Lame duck strikes!

**sup-rbeast** · October 31st, 2008, 11:13 AM

Yep...cuz mommy and daddy won't be living the rest of her life..she will.

**sup-rbeast** · October 31st, 2008, 11:14 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No...and I don't favor partial-birth abortions either. But I do favor limits on firearms, and the death penalty...go figure. </div></div>

Are you not the very person who told me that you believe a baby is not a living being until it can live on its own out of the womb. </div></div>
Learn the difference between partial birth abortions and other types of abortions and you'll know that a partial birth abortion could most of the time survive outside the womb...it's further along.

**Shooter** · October 31st, 2008, 11:15 AM

So how far along do you think a woman has to be before abortion is illegal?

**PVVikeFan** · October 31st, 2008, 11:15 AM

A 13 year old gorl is capable of making that kind of decision??
And her parents have no rights in the matter??
Sad

**Shooter** · October 31st, 2008, 11:18 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yep...cuz mommy and daddy won't be living the rest of her life..she will. </div></div>

What about the father of the baby? No say so for him either?

**sup-rbeast** · October 31st, 2008, 11:18 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PVVikeFan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A 13 year old gorl is capable of making that kind of decision??
And her parents have no rights in the matter??
Sad </div></div>
Are those parents going to live her life...no. Maybe if the parents were more involved and didn't let MTV raise their kids, their daughters wouldn't end up in that predicament.

**sup-rbeast** · October 31st, 2008, 11:20 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shooter</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So how far along do you think a woman has to be before abortion is illegal? </div></div>
I think after the first trimester they shouldn't do em unless the mother's life is in danger. Many fathers not married to a mother could give a rat's a$$ about a baby...plus they aren't the mother.

**PVVikeFan** · October 31st, 2008, 11:22 AM

All I can say is a doctor and probably a judge would spend the rest of their short lives looking over their shoulder if it was my daughter. And I think you know me well enough to know that is absolutely 100% true.

**sup-rbeast** · October 31st, 2008, 11:24 AM

And I can respect that...but that doesn't necessiarily mean your view is right..it's just your opinion.

**Shooter** · October 31st, 2008, 11:24 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sup-rbeast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I think after the first trimester they shouldn't do em. Many fathers not married to a mother could give a rat's a$$ about a baby...plus they aren't the mother. </div></div>

You do know a baby has a heartbeat at 10 days dont you?

What about the fathers who DO care? Should they not have a say in the birth of their own child?

And in response to your "if the parents were involved" comment.... I had my first kid at 17, the mother 16....and I can tell you right now, my parents were very loving and involved with me. That has nothing to do with a younbg person getting pregnant.