Pinkston

[imported_Counts]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sportsman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blue52</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What happens if hes 18?? I dont know his age, just curious what would happen if something like this did happen and the kid was of age </div></div>

From what I understand, it's a whole lot tougher for custody change to come into play, since he would no longer be a juvenile. It couldn't be ruled on in juvenile court. </div></div>


(8) For purposes of transfer, VHSL does not recognize student emancipation by age 18
or through marriage

[imported_Sportsman]

No but custody is if you are of legal age.

[imported_blue52]

Thanks Counts.

[Sat_morning_QB]

From the understanding in talking to Mr Pinkston his Uncle and cousins during and after the game here is what's going on. Yes he lived with his Grandmother in BSG for many years and His Mother never gave up her Parental rights, just let them live with her mother in BSG while she lives in Norton. Whatever happened happened in Big Stone Gap that's where that stays.
He, his Mother and family came to a family understanding in that his Mother is giving up her parental right's to her Brother who has already petitioned the court's for legal guardianship of Mr. Pinkston and this was when he moved to Norton. This would be standard per the courts as his Uncle would be his court appointed Guardian and he has to change residences from one town to another to live with his court appointed Guardian because he is a minor, which makes him eligible in guidlines set forth in prior VHSL rulings in their handbook and the past.

"But, considering he has lived with his grandmother for years and now decides to go live with his mother they do have a fight against the VHSL ruling because that is his legal guardian. In doing that that would not make the other brother not able to play since he has been established since the 9th grade."

Only if grandmaw moves, same reason you can't move to JIB without sitting out and play. The way it used to worded, whoever the kid lived with had to move.

[imported_Counts]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sat_morning_QB</div><div class="ubbcode-body">From the understanding in talking to Mr Pinkston his Uncle and cousins during and after the game here is what's going on. Yes he lived with his Grandmother in BSG for many years and His Mother never gave up her Parental rights, just let them live with her mother in BSG while she lives in Norton. Whatever happened happened in Big Stone Gap that's where that stays.
He, his Mother and family came to a family understanding in that his Mother is giving up her parental right's to her Brother who has already petitioned the court's for legal guardianship of Mr. Pinkston and this was when he moved to Norton. This would be standard per the courts as his Uncle would be his court appointed Guardian and he has to change residences from one town to another to live with his court appointed Guardian because he is a minor, which makes him eligible in guidlines set forth in prior VHSL rulings in their handbook and the past. </div></div>



That is what I had heard for the most part and I DO NOT see how he will be elagable if it was cort ordered yes
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">(12) In cases of court-ordered custody, a copy of the appropriate legal custody document,
signed by the presiding judge of the appropriate jurisdiction, shall be submitted to
the Executive Director for review and approval. Approval is contingent upon the receiving
school's principal attesting that there is no evidence that the transfer was for athletic and/or
activity purposes. A student, 18 years of age or older, who would be subject to a transfer of
custody if he/she were less than 18 years of age may petition the Executive Director through
the student's principal for eligibility, and the Executive Director has authority to grant such
eligibility immediately. </div></div>


If it was not then No

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> (5) The appointment of a legal guardian will not render a student immediately eligible
in the school to which he/she transfers except in the case of the death of his/her parents,
parent or guardian, and then only if the new guardianship is made legally and without delay.
A student who has neither parents nor legal guardian must meet 28-6-2 (1) in the school to
which he/she transfers, unless the family with whom he/she lives has been given custody
ordered by a court of competent jurisdiction in which case he/she becomes eligible immediately.</div></div>



If someone can tell me HOW Norton is getting around the above verbage I would say thankyou very much and stop posting on the subject

[yankeefanz4life]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TheSkulls</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: yankeefanz4life=</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
As far as "second" chances, well what ever happened to standing up and taking responsibility for your actions, paying for what you do, and honestly I don't see that that has happened yet. This young man had an excellent chance at DB only a short time ago and completely BLEW IT. DB football program and playing for them could have advanced his efforts to better himself and continue his "sports career", getting him attention and notice from some pretty big name colleges, but now the most attention this young man will get is right here on this forum. That says quite a bit to me, but then what do I know? I am just a parent trying to teach a son to take responsibility for his actions and try to make good choices both on and off the field. </div></div>

First off, his "chance" at DB was never a go and he never "blew" it over there. Their coach called Phil Robbins and Phil told him what was going on and he never gave him a shot, so NO he didn't blow it over there. Know what the hell you are talking about before spouting off at the mouth.

Also, step off your high horse sweety because I doubt your son is a saint either so just take a step back and chill out. </div></div>

No high horse here my dear. And well I know from an assistant coach at DB what went down in the office over there, so don't presume you know everything. Like my information, yours is also hearsay as neither of us were there. And as far as my son goes I know for a fact he is far from being a Saint, however I make every effort to ensure he is not involved in certain acts and well if he had broken the rules that WERE broken his playing would be in no one's hands but my own. My non saintly son must pay for every wrong choice he makes, and must work very hard for what he gets, he knows that he must follow the rules and do the right thing, does he always do this? NO!! But he knows there is a price to pay when he doesn't. I am looking at this from a Parent's point of view, something you fail to see, if you had a child and you were trying to teach him or her that for every thing you do there are and will be results for those actions. It's about saying to a kid, no matter how gifted athletically, that if you engage in activities on a regular basis that you know are wrong and you fail to go by the rules you will be punished for those actions. This situation only tells him that if you fail at one school then shop around until you find someone who will take you.

We are not talking about something that happened last year and he missed a year of playing and did his time. Were that the case I would be the first person to say give it a chance and see what he can do to improve and see how well he learned from his mistakes. We ARE talking about something that happened recently and you can not stop years and years of behavior in a matter of weeks.

So coming off my high horse now what I am saying (for the 100th time) is sports should NOT be a consideration at this point. It should be about getting this young man's life together and making sure his behavior changes and the ONLY way this is ever going to happen is for him to finally see that he (or anyone else) can not break "the rules" in this manner and not be held accountable for it. Take some time dear to look at this situation from a parents point of view rather than a fans.

[centennialdawg]

This has got to be the most stupid thread of the year on this board. Sure, its a hot topic, but it is also a kid you all are talking about.

[Xknight52]

yup i agree

[Diets17]

This kid needs something to be a part of right now. The more time he has to do nothing, the more he will get deeper into whatever problem it is that he may have. I'd say it's a pretty good bet that he isn't getting the guidance he needs at home.

Just giving an example, maybe things have changed more than I thought in the past 10 years or so. Though when I was in high school it seemed like far more than half of the kids who didn't play sports were developing bad habits in their free time. That was few and far between with the kids who actually played. Might have something to do about being a part of something, being on a team... maybe having people around you who cares about you. Maybe those other young men who have been there playing will set an example, offer their friendship. I'd say it's safe to say there aren't many saints in the halls of the high schools anywhere you will go. Kids and young adults do stupid things, some learn from their mistakes, other repeat them throughout their lives. There has obviously been something that's been missing from this kids life. Some sort of guidance, and authority. He's obviously not gonna get that by sitting at house, because if he was going to we wouldn't be talking about this. I'd say theres a pretty good chance he's going to be surrounding himself with good people within that football program.

So let the kid play, how can a bunch of people who don't know the whole story know what's best for this kid. They don't, and the bottom line is most here has another agenda. Let's think about the kid before we think about W's and L's of the team you root for.