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    Hello, I was curious who you all are voting for this election?Hopefully, we will be ending the Bush/Clinton Monarchy. Do you realize for the past 20 years, We have had a Bush, or a Clinton? With the main stream media, seems all we have for choices are Barrack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and John Edwards. This is just on the democratic side of the coin. To me it just does not seem like we have good choices. Unless you research, then you see a light at the end of the dark tunnel. I have, My candidate is former Alaskan Senator Mike Gravel. This is a man, for the people, wants to make us law makers, end taxes, free health care for all, he is just simply BEAUTIFUL. Please look at his videos on youtube. He has been cut from several debates simply because he does not have enough money. Nevermind, that he has the best interest for this country at heart. The censorship is disgusting to me, as I feel everyone has the right to be herd.When he is at the debates, he truly speaks the truth. So much so, that the limit his amount of time that he is aloud to speak. Enough of him for now. I would like to give you a little background on Barrack Obama. Just a little,cause I know I am writing a novel here.Did you know that George Bush,Dick Cheney,John Kerry, and Barrack Obama are all cousins. This is not a rumor, this is a cold hard fact. Most of Barracks (and Hillary's) funding comes from wall street, and other places that are being kept secret from the public by Barracks campaign.He did not vote against the War in Iraq, and continues not to vote against funding for it either. Hillary voted for the war,but since a large public out cry is now against the war, she is also saying she wants to end it, but on the other side of the coin, she has not voted against funding it either.I do not have much dirt on John Edwards myself, I know he ran with Kerry before. Really I have not gave a lot of attention to him, He just seems like another politician to me. Saying what he thinks others wants to hear,no heart behind it.I did indeed vote for Kerry, he also said he would not concede till every last vote was counted. To no avail, he lied, and did before every last vote was counted. A year later I learned that he was a member of the Skull and Bones with Mr.Bush, and also learned that they were cousins. I smelled a rat. Here we are on the dawn of 8 years of the Bush administration,We have our top tier media funded presidential hopefuls. Not much too the top tier candidates, same old **** if you ask me. Obama has been in the headlines,One on the CBS morning news that was showing the family tree of George Bush. As I mentioned above, Obama, Cheney, Kerry, were on the list of those. A couple of months later, it was big news when Kerry decided to back Obama, instead of his old running mate Edwards. Well if you ask me Blood is thicker than water. Why wouldn't he? Same blood-line same bull-**** .I may have put a plug in for Mr.Gravel, but I do ask this of you before you vote, the information of all the candidates are all here, we are in the age of information. The agenda of the elite is on the move for the new world order. Which was introduced to the public On SEPTEMBER THE 11th 1991...AND 10 years later...We all see what happened, and now we have the Patriot Act..and other laws that are being put in place,slowly taking your freedoms away, all in the name of terrorism. I am not telling you who to vote for, but research before you do.Thanks for listening.

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo"]YouTube - New World Order[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ldZS9PL9KE"]YouTube - Bush Family Tree[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A74rF2fl_XQ"]YouTube - Bush Family History Lesson[/ame]
    [nomedia]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj6uyDDnx50[/nomedia]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPsz5GnrFo8"]YouTube - Skull & Bones: Bush and Kerry[/ame]
    [nomedia]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0DoxrNCImI[/nomedia]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3gQfz8GC0o"]YouTube - Mike Gravel Exposes Clinton & Obama on Iran, Hillary Cackles[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OGN4FpIG54"]YouTube - Mike Gravel at the September 26th Debate in New Hampshire[/ame]

    Watch these videos, surf around on youtube. Learn about your candidates.

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSoCHfyYCew"]YouTube - October 30th's Coincidence[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QZQKH6eDus"]YouTube - Mike Gravel at the August 19th Debate in Iowa[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBcMUZAXMW4"]YouTube - Mike Gravel at the Democratic Debate[/ame]

    Last video links I post. Watch these videos please.Thanks.

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    Ron Paul is My Choice.....

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    Congressman Ron Paul is the leading advocate for freedom in our nation?s capital. As a member of the U.S. House of Representatives, Dr. Paul tirelessly works for limited constitutional government, low taxes, free markets, and a return to sound monetary policies. He is known among his congressional colleagues and his constituents for his consistent voting record. Dr. Paul never votes for legislation unless the proposed measure is expressly authorized by the Constitution.In the words of former Treasury Secretary William Simon, Dr. Paul is the ?one exception to the Gang of 535? on Capitol Hill.

    Ron Paul was born and raised in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. He graduated from Gettysburg College and the Duke University School of Medicine, before proudly serving as a flight surgeon in the U.S. Air Force during the 1960s. He and his wife Carol moved to Texas in 1968, where he began his medical practice in Brazoria County. As a specialist in obstetrics/gynecology, Dr. Paul has delivered more than 4,000 babies. He and Carol, who reside in Lake Jackson, Texas, are the proud parents of five children and have 17 grandchildren.

    While serving in Congress during the late 1970s and early 1980s, Dr. Paul?s limited-government ideals were not popular in Washington. In 1976, he was one of only four Republican congressmen to endorse Ronald Reagan for president.

    During that time, Congressman Paul served on the House Banking committee, where he was a strong advocate for sound monetary policy and an outspoken critic of the Federal Reserve?s inflationary measures. He was an unwavering advocate of pro-life and pro-family values. Dr. Paul consistently voted to lower or abolish federal taxes, spending and regulation, and used his House seat to actively promote the return of government to its proper constitutional levels. In 1984, he voluntarily relinquished his House seat and returned to his medical practice.

    Dr. Paul returned to Congress in 1997 to represent the 14th congressional district of Texas. He presently serves on the House Committee on Financial Services and the House Committee on Foreign Affairs. He continues to advocate a dramatic reduction in the size of the federal government and a return to constitutional principles.

    Congressman Paul?s consistent voting record prompted one of his congressional colleagues to say, ?Ron Paul personifies the Founding Fathers? ideal of the citizen-statesman. He makes it clear that his principles will never be compromised, and they never are.? Another colleague observed, ?There are few people in public life who, through thick and thin, rain or shine, stick to their principles. Ron Paul is one of those few.?



    Brief Overview of Congressman Paul?s Record:

    He has never voted to raise taxes.
    He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
    He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
    He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
    He has never taken a government-paid junket.
    He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.

    He voted against the Patriot Act.
    He voted against regulating the Internet.
    He voted against the Iraq war.

    He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
    He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.

    Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress

    http://www.ronpaul2008.com/about/

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    I have seen all the videos and I have to say the Sen. Gravel spoke the way I feel on all aspects.
    He is a courageous and brilliant man. At this point he has my vote. What scares me is after the Bush voting mishap.... will it really make a difference.
    Are we really heard or will the votes be rigged like Bush's were.
    I'm sad, this man has so much to offer.
    Thanks for posting this information...

    Cherie

    <font color="#007FFF" size="1">[ January 20, 2008 02:51 PM: Message edited by: CHERIECURRIE ]</font>

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    Cherie, You are in a position to help this man be our next president. You have fans and can help spread the word on Mike Gravel. I truly, in all of my years have never seen such a man with honesty, and a genuine care for the people of the United States.I help as much as I can. I donate to his campaign, and post stuff online about him. I know since you are a celebrity, you have a lot more people that will listen to you, as opposed to myself.I also want to thank you for taking the time out to watch the videos. Peace and love be with you.

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    Draft Gore!
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    Originally posted by gus danger:
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    Draft Gore!
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    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Al Gore is proof that aliens are living on this planet !

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    Originally posted by Vote4Gravel:
    Impeachment Statement by Presidential Candidate Senator Mike Gravel

    While I?ve been outspoken in favor of the Impeachment of Vice President Cheney and President Bush since last July, today I?m announcing my very strong and unqualified support for Impeachment.

    I want to very clearly and emphatically affirm the imperative of Impeachment as the Presidential Campaign begins to move into high gear and as the media is busy anointing the ?front runners.?

    As a Candidate for President, and most importantly as an American, I firmly believe that our most important and highest priority, both as individual American citizens and as a whole Nation, is to protect, defend, and nourish the foundation of American Democracy: the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. Every other issue is of secondary importance.

    I?ve chosen to run for President to effect what I consider to be much needed change. When people go to Internet websites that match them with the candidates that best reflect their own concerns and priorities, a very large number of voters find that I am the candidate best advocating the issues they most care about.

    However, today I want to unequivocally state: without Impeachment first, what I or any other worthy Presidential candidate wants to accomplish is very unlikely to happen. Our words will in fact become another empty campaign promise and another sad political fantasy.

    Why am I making such a statement?

    Let?s review a few supremely important and disturbing facts:

    Without Impeachment before we choose the next Administration, we as a Nation will be setting a legal precedent. We will saying yes to the systematic destruction of the Constitution and Bill of Rights engineered by Vice President Cheney and President Bush, and will be formally agreeing to the end of American Democracy. We, as Americans, will be giving our approval and consent to the idea that the Vice President and President are indeed above the law, that they are in fact a law unto themselves.

    The Cheney and Bush Administration has openly boasted about their supposed right to break the law. This administration has claimed that it has the right to spy on Americans without a warrant. This administration has decided that it has no obligation to respond to any lawful subpoenas from Congress, and that it may invoke Presidential signing statements to declare its right to ignore any Federal Law. This administration thinks it has the authority to arbitrarily strip any American of his or her citizenship.

    This administration has illegally declared that it has supreme overriding authority. The Vice President and the President have accumulated and consolidated unprecedented power that has replaced the co-equal system of checks and balances mandated by the Constitution with a new Imperial Presidency. This imperialism has given the President far-reaching powers that our founding fathers would quickly recognize as tyranny.

    The illegitimate authority of this newly constructed imperial Presidency ? this Supreme Commander-in-Chief created by Cheney and Bush ? has replaced the Rule-of-Law based on the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

    Our system of co-equal branches of government, the unique and revolutionary principle of American Democracy, the great leap of faith that people could actually govern themselves, has been subverted. It is now almost dead.

    America, the world?s oldest Democracy, is an astonishingly brilliant system of government based on carefully crafted and refined checks and balances between co-equal branches of government. The civil liberties given birth by this revolutionary form of government over 200 years ago are rapidly ending.

    Our political elite, those we have entrusted to be the people?s representatives, have failed. Their oath of office, to protect and defend the Constitution, has been disregarded in the light of political power.

    When we have a Vice President and President who openly declare they are above the law of the land, above the Constitution, how can we as Americans pretend that we live in a Democracy?

    If We The People do not take action to demand accountability in the form of Impeachment, we become passive accomplices to the silent overthrow of American Democracy.

    It is now time for the People to become leaders. We must teach our elected representatives to act in accordance with their oath of office and effect immediate impeachment of those who have committed these crimes against the Constitution.

    If we do not act now we are all personally endorsing, sanctioning, and indeed celebrating, the end of the Bill of Rights, Habeas Corpus and all other fundamental civil liberties and democratic values. Such values have been the foundation of American Democracy for over 200 years.

    The media-anointed ?front-running? Presidential Candidates simply do not have the courage to tell the American public the truth.

    If we elect any candidate from any party without first impeaching this outlaw Administration, we endorse and elect a new Imperial President of the United States. This cements into place a failed Democracy whose citizens have passively chosen to relinquish the cherished freedoms millions have fought and died to protect.

    Do we really believe that we can trust the next President to give back the dramatically expanded power of the Unitary Executive? Once absolute power has been granted, it is never relinquished voluntarily.

    We need to stop kidding ourselves. Let us summon 1% of the courage that those who landed on the beaches of Normandy had and recognize what is painfully obvious to the rest of the World: we are rapidly losing every fundamental freedom we thought we were fighting the ?terrorists? to protect.

    In six short years, the Vice President and the President have actively conspired to commit the most grievous crimes against our Constitution and the personal freedoms it guarantees. America has gone from being perhaps the most admired and respected nation on the planet to becoming the ultimate rogue state. The world?s only remaining superpower is now feared as the greatest threat to world peace.

    The Constitutional system of checks and balances that are the foundation of our civil liberties have been gutted. America has become the only ?civilized? state to declare its right to arbitrarily imprison, torture, and spy on anyone it chooses to, including its own citizens. We are also the only state to officially declare a right to wage lethal preemptive war on any nation that dares to threaten its exclusive superpower status.

    Every democratic nation has the government that is created by active participation of its citizens. Impeachment is the only option for us, as Americans, to effectively wake ourselves up from this collective nightmare. It is the only way for us to demonstrate to ourselves and the rest of the world that we are the Americans we like to believe we are. We need to demonstrate that we actually can summon the courage to live up to our self-proclaimed ideals.

    Enough is enough. This is NOT allowed.

    There is a lot of very good news that makes me tremendously hopeful that we as a nation are starting to wake up and insist our Congressional representatives act to make Impeachment happen now.

    Our corporate controlled media works very hard to portray impeachment as a fringe issue not worthy of serious consideration, even though polls show the negative approval ratings of this administration have surpassed all historic records. Reputable national polling shows that 54% want the Vice President impeached and 45% of voters favor Impeachment for the President.

    We The People are indeed waking up ? we have learned not to rely on the old top-down corporate media dinosaurs to tell us what they have decided is ?the news.? Fortunately, We The People have an amazing network of online alternative information sources. These rapidly evolving reality-based, user-driven, independent media sites have made us our own news editors.

    We The People are now realizing that we must act now to take the initiative to demand that our elected representatives in Congress initiate immediate Impeachment hearings. From the bottom-up, we have begun the process to restore the Rule-of-Law in America.

    Here?s what we can all do now to take effective action:


    Join your fellow Americans and Congressman Robert Wexler (D-FL), a member of the House Judiciary committee, by signing his petition that asks all other members of the Judiciary Committee to join his call for immediate hearings on the Impeachment of the Vice President.

    Support and donate to these Impeachment Groups:

    Impeach Bush

    The World Can't Wait

    Code Pink

    Support and donate to my campaign and tell your friends.

    Support and donate to the other Presidential candidates who are also publicly and courageously calling for Impeachment.

    Let the other Presidential Candidates know why you are not willing to support or contribute to their campaign: that you refuse to support anyone who isn?t willing to tell the truth to the American people about what has happened to their Democracy.

    Join together to organize and petition your Congressperson to be true to their oath office: to uphold their most fundamental and sacred duty to protect and defend the Constitution by Impeaching the Vice President and President. Together we will restore the Rule-of-Law in America.

    Senator Mike Gravel
    Candidate for President
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's amazing how the same "rule of law" republicans who tried to railroad Clinton from office, over a personal indicretion, are the ones who gave bush/cheney everything they asked for, ignoring the rule of law the entire time.
    It smells like a conspiracy to me. The Dems got their marching orders from the people in 2004 but seemed to think change could wait until they won the presidency in 2008.
    Pelosi was a big disappointment when she took impeachment off the table.
    I agree with Gravel's sentiments here but it's not going to happen.
    I believe the Clintons are our best hope for the constitution to survive, albeit tattered and torn. What they went through before has made them strong. Obama is a nice guy but has no idea what he'd be up against if he tried to go against the anti-american republican machine.
    Gore could also be a decent president but the Clinton's are our best bet.

    Long live the constitution!
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    Gus

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    Red face

    Don't you think that it is time for a fresh perspective on things? 20 years thus far of a Bush or a Clinton. Smells much like a monarchy to me. Besides, watch these videos and tell me if you feel the Clinton's are the best choice for this country.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8aopATYyw"]YouTube - The Shocking Video Hillary Does NOT Want You To See! (1of2)[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMfUajhL24I"]YouTube - The Shocking Video Hillary Does NOT Want You To See! (2of2)[/ame]
    A couple breezes of fresh air:
    [nomedia]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvSeegPTyPA[/nomedia]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLepLeJEWpE"]YouTube - Mike Gravel vs Hillary Clinton on Iraq/Iran[/ame]

    RESEARCH YOUR CANDIDATES! Don't fall for MEDIA BRAINWASHING!
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y33NMRia-x4"]YouTube - Hillary is Part of the Military Industrial Complex[/ame]
    Ignorant masses who support Clinton, Obama, Edwards, Romney, Mccain, etc. Dont you realize nothing will change when they get into office? Vote for Ron Paul, or Mike Gravel the only sane moral people who will restore the constitution instead of turning America into a police state.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zteunEcP5-U"]YouTube - Revealed - Bush was planning to attack Iraq from the start[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9iYSdmRbpQ"]YouTube - Mike Gravel: Hillary Clinton is Propaganda[/ame]

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