"Why, Father?" My New 1Day Film!

[eidde]

Blimey! Someone said it at last...

[jb_617]

I think it needed to be done and frankly I don't give a crap what anyone thinks of me anymore.


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Bring it on you fakes!

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 06, 2005 08:15 AM: Message edited by: jb. ]</font>

[Tasty Fish Lips]

This thread now stands a good chance of becoming a debate about global crisis response.

I'm not going to say if I agree that this tsunami reaction is overblown or if it is completely justified. This is where I applaud Initiate - he made a film in a attempt to express his feelings about a very real subject. Although, again, an idea is not enough to carry a film. Execution through a strong cinematic narrative - a full understanding of the language of film is required.

If this were a forum for journalists or essayists, then we would be practicing our craft by writing our opinion on responses to different types of global crisis.

But it is a forum for filmmakers. I say, if you want to debate the idea of global crisis response - do so in a film.

The trick is, to do it without being preachy and make it something people will enjoy watching with engagement. It requires hardwork. You have to present both sides of the issue and, with subtlty, shed light on your perspective without cheap manipulation.

I don't expect everyone to do this though. I'm sure people will debate this in standard written posts. But it's something to think about - you have a passionate stance on relevant real issues in life? - why not make a film about it?

At least Initaite tried to do that.

[jb_617]

Well, my point was really about the lack of a response by the filmmaking community in general to world events that are not as emotive as recent ones. I mean we've had Farenheight 9/11 and Bowling For Columbine by Moore, I mean that's shooting fish in a barrel in my opinion. But when there's a really challenging subject that splits public opinion and generates some serious and contentious debate then we (and I include myself as a filmmaker in this, I'm just as bad as everyone else) seem to shy away.

As a for instance, typing "iraq" into imdb generates loads of documentary hits, typing abortion generates a few, but nothing after 1998. Are we becoming more and more afraid of exploring these issues? I don't know, it just seems to me that everything is getting so "on message" and "don't offend anyone" these days.

Or is it just that these issues have been done to death and aren't in the news anymore?


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I prefer difficult films. But I did laugh my arse off at "Dodgeball." last night.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 06, 2005 09:43 AM: Message edited by: jb. ]</font>

[Chance1234]

From yesterdays SP

I completely agree with everything that Martin said. The suggestions that
Shooters should offer a collective response to the catastrophe in S.E Asia is
at best misguided, at worst it is wallowing in phoney compassion of the most
hypocritical kind. Shelley suggests that "as a conscious, caring community,
it is time we all join forces". What on earth does this claptrap mean? I am
no industry veteran, but I have worked on films from low budget Brit flick to
mega budget Hollywood blockbuster and I can tell you that "aid" could hardly
come from a less appropriate source than the film industry, be it here or
abroad. On every film I have worked on, the unnecessary waste (be it of
energy, rubbish, money, food or even man hours) is so monumental as to be
immoral. If Shelley and others want to contribute to making the world a
better place since the Boxing Day disaster, then she should start with her
own industry. Suggestions for seminars or film projects as aid are insulting
- and I would like to predict that within 3 months not a single one of these
projects will be being discussed by Shooters as we will all have got bored by
then, and there will be no benefit from being seen to be "caring".

[jb_617]

Right on! Nobody wants to see good rubbish wasted.


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I wonder sometimes, I really do.

[Chance1234]

aside,

one project turned down by the 5YLAC machine was a script on abortion, for two reasons

1. The guys budget would of been gone in the opening scene , which was an explosion of an abortion clinic and all the people in blown to bits as some sort of statement.

2. The guy was a right nutter, scared the bezelgulbs out of everyone.

[Spunkey1pestic]

By: Right Nutter- You mean Conservative?
And the left Isn't?
Both extreme's are mental!

And As I have stated a trillion times before-
Being PC is stealing our freedom of expression and
driving us into a world of koas- In 10 years
Movies Like American History X, won't even get a second read-why??
because- We might offend somebody!

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ January 06, 2005 11:13 AM: Message edited by: Spunkey1pestic ]</font>

[Chance1234]

Think of the script writer in the Producers, then add a petrol can and lighter.

[jb_617]

It just means he's crazy, as in "He's a right nutter that one."


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The's neither use nor ornament lad.