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    What would you do?

    http://www.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080...gender_slaying

    Colorado man charged in transgender slaying By P. SOLOMON BANDA, Associated Press Writer
    Thu Jul 31, 1:57 AM ET



    GREELEY, Colo. - A Colorado man is accused of fatally battering a sex partner with a fire extinguisher after discovering that his companion was a transgender woman.

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    Allen Ray Andrade, 31, faces several charges, including second-degree murder in the death of Justin Zapata, 20, who was known as Angie Zapata. The victim's bloodied, battered body was discovered in her apartment by her sister on July 17.

    Weld County District Attorney Ken Buck said Wednesday that he is considering filing first-degree murder charges and may prosecute the death as a hate crime.

    Andrade was arrested in the Denver suburb of Thornton, where he lives. Police responding to a noise complaint found him in Zapata's 2003 PT Cruiser, which had been missing.

    Andrade told investigators that he met Zapata through MocoSpace, a social network designed primarily for cell phone users, according to an arrest affidavit released by Greeley police. The two met July 15 and spent the day together.

    Andrade told investigators that Zapata performed oral sex on him but wouldn't let him touch her, according to the affidavit.

    He said he also spent the night at Zapata's apartment, but in separate beds. The next day, Zapata left Andrade alone in her apartment, and Andrade noticed several photographs that led him to question Zapata's gender.

    Andrade confronted Zapata when she got back. He grabbed Zapata's crotch area, felt male genitalia and became angry, the affidavit says. He told investigators that he took a fire extinguisher off a shelf, struck Zapata twice in the head and thought he "killed it."

    "It's disgusting," Greeley Police Chief Jerry Garner said of Andrade's reference to Zapata. "It's a horrible thing to say."

    Andrade told investigators he covered Zapata with a blanket and started gathering evidence he thought might link him to the crime when he heard gurgling sounds and noticed Zapata was sitting up. That's when he picked up the fire extinguisher and hit her again, police said. He left the scene in her car.

    Zapata's sister, Monica Murguia, couldn't be reached for comment on Andrade's arrest. She told Denver's KDVR-TV that Andrade deserved to remain behind bars forever.

    "He took a part of our heart, he did, when he killed her," she said after reading the arrest affidavit.

    A guard at the jail said information about whether Andrade had an attorney was not available. There was no telephone listing for him in Thornton.
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    Re: What would you do?

    The guy was still human, so let the dumbass rot in jail or fry.

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    Re: What would you do?

    Didn't work out too well for him - choosing the route he did.
    Now the entire nation knows he was with a dude, AND he's looking at prison for his actions.
    You'll shoot your eye out.

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    Re: What would you do?

    Yep, they do, and so does the prison population too.

    And to answer your question, I would do nothing, cause I would not allow myself to be in a position like that. After all, there is such a thing as monogamy. I have been happily married for over 30 years.

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    Re: What would you do?

    I would have to say that I agree with CentennialDawg on this matter. If an individual doesn't break the law then the law will not bother with the individual. It doesn't matter if this law is a moral law or a law set forth by society. Seems to me people have just lost a lot of common sense.

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    Re: What would you do?

    id have smacked that hebitch in the face, then left.
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    Re: What would you do?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NotSoSilentBob</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> He told investigators that he took a fire extinguisher off a shelf, struck Zapata twice in the head and thought he "killed it."

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    Re: What would you do?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">id have smacked that hebitch in the face, then left. </div></div>


    Sir, please tell me that you are joking. This is a human being, all human life should be treated equally. Just because an individual makes choices that you personally do not agree with doesn't mean that they should be assaulted. The type of language that you use is very disturbing, we should be accepting of all humans, their beliefs, race, ethnicity, and religious views.

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    Re: What would you do?

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SportsJunkie</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">id have smacked that hebitch in the face, then left. </div></div>


    Sir, please tell me that you are joking. This is a human being, all human life should be treated equally. Just because an individual makes choices that you personally do not agree with doesn't mean that they should be assaulted. The type of language that you use is very disturbing, we should be accepting of all humans, their beliefs, race, ethnicity, and religious views. </div></div>

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    Re: What would you do?

    I'd say 'it' got off lightly.
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