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I wish I knew how these people know which schools are supposedly the "thug" schools and which are so much worse than the rest.

You know Coeburn Cane you bring incidents that are isolated and happen every now and then, such as the Clintwood and Rye Cove incident and no you cannot call them thugs but this is nothing compared to what went on at the "U." Sure I guess there are some good things that go on there....but..not with the football program.
I respect you sticking up for your team but I am just backing up my allogations with facts..read on.

Controversies and Scandals
The University of Miami has also experienced some degree of controversies, scandals and incidents which at times have led to NCAA sanctions, suspensions, and negative publicity for the university.

1980s: Luther Campbell's "pay for play"
A long-time booster of Hurricanes Football, 2 Live Crew member and local philanthropist Luther Campbell was said to have been behind what was referred to as a "pay-for-play" system, which involved cash rewards for things such as touchdowns and big hits. His ties to the program were at one point so close that former Hurricanes coach Dennis Erickson used to occasionally call upon Campbell as an intermediary when he was having a problem with his players.

1989-1995: Pell Grant scandal and Self-Imposed/NCAA sanctions
In 1994, Tony Russell, a former University of Miami academic advisor, pleaded guilty to helping more than 80 student athletes, 57 of whom were football players, falsify Pell Grant applications in exchange for kickbacks from the players themselves. The scandal dated all the way back to 1989 and secured more than $220,000 in federal grant money. In late 1995, the NCAA concluded that, in addition to the fraudulent Pell Grants facilitated by Mr. Russell, the university had also provided or allowed over $400,000 worth of other, improper payments to Miami football players. The NCAA also found that the university had failed to wholly implement its drug testing program, and permitted three football student-athletes to compete without being subject to the required disciplinary measures specified in the policy. Finally, the NCAA concluded, the university had lost institutional control over the football program.
Miami lost seven scholarships as a result of a self-imposed sanction in 1995, and another 24 scholarships were disallowed by the NCAA over the next two years, but Miami avoided the so-called "death penalty." As a result of the scandal, Sports Illustrated in the summer of 1995 argued in a controversial cover story that Miami should shut down its football program.

2005: 7th Floor Crew
In 2004, an informal hip hop music group called the 7th Floor Crew, allegedly comprised of several UM students, including a few football players, and named for the 7th floor of UM's Pearson Residential College, recorded a rap song. The song ultimately fell into the hands of national media in 2005, including ESPN and Sports Illustrated. Sung to the beat of Aaliyah's "If Your Girl Only Knew", the song's lyrics are filled with what were considered lewd sexual references. Following ESPN's coverage of the song and the role of several UM football players in creating it, the university issued a statement condemning its lyrical content.

2006: FIU Brawl
Main article: Miami-FIU brawl
On October 14, 2006, in the first meeting of cross-town programs, Miami and the Florida International Golden Panthers brawled after a PAT.

FIU cornerback Chris Smith wrestled Miami holder Matt Perelli to the ground after the kick and appeared to punch him in the chin. Another FIU cornerback, Marshall McDuffie, Jr., kicked Perelli in the head.[22] Miami players, including Calais Campbell, came to Perelli's defense, separating Miami and FIU players. FIU's Lionel Singleton punched Campbell in the back of the helmet, which was quickly followed by retaliation from both teams, escalating the fight to a bench-clearing brawl. Miami's Anthony Reddick swung his helmet at FIU players and Miami's Brandon Meriweather kicked an FIU player. FIU's A'Mod Ned, who was injured, came onto the field and swung at Miami players with his crutches. The fight lasted five minutes, and Miami-Dade County police had to come on the field to restore order.

The next day, 31 players from both schools "? 18 from FIU, 13 from Miami "? were handed one-game suspensions.

Like I have said before, if you are going to argue, state the FACTS and back them up, not heresay.
That is my answer and that is why I call Miami a "Thug U!"

Someone please prove to me that it is not!

the "thug u" nonsense came about in the 80's and that was as a result of the fiesta bowl with the fatigues.....and the pell grant and subsequent probation was the end of that......but whats funny is that luther campbell (who wasnt a student) offered bonuses to kids for good play on the field.......again while against NCAA regulations.....hardly thuggish behavior

pell grants.....again.....not something they should have done......but not thuggish behavior

why doesnt anybody call F$U "thug u" when they have players who write bad checks.....go on sneaker shopping sprees that are against NCAA regulations.....and have players breaking into another players apartment and stealing things from them

how about OSU* what about moronice clarett??

a group of kids who wrote a rap song is in no way thuggish behavior

the fight against FIU was disgusting......but it isnt any worse than choking a qb on the field......or stomping somebodys leg on the field

so arent the schools involved in those such incidents called "thug u"

the "u" in "thug u" refers to the word "university" which encompasses the entire school......no UM student has ever gone on a terminator type killing spree on campus

yet VT still isnt called "thug u" by anybody......and if there has ever been any act of thuggish behavior by a student from one university......thats it

hows that for FACTS

Wahoo, I applaud your loyalty but your statements are matters of the heart and is irrelevent. Once again you are stating your opinion on the facts that I brought up. Nothing you say is worth argueing over since you have based your arguement on opinion.
How can anything be nonsense if proven facts back up an arguement?
This is my opinion. If Luther paid guys for good hits or anything else, I am pretty sure other monies were used to recruit. Where there is smoke there is fire! That is just my opinion.
Yes, all those schools you mentioned had Isolated incidents because you have only stated ONE incident and these schools have never even been close to getting the death-penalty like Miami almost received.
The only reason Miami and Alabama did not receive a death penalty is because of their tradition and money.
I guess its apples and oranges.

recruiting violations are not thuggish behavior

miami didnt get probation for thuggish behavior.....they got put on probation for monetary violations of the NCAA regulations

shooting up a classroom building and killing 30+ people is

Spock to Kirk.."Fascinating!"

Not to mention Luther Campbell is one of the most respected members in the Miami community. The dude pretty much IS peanut football. Hes done alot more good than he ever did bad.

If you wanna talk about labeling a school for thugs, without a doubt its Penn State but their coach is loved and they have too many white guys to be thugs. I swear, theres a silent N in the word thug somewhere.

Mega, please show me this information on Penn State. I would love to read about that. You see all that is good about Paterno, I wanna see something bad. Give me the websites.
Campbell does do a lot of good for his community, unfortunately, he has does some bad things as well and you know that is all you are going to see.
You can do all the good in the world, but, screw up one time, and that is all anyone remembers.
Once again, send me those websites.
As far as the silent "N" word.....explain please!!!

Since 2004, Penn State Player Arrest Records:

1. Maurice Humphrey, Arrest, Assault & Prison Guilty
2. Maurice Humphrey - Guilty Probation Violation
3. Maurice Humphrey - Fake ID Probation Violation Guilty
4. Tyler Reed, Drunk In Public Summary Charge Guilty
5. Andrew Richardson, Drunk In Public Summary Charge Guilty
6. Rashard Casey, Arrest, Assault, Dismissed
7. Anwar Phillips, Arrest, Assault, Dismissed
8. T.C. Cosby, Arrest, Assault, Acquitted
9. Michael Robinson, Ice-Rink Fight Summary Charge
10. Lavon Chisley, Arrest, Sexual Assault, Dismissed
11. Paul Jefferson, Drunk In Public Summary Charge Guilty
12. Ed Johnson, Ice-rink fight Summary Charge Guilty
13. Matthew Rice, Ice-rink fight Summary Charge Guilty
14. John Bronson, Arrest, Assault, Dismissed
15. Jeremy Kapinos, Drunk In Public Summary Charge
16. Tom McHugh, Hitting A Woman Summary Charge
17. Tony Johnson, Arrest, DUI Guilty
18. Richard Cheek, Arrest, Stolen Credit Card Guilty
19. Yaacov Yisreal, DUI, Guilty
20. Dan Drogan, DUI Leaving Accident, Guilty
21. Dethrell Garcia, DUI, Guilty
22. Scott Paxson, Criminal Mischief, Summary Charge Guilty
23. E.Z. Smith, Drunk In Public Summary Charge Guilty
24. R.J. Luke, Arrest Assault, Acquitted
25. Damone Jones, Unknown Charges Dismissed From School
26. Mike Sothern, Terroristic Disorderly Criminal Mischief Guilty
27. Mike Sothern Criminal Mischief Expelled Guilty
28. EZ Smith Criminal Mischief Summary Charge Guilty
29. Scott Paxson Criminal Mischief Summary Charge Guilty
30. Tyler Reed Criminal Mischief Summary Charge Guilty
31. Andrew Richardson Criminal Mischief Summary Charge Guilty
32. Ed Johnson Sexual Misconduct Arrest Guilty
34. Dan Connor Criminal Mischief Phone Summary Charge Guilty
35. Nolan MCready Criminal Mischief Phone Summary Charge Guilty
36. Jim Kanuch Criminal Mischief Summary Phone Charge Guilty
37. Paul Cronin Drunk In Public Summary Charge Guilty
38. Scott Paxson Sexual Assault & Aggravated Indecent Charge Guilty
39. Francis Claude Arrest At Bar Disorderly Conduct Guilty
40. Ed Johnson Failed Drug Test Condition Of Parole Guilty
41. Lavon Chisley Murder Charge Guilty Life Sentence
42. Anthony P. Scirrotto burglary, criminal trespass, criminal solicitation, simple assault, harassment. Trial Pending
43. Chris I. Baker burglary, criminal trespass criminal trespass, disorderly conduct, harassment. Trial Pending
44. Jerome A. Hayes criminal trespass, disorderly conduct, harassment. Dismissed
45. Justin King criminal trespass, disorderly conduct, harassment. Dismissed
46. Tyrell A. Sales criminal trespass, disorderly conduct, harassment Dismissed
47. Lydell R. Sargeant criminal trespass, disorderly conduct, harassment Dismissed
48. Andrew Quarless-Underage Drinking Guilty
49. Willie Harriot-Underage Drinking Guilty
50. Austin Scott Rape, Drugs Trial
51. Joe Suhey Underage Drinking Guilty
52. Ryan Breen Underage Drinking Guilty,
53. Joe Paterno Road Rage No Charges
54. Chris Baker felony aggravated assault, simple assault, disorderly conduct, summary harassment and stalking, Pending.
55. Navarro Bowman felony aggravated assault, simple assault, disorderly conduct, summary harassment and stalking, Pending.
56. Knowledge Timmons, disorderly conduct and defiant trespass, Pending

Daaaammmmmmmn!!!! Where did you get this info......Wow!