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    Re: Stupid Move IMO

    If any conference, other than maybe the Big East, is willing to concede ND's contract plus give them a fair share, that conference isn't very bright.
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    Re: Stupid Move IMO

    that's the sticking point...gotta see if there's a compromise that benefits both parties...if the ACC were willing to do both, Notre Dame would already be in the conference
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    Re: Stupid Move IMO

    Texas knew they wouldn't be able to keep the Longhorn network as it is if they joined the Pac 12. They felt they had a better chance of that in the ACC. There were numerous articles coming out of Texas preferring the ACC.

    ND is basically the same with their NBC deal, I also read where someone from ND was quoted saying if they are forced to join a conference, the ACC would be their first choice.

    So I would imagine their is at least a small chance of ND joining the ACC. Texas, however, will probably be staying put.

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    Re: Stupid Move IMO

    Here is a few lines taken from an article on ESPN today involving conference expansion.

    According to a source close to Notre Dame, the Irish's first choice is to remain as an independent in football and stay in the Big East in all other sports.

    If the Irish decide they can't remain as a football independent then the choice would be to pursue the ACC before the Big Ten.


    Here is the link: Big East, Big 12 talking possible merger, sources say - ESPN

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    Re: Stupid Move IMO

    Quote Originally Posted by gcdevil22 View Post
    saying there's a less than zero chance that ND goes to the ACC is pretty silly considering they were in talks with the ACC when Texas was being discussed...what it will take for ND to come to the ACC is the ACC would have to concede Notre Dame's NBC contract as well as give them a full share of the new tv contract that the ACC would undoubtedly get...and then the ACC would add UConn as their final 16th team

    That's the first I've ever heard anywhere of ND being in discussions with anyone from the ACC or any other conference. If ND joins a conference it'll be the Big 10.
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    Re: Stupid Move IMO

    then you havent read this:

    There have been a couple rumors floating around that Notre Dame only has eyes for the ACC. While the conference has nothing geographically or culturally in common with the Irish, there are a few important factors to consider.

    - The ACC is an East Coast entity. Call it "East Coast bias" if you will, but things just seem to get more ink when they happen near the Atlantic. By joining the ACC, the Irish would be thrust even further into the eyes of the nation. Unfortunately for us, this probably means even more incoherent babbling from Lou Holtz about Notre Dame's imminent return to glory. You've been warned.

    - The ACC doesn't have a network. Notre Dame likes its current TV deal with NBC and will do nothing to change that. While a merger with the Big Ten would be tricky, considering the media behemoth that is the Big Ten network, the ACC offers a now smaller media deal that is almost certainly in line to be renegotiated soon. The Irish are a big enough catch for the ACC—and nationally televised Notre Dame home games are a big enough gain for the conference—that the two sides could work out an agreement to keep Notre Dame home games under the watchful eye of NBC.
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    - The Midwest is dying. Recent census numbers show*that the Midwest is slowly losing population, while the Southeast and East Coast are doing as well as ever. By aligning itself with a booming area of the country, the Irish could easily avoid anchoring itself to a dwindling talent base that already has a few heavy hitters at the front of the buffet line.

    Despite years of talk about how well Notre Dame fits with the Big Ten, the rivalries that are preserved, and the history that the football power shares with the Big Ten, the realities of the modern world look to be conspiring against the Big Ten in the short term. If Notre Dame joins a conference in the near future, it looks increasingly likely that the conference will be the ACC.

    Notre Dame will quite possibly need a home very soon, and as much as it hurts this old Big Ten slappy to say it: while the Big Ten seems like a great fit because of the shared past, the ACC seems like the best fit for the future.

    Notre Dame To....ACC? Why the Irish Might Break Big Ten Hearts | Bleacher Report
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    Re: Stupid Move IMO

    or this...

    Notre Dame has long been seen as a perfect potential fit for the Big Ten Conference, but only in the eyes of those outside of Notre Dame. The university is an East Coast-oriented school in every way. The only thing Midwestern about Notre Dame is its physical address.

    Notre Dame men's basketball coach Mike Brey spoke at length with The News-Sentinel this summer about how valuable the Irish presence in cities such as New York, Philadelphia, and Washington, D.C. has been to the success of his program.

    “For the (Indiana) kids that come to Notre Dame, they want something different, something out of their natural region,” Brey said. “Those players (want) to play in New York City and Madison Square Garden.”

    Notre Dame needs to change with the times | The News-Sentinel - Fort Wayne IN
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    Re: Stupid Move IMO

    Oh. I thought you meant there was actually something to it. 1. Not some shit from the bleacher report which is a site composed of fans blogs and amateur writers. 2. A colum from Rivals on Why the Irish MIGHT do something. 3. That Pigskin Guru site looks like another fan ran site and the article (3 paragraphs) is just credited to "Contributing Writers" and is nothing but slam at ND saying that if they joined the ACC instead of the Big 10 or anyone else it'd be because they were afraid. 4. The News Sentinel out of Fort Wayne is the only one of those that is a news source or the only one of those that is an actual article with any kind of journalistic credibilty, anything other than an opinion, the only thing that has any kind of comment from anyone from ND, and still in no way shape or form mentions the ACC anywhere. So again, where is there anything other than slam articles and opinions of bloggers. Again, nothing there is saying anything about ND going to the ACC. If I posted on a blog saying they're joining the NAIA it'd amount to the same thing as what you've posted.
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