at on the subject?
Can a friendly sexfight be hot for you? Or do you need the women to be at each other's throats to enjoy it?
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Rivals_Rapture
So, there are two ends of the fight fiction spectrum, sexy and violent. And then, even in sexfights there is another spectrum, hateful vs. friendly.
I feel like most sexfights are skewed towards hateful, but at least I enjoy the concept of a freindly sexfight. Where two women want to test each other sexually, and claim the alpha position, but not because they are at odds or embroiled in some long-simmering and loathing-born feud.
Where are you all at on the subject?
Can a friendly sexfight be hot for you? Or do you need the women to be at each other's throats to enjoy it?
I've always been a fan of more friendly sexfights, partly because we don't see them that often. One idea I particularly like is two women who are married/lovers but are also SUPER-competitive so they're always trying to top each other and are probably together in the first place because the other gives her such a good challenge.
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big big fan of friendly sexfights. they are the real deal.
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Originally Posted by
Rivals_Rapture
So, there are two ends of the fight fiction spectrum, sexy and violent. And then, even in sexfights there is another spectrum, hateful vs. friendly.
I feel like most sexfights are skewed towards hateful, but at least I enjoy the concept of a freindly sexfight. Where two women want to test each other sexually, and claim the alpha position, but not because they are at odds or embroiled in some long-simmering and loathing-born feud.
Where are you all at on the subject?
Can a friendly sexfight be hot for you? Or do you need the women to be at each other's throats to enjoy it?
Sir... You speak to the vice-President of the FS party (Friendly Sexfights Party) of this forum !!
The President is my good friend APenman of course !!
LOL LOL LOL
Yes, I am fully into friendly sexfight stories.
OK i have also written - but very very few - not so friendly sexfights but the majority of the sexfights i have written is friendly sexfights.
For me... the real challenge is there...
For me... the non friendly sexfights is a catfight with an erotic twist at the end.
Catfights are not my cup of tea...
For example :
W1 and W2 (let's say woman 1 and 2) LOVE each other. They may be real friends or lovers.
They may be good friends at work. They may be ltwo loving / liking each other neighbors.
There is no animosity between them. No rivalry. They have nothing to settle...
They want to spend some wild moments together.
They are BOTH extremely competitive.
They LOVE each other but they both hate to lose in a sexfight.
Their female pride does not accept it. Even if it comes from a woman they like or love.
They start a wild sexfight, both determined to f@ck each other's brain out.
The heat of their contest raises their passion.
They use trash talk. They call each other names.
They use all that one can find in a no frierndly sexfight, except of the use of pain/violence
Each of them wants to prove that she is the "alpha" female between them.
There are tender and loving feelings for one another BEFORE the sexfight
But DURING the sexfight, they are rivals. They feel it, they like it that way.
They want it that way. They act that way.
Then... AFTER the storm... tender/loving feelings return as strong as before.
Even if one of them is also dissappointed because she lost.
A sweet tender kiss"seals the deal" for a rematch.
A request of the loser which the winner willingly accepts.
That's the spirit of the female sexfights my friends.
Extremely hot for my personal taste.
Be well !!
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Non friendly sexfights are the way to go... the mix hateful emotions towards each other while comparing their womanhood in the most private way possible is the perfect mix.
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MR_TJ
Non friendly sexfights are the way to go... the mix hateful emotions towards each other while comparing their womanhood in the most private way possible is the perfect mix.
To surprise you my friend, friendly sexfight is definitely my preference BUT i also like no friendly sexfights. Especially if the "no sexfight action" does not contain a lot of violence.
I have also written no friendly sexfights.
Meaning ? Viva sexfights ! Of any kind ! Especially if there is also a lot of trib and clitfight there. Lot of kissfight and titfight also, either as a foreplay or during the pussy to pussy battle !
What i do not like ? A lot of violence. The erotic action to keep a secondary role.
My personal taste talks.
Be well !!
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Giannis-CB
To surprise you my friend, friendly sexfight is definitely my preference BUT i also like no friendly sexfights. Especially if the "no sexfight action" does not contain a lot of violence.
I have also written no friendly sexfights.
Meaning ? Viva sexfights ! Of any kind ! Especially if there is also a lot of trib and clitfight there. Lot of kissfight and titfight also, either as a foreplay or during the pussy to pussy battle !
What i do not like ? A lot of violence. The erotic action to keep a secondary role.
My personal taste talks.
Be well !!
I think what I?m trying to relate too is relatable to the video by California wildcats named ?violent love? where they are violently grinding pussies or titfighting very roughly.. more like that
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MR_TJ
I think what I’m trying to relate too is relatable to the video by California wildcats named “violent love” where they are violently grinding pussies or titfighting very roughly.. more like that
"Violent Love" is one of the better videos i have EVER watched !!
There was some of violence between the two women, that's true.
But I liked VERY much the rough way they were grinding pussies.
There i watched for first time the meaning of "pussies in war"
If there was more of trash talk during fucking and less of violence it would be perfect for me.
For me... another one CW video which was also very good was "Cyber Heat" . Unforgettable ! The two women... so hot...
I can not forget it. Because it was the first time in my life i watched a sexfight video.
Then came "Wild things" and other videos.
Oh... these days... these videos...
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MR_TJ
I think what I?m trying to relate too is relatable to the video by California wildcats named ?violent love? where they are violently grinding pussies or titfighting very roughly.. more like that
Well, I guess I'm on my own here.
To my way of thinking, anything with Chantel Lace was great. There was an intensity, a dislike, that she not only emoted, but also pulled out of whomever she worked with. They don't batter each other bloody, but they aren't going out for pedi's afterwards either. Tanya Daniel--especially with Devon Michaels or Tori Sinclair--Anita Cannibal and Gina and Faye from Chickfights could also create that mood.
I'm probably overreacting to the idea of 'friendly', but what that suggests to me is the bored expressions and no chemistry sort of soft core lesbian bouts. Sort of Napali at it's worst. I really don't like those at all.
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This is an interesting thread, as it's right up my alley. Actually, I?m surprised by the number of positive responses for the ?friendly sexfight? as I was under the (obviously mistaken) impression that most people here were hardcore catfight/sexfight fans.
The friendly sexfight, as my friend Giannis has pointed out, is my stock-in-trade. I find it to be most suitable for my particular writing style. Indeed, from my perspective, friendly sexfights potentially contain all the necessary ingredients, minus violence..
For me, they are the easiest and most fun to write. This may have something to do with my tendency to utilize humor.
I like my characters (my girls) to be smart, (and just a bit ditzy) sexy, vulnerable, strong, funny, pensive, quick-witted, sharp-tongued and of course, very eager to get naked and busy with each other. If the action between two girls gets heated and competitive, with lots of cussing and trash talking, so much the better. But always, for me, it has to be about the overwhelming sensations of their sexual coupling, and a little bit of humanity (vulnerability?) in the mix.
A.P.
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cyberj
Well, I guess I'm on my own here.
To my way of thinking, anything with Chantel Lace was great. There was an intensity, a dislike, that she not only emoted, but also pulled out of whomever she worked with. They don't batter each other bloody, but they aren't going out for pedi's afterwards either. Tanya Daniel--especially with Devon Michaels or Tori Sinclair--Anita Cannibal and Gina and Faye from Chickfights could also create that mood.
I'm probably overreacting to the idea of 'friendly', but what that suggests to me is the bored expressions and no chemistry sort of soft core lesbian bouts. Sort of Napali at it's worst. I really don't like those at all.
I have to agree. Napali videos got pretty dull and repetitive after a while.
A.P.
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i know that this fucking forum is lame.
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I think it depends on how you define "friendly." I, personally, find violent catfights/sexfights to be repellent. I don't find anything stimulating at all in reading about women physically harming each other. On the other hand, I do think that overly friendly bouts, where it is just about women who like or even love each other testing each other sexually can be too tame, though I can think of a number of stories like this (mostly A. Penman's) that work really well. To me, the element of competition is greatly enhanced if the women involved see each other as real enemies and are acting accordingly. This doesn't mean that some kind of mutual affection cannot be part of the mix, but the sense that something really meaningful (at a personal level) is at stake adds an element of danger to the story that really matters. To me, really "friendly" sexfights tend to be boring.
An example of a story that sort of straddles the line is A. Penman's "Beth and Sandra Get Closer to Jehovah." I love that story. The women in it are friends but they are also in a genuine competition with each other and they see it as such. Other examples: the original "Club Wars" had two women who were in a real battle to see who would stay in town. No physical harm done but no love lost between the two main characters either.
Hm. In reading this, I'm not sure I'm being that consistent. I guess what I am saying is that I like/prefer stories where the characters are battling with a real sense of mutual hate to spice things up. But, clearly, I also can like much "friendlier" bouts as well. Just keep the violent stuff away from me.
JB
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cyberj
Well, I guess I'm on my own here.
To my way of thinking, anything with Chantel Lace was great. There was an intensity, a dislike, that she not only emoted, but also pulled out of whomever she worked with. They don't batter each other bloody, but they aren't going out for pedi's afterwards either. Tanya Daniel--especially with Devon Michaels or Tori Sinclair--Anita Cannibal and Gina and Faye from Chickfights could also create that mood.
I'm probably overreacting to the idea of 'friendly', but what that suggests to me is the bored expressions and no chemistry sort of soft core lesbian bouts. Sort of Napali at it's worst. I really don't like those at all.
I may not have made it very clear, but I was talking about written stories, not videos. I agree, a friendly sexfight VIDEO would likely be bad for all those reasons you mentioned. A story, however, could avoid all of those issues.
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JB57
I think it depends on how you define "friendly." I, personally, find violent catfights/sexfights to be repellent. I don't find anything stimulating at all in reading about women physically harming each other. On the other hand, I do think that overly friendly bouts, where it is just about women who like or even love each other testing each other sexually can be too tame, though I can think of a number of stories like this (mostly A. Penman's) that work really well. To me, the element of competition is greatly enhanced if the women involved see each other as real enemies and are acting accordingly. This doesn't mean that some kind of mutual affection cannot be part of the mix, but the sense that something really meaningful (at a personal level) is at stake adds an element of danger to the story that really matters. To me, really "friendly" sexfights tend to be boring.
An example of a story that sort of straddles the line is A. Penman's "Beth and Sandra Get Closer to Jehovah." I love that story. The women in it are friends but they are also in a genuine competition with each other and they see it as such. Other examples: the original "Club Wars" had two women who were in a real battle to see who would stay in town. No physical harm done but no love lost between the two main characters either.
Hm. In reading this, I'm not sure I'm being that consistent. I guess what I am saying is that I like/prefer stories where the characters are battling with a real sense of mutual hate to spice things up. But, clearly, I also can like much "friendlier" bouts as well. Just keep the violent stuff away from me.
JB
You wrote : "To me, really "friendly" sexfights tend to be boring" . As you also wrote... << it depends on how you define "friendly" >> :)
I have a slight different opinion for your phrase "the element of competition is greatly enhanced if the women involved see each other as real enemies and are acting accordingly". For me, it is NOT necessary the two women to see each other as real enemies. It is enough to see each other as competitors about the reason they sexfight (who is the better woman, blonde vs dark-haired, older vs younger e.t.c.). As you see in In my examples here, the reason is not something really serious. It is not about a man, a third woman, money, a job... It is just an excuse to enjoy a sexfight.
For me :In a friendly sexfight two horny women just use an excuse to share some wild moments, enjoying a more intense f@cking because of the heat of their contest. If the story is hot or boring, it depends on the writer's writing style for that particular story.
In General, about any kind of sexfights, friendly or not... : Just keep the violent stuff away from me and i am fully into them !!
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I?ve always wondered what the actual personal relationship was like between Devon Michaels and tanya Danielle, since by my count they did 7(?) videos together, but 4 of them were just Parts 1 & 2 of the ?Dueling DD?s? video, which I might have to say set the standard for me for ?friendly? sexfights.
I have another example, although it?s from Catfight Central, I think it still tracks?there was a video between Eve and Mona, and even though it was a competitive match, it?s more wrestling moves, with the exception of a few traded slaps on the ass. But at the end, for the shower ?clean-up?, they were much friendlier with each other, with Mona even playfully slapping Eve?s breast when they were washing each other, followed by her jokingly saying ?You bitch, you beat me in the ring.? And Eve responding with ?See? It?s not so bad, we get to shower together now.?
Overall though, I?m loving this thread.
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As a further example of what I like, I think that kingofdapirates recent "Maggie and Amber" stories embody my preferences ("A Quiet Affair" and "The Final Grade"). There, you have two women who genuinely hate each other even as they find themselves lusting after each other. For both, losing to the other is the ultimate humiliation. King's stories capture the dynamic that I like perfectly. Even the way the last story ends - with the women apparently coming to friendly terms but with the hint that their relationship remains primarily a mutually-arousing sexual rivalry - is perfect.
JB
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I come down much more in favor of the friendly competition - In my ideal world, the two would meet and discover their similarities, which would fire their interest and attraction as well as arousing their competitive side. I think my favorite story-type would have to be the ultra-competitive lovers/roommates - They care deeply for each other, even to the point of being in love with each other, but their competitive spirits are a huge factor in their relationship.
So maybe it isn't as much the "friendly" as it is "not antagonistic" for me.
B
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Thanks to Rival's Rapture for starting this lively and interesting thread. Like my friend A.P., I was interested, although not altogether surprised, by the number of positive responses for the “friendly sexfight”.
Those familiar with my own tales will identify them on the whole with aggressive or 'unfriendly' titfight/sexfights (although usually operating within certain 'preordained' constraints to prevent the action tipping too far into outright violence). To put it another way, the friendly sexfight has not been my stock-in-trade to date. I guess I enjoy writing about the elements of bitchy rivalry and aggressive conflict more than having my ladies cosying up to each other even as they agree to trib it out competitively.
Despite my propensity to write aggressive fights, I enjoy reading examples of the 'friendlier' variety very much as well, and certainly wouldn't balk at the prospect of trying my hand at one some day. There are several masters of the friendly sexfight on these threads, and I suspect in some ways they are harder to pull off well, often requiring a lighter touch and deft use of humor as well.
Rags
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I can see such a story in my mind, which is likely why I have laid out a ton of them of them in Google Docs. But my intent to write has yet to manifest, as I am constantly battling my own fear that people will think the tale is too soft.
When I write a sexfight, even an at-each-other's-throats tale", I hear it. "Oh there Rival's goes again." Too soft. Too sexual. Where's the violence and the hate?!
I can imagine what those same people would say if I wrote one of these stories. lol
And yet, I do plan on it. I just have to find the nerve.
It's interesting, at least in my own mind, that my story Wrong Number is a unique mix of both.
It starts with the girls being so angry they can barely contain themselves, but by the end, they have softened to the point of being the sweetest of lovers. And though that isn't a rare transition for me, I still feel like that story is the only one that I would call a "friendly sexfight".
Apart from answering my own question, I'm glad it seems that there is an appetite, not only amongst readers, but writers for the concept.
Thank you all so much for your input!
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Rivals_Rapture
I can see such a story in my mind, which is likely why I have laid out a ton of them of them in Google Docs. But my intent to write has yet to manifest, as I am constantly battling my own fear that people will think the tale is too soft.
When I write a sexfight, even an at-each-other's-throats tale", I hear it. "Oh there Rival's goes again." Too soft. Too sexual. Where's the violence and the hate?!
I can imagine what those same people would say if I wrote one of these stories. lol
And yet, I do plan on it. I just have to find the nerve.
It's interesting, at least in my own mind, that my story
Wrong Number is a unique mix of both.
It starts with the girls being so angry they can barely contain themselves, but by the end, they have softened to the point of being the sweetest of lovers. And though that isn't a rare transition for me, I still feel like that story is the only one that I would call a "friendly sexfight".
Apart from answering my own question, I'm glad it seems that there is an appetite, not only amongst readers, but writers for the concept.
Thank you all so much for your input!
Rivals_rapture,
I'm not in your position, so I cannot speak authoritatively. You have to deal with your own dilemmas in your own way.
But, you're such an amazing writer that the question arises in my head (when you mentioned this now and in the past)...WHY are you worried about what others think? Write what you want to write! For what it's worth, I'll read it. I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to read a completely sexual woman to woman sweaty lesbian encounter written by your gifted pen!!!
Again, that's just me.
And by the way, thanks for posting this interesting thread...In a way, it has given me a bit more confidence that people out there (because my writing is of the "friendly" style) appreciate my efforts.
A.P.
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apenman
Rivals_rapture,
I'm not in your position, so I cannot speak authoritatively. You have to deal with you own dilemmas in your own way.
But, you're such an amazing writer that the question arises in my head (when you mentioned this now and in the past)...WHY are you worried about what others think? Write what you want to write! For what it's worth, I'll read it. I would ABSOLUTELY LOVE to read a completely sexual woman to woman sweaty lesbian encounter written by your gifted pen!!!
Again, that's just me.
And by the way, thanks for posting this interesting thread...In a way, it has given me a bit more confidence that people out there (because my writing is of the "friendly" style) appreciate my efforts.
A.P.
I shouldn't, I know; but I do for some reason. It's kind of something I have always struggled with in writing. Even in comic book roleplay. That being, if someone tells me I have a weakness, I want to prove them wrong. Not for ego's sake, but to prove to myself that I can do what I am told I cannot.
Also, I just want to be an author that has fans in every corner of our little genre, but occasionally makes me a little tilted to whichever side is more complain-y.
Sexfight and titfight fans are very patient, whereas catfight fans ... are perhaps less so. The squeaky wheel I suppose, always willing to tell you the mistakes you made -- those mistakes being not writing their fantasy they way they want it.
Where as sexfight fans are like, "could you have their hips thrust maybe like once or something?"
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I like friendly sexfights. I also like hostile ones too.
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Rivals_Rapture
I can see such a story in my mind, which is likely why I have laid out a ton of them of them in Google Docs. But my intent to write has yet to manifest, as I am constantly battling my own fear that people will think the tale is too soft.
so you put down every idea you ever have on google docs? thats interesting. i should do that too.
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apenman
This is an interesting thread, as it's right up my alley. Actually, I?m surprised by the number of positive responses for the ?friendly sexfight? as I was under the (obviously mistaken) impression that most people here were hardcore catfight/sexfight fans.
A.P.
This is because a lovers of hardcore sexfight story so not friendly, what they don't speak on this forum not at all. They only read a hardcor sexfight stories.
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Hello
a couple of months ago, I posted a story in two parts, nbr one here: Sara and the timberyard Part 1
which described a non-hostile, but competitative and with "straight on" wrestling and cunt to cunt sweaty sexfighting. Only one or two cared to comment, so I thought for a while it was because it didn't contained enough aggressiveness.
But I also described rather muscular, butchy and short-haired women, maybe that was the reason for the lack of interest. But for some strange reason, that's what turn me on.
Anyhow, take care out there!
Johnnes
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johannesdk
hello
a couple of months ago, i posted a story in two parts, nbr one here:
sara and the timberyard part 1
which described a non-hostile, but competitative and with "straight on" wrestling and cunt to cunt sweaty sexfighting. Only one or two cared to comment, so i thought for a while it was because it didn't contained enough aggressiveness.
But i also described rather muscular, butchy and short-haired women, maybe that was the reason for the lack of interest. But for some strange reason, that's what turn me on.
Anyhow, take care out there!
Johnnes
this is the big problem of this site my friend... For many years. No reviews, no messages to the writers. Most of the people here, they read a story, they may like it or not, they do not show it. They do not click on the "i like it" button as well !!
It is not your fault. It is not about the women or the action you described. I think that many people here know how good writer you are. However this treatment discourages not only you, many people.
I personally focus more to how many people read a story of mine. I know that i will get very few replies. The exceptions to this "rule" are very rare.
Btw... I had not read it !! I downloaded it now to read it later. Where is part 2 ?
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Hi Giannis
thanks for your nice words friend!
Part one: Sara and the timberyard Part 1
Part two: Sara and the timberyard Part 2 and end-of-story
Btw, I wonder if anyone got the catch with the very last paragraph (the dream sequence) ???
As a hint, check my first story ever: The adventures of Xara - My first story
Enjoy
Johannes
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Originally Posted by
Rivals_Rapture
I can see such a story in my mind, which is likely why I have laid out a ton of them of them in Google Docs. But my intent to write has yet to manifest, as I am constantly battling my own fear that people will think the tale is too soft.
When I write a sexfight, even an at-each-other's-throats tale", I hear it. "Oh there Rival's goes again." Too soft. Too sexual. Where's the violence and the hate?!
I can imagine what those same people would say if I wrote one of these stories. lol
And yet, I do plan on it. I just have to find the nerve.
It's interesting, at least in my own mind, that my story
Wrong Number is a unique mix of both.
It starts with the girls being so angry they can barely contain themselves, but by the end, they have softened to the point of being the sweetest of lovers. And though that isn't a rare transition for me, I still feel like that story is the only one that I would call a "friendly sexfight".
Apart from answering my own question, I'm glad it seems that there is an appetite, not only amongst readers, but writers for the concept.
Thank you all so much for your input!
I think it is absolutely crucial to write what you like, for yourself. My own feeling is that I would not write most of my stories if I were not writing for myself - I simply could not sustain my interest and excitement otherwise. I realize that means that many of my stories are similar in their basic approach to sexfights, but I don't think that this is an issue that can be resolved. We like what we like. I find that, for me, the greatest variation and interest lies in setting up the different scenarios. That is why it is so important to have a genuine story underpinning the sexfight.
JB57
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JB
you express exactly how I feel when writing: I can only write what satisfies in as many details as possible what turns me on. Actually that hasn't changed much in decades.
Although I do remember in my youth, how hot I found the rater innocent bikini-wrestling photos from Judell Du Long. But during the following years, I realised that sweaty sexfighting between strong shorthaired woman, for friendly domination, with a rather (semi)realistic build-up was my thing.
Anyhow, since I had to search around a bit for my stories, I want to share that with others, so here's the links:
Part one: Sara and the timberyard Part 1
Part two: Sara and the timberyard Part 2 and end-of-story
My first story ever: The adventures of Xara - My first story
My first story was submitted a couple of years ago, so I gave up trying to use the Hostboard search, but google search using "xara site:hostboard.com" found it very quickly.
Take care
Johannes
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Love Friendly ones. Ruby Takes a Roommate is one of my all time favorites. But I must also say I love a straight up cat fight that leads to arousal. In both scenarios I think it is the breaking down of inhibitions that is the turn on...this forum is set slow!