Unc@vt

**DJP** · October 30th, 2009, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by Biggin

mcelroy hasnt thrown a TD pass in two games, he has been playing terrible. he is not a QB that bama is satisfied with at this point, he is capable of playing great, like he did at the beginning, but not right now, he will play good against LSU tho, mark it

the SEC is nowhere to compare to when talking about offensive numbers

speaking of bama and quarterbacks(off topic ofcourse)...what do you think about phillip sims biggin?

**imported_Guest** · October 30th, 2009, 02:31 AM

Originally Posted by gcdevil22

Tyrod Taylor - 141 attempts...56% completion...9 TD, 3 INT...1300 yds

and for the top QBs in the SEC...

Tim Tebow - 132 attempts...63% completion...8 TD, 4 INT...1100 yds

Greg McElroy - 202 attempts...59% completion...9 TD, 3 INT...1400 yds

Joe Cox - 209 attempts...57% completion...13 TD, 9 INT...1500 yds

Jonathon Crompton - 213 attempts...57% completion...14 TD, 10 INT...1400 yds

Jevan Snead - 194 attempts...52% completion...14 TD, 11 INT...1400 yds

Christian Ponder - 257 attempts...70% completion...12 TD, 1 INT...2200 yds

**hoard** · October 30th, 2009, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by Ironlung

Nice to see you back right in time Drew. That kid ****ing sucks and anybody saying anything else is a ****ed fool. Is that really something you want to brag about, pass efficiency when he's been over 50% completion 2 times this year? I guess you noticed but Georgia Tech is also in the top 10 in qb efficiency. You ****ed your pants when that kid commited and I knew it then and said it, he's not a qb. He's a wr playing qb. He'd only completed 69 passes this year. With that running game and that defense (even though they were pretty bad at the first of the year), the 2 biggest obstacles they have are the two I mentioned before. Stienspring is a joke and Taylor is not a qb. Below are his top 10 passer efficiency numbers for the year.

9-20 against Bama for 91 yards
9-19 against Marshall for 161 yards
12-27 against Nebraska for 192 yards
4-9 against Miami for 92 yards
22-40 against Duke for 359 yards
8-12 against BC for 206 yards
1-7 agaist GT for 51 yards
11-23 for 161 against NC tonight

You're off a little on your stat lines....looks like you listed the OPPOSING QBs stats for Duke and GT.

DUKE: 17 of 22 for 327 yds, 2 TDs
GT: 10 of 14 for 159 yds 1 TD and 2 Int (one of which a DLineman batted it straight up in the air and the other a hail mary at the end of the 1st Half). Also had 63 rushing and 1 TD.

The kid has the tools to be a good QB, he just has crap for an OC and QB coach.

**collegetrumpet2010** · October 30th, 2009, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by DJP

no offense but tenn is down in knoxville playing in the SEC, esp lately, VT is in the acc layin some big eggs, esp tonight

but your right the QB def isn't the problem

They hung with Florida and Alabama but outside of the SEC, losing to UCLA isn't much better than VT losing to UNC. Not a knock on the Vols.

Though that fumble really cost VT the game at the end, Tyrod Taylor really screwed himself over.

I'm not giving up on VT but I do know that they obviously will not go to the Orange Bowl. Lets hope they can win a bowl game even if it is a crappy bowl.

**1inStripes** · October 30th, 2009, 08:08 AM

Lets not forget about the quality of defenses in the SEC vs. the ACC when comparing these QBs as well. Snead has the most upside of those listed in the SEC, but Mallet keeps looking better and better on the passing side as well. 15 TDs to 3 picks. 1900 yards pass also.

**CoeburnCane** · October 30th, 2009, 09:17 AM

If I'm an ACC coach and you tell me I need one of the ACC QB's to win a ballgame in the waning minutes, I'm either shooting myself, or gambling and taking Ponder/Harris, hoping that they don't make a crucial mistake. There's no sure-fire winning QB in the conference...there are talented ones, but no sure-fire guys right now. I don't care who's leading the conference in anyone category, you can watch them play and the proof is right in front of your eyes.

I will say this--I don't think he deserves it with 10 INT's already, but Jacory's the only ACC QB on the O'Brien Award watch list at this point in the season. I think that's based off of what he'll become more than what he is at this point...pure speculation.

Oh--and to but $.02 into Lung/Drew's Taylor debate...the reason why a bunch of people were so high on Taylor was because they though (just like Marcus Vick) that he was the next coming of Michael Vick, and the sheer thought of getting a Tidewater QB in that same mold makes VT fans have an orgasmic reaction. But--Taylor nor Marcus haven't even come close to matching what MV1 did in his time at Blacksburg--let's be honest, no QB since him has. It's much the same reason you heard fans pan QB's like Sean Glennon & Bryan Randall when they had down moments--they wanted MV1 back.

**TheBeast** · October 30th, 2009, 09:57 AM

I think that's based off of what he'll become more than what he is at this point...pure speculation.

I guess he will get the Nobel next year then. couldn't help it you stepped in that one up to your waist.

**CoeburnCane** · October 30th, 2009, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by TheBeast

I guess he will get the Nobel next year then. couldn't help it you stepped in that one up to your waist.

O.........K........

**Ironlung** · October 30th, 2009, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by hoard

You're off a little on your stat lines....looks like you listed the OPPOSING QBs stats for Duke and GT.

DUKE: 17 of 22 for 327 yds, 2 TDs
GT: 10 of 14 for 159 yds 1 TD and 2 Int (one of which a DLineman batted it straight up in the air and the other a hail mary at the end of the 1st Half). Also had 63 rushing and 1 TD.

The kid has the tools to be a good QB, he just has crap for an OC and QB coach.

You're right. I had those 2 flip flopped when looking through the box scores. I just can't believe you guys are actually still trying to pass him off as a qb.

**Ironlung** · October 30th, 2009, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by CoeburnCane

Oh--and to but $.02 into Lung/Drew's Taylor debate...the reason why a bunch of people were so high on Taylor was because they though (just like Marcus Vick) that he was the next coming of Michael Vick, and the sheer thought of getting a Tidewater QB in that same mold makes VT fans have an orgasmic reaction. But--Taylor nor Marcus haven't even come close to matching what MV1 did in his time at Blacksburg--let's be honest, no QB since him has. It's much the same reason you heard fans pan QB's like Sean Glennon & Bryan Randall when they had down moments--they wanted MV1 back.

BINGO! Randall's the best qb they've ever had their and 1 out of 1000 VT fans realize that. Vick was the best athlete, Randall the best qb.