digital vs film - the final word

[nextspielberg]

There's really no point in starting posts like this. Just as you wrote '...I think...'
This whole posts is just going to be 'I think this and I'm right' or 'I think that and you're wrong'. It's just going to be people's opinions. Unfortunately most will go onto the dv side and say film is dead (Us 'film' makers would just laugh at that). But what I'm trying to get at is you won't get anything but people's opinions on here. You know it's either DV or film, there's no point in fighting over it. Fighting over your opinion won't do anything. No one knows the future, we can only guess it.

[nextspielberg]

That's funny. Film is gone in ten years? Hahaha. You'd be lucky if film was gone in 100 years. DV technology may be changing, but so is film technology. Film Cameras will only get better. If you compare the picture quality of a movie shot on 35MM back in the 80's, you'll see that the quality has greatly improved since then for film and all film cameras. Another 10 years, 35MM will look even better. Right now, all the big films are shot on 35MM.
And when DV hits the picture quality of 35MM in about 50 years, what's that going to do for you?
You'll still be shooting your little home video movies on your dv cameras. The one's that no one sees.
A digital revolution in filmmaking will not do anything for us amateurs. Do you have the money to buy an High Definition DV camera like George Lucas? Anyways, you could probably argue as much as you want about this. My opinion won't change.

[no_one119]

Surely you only ever get people's opinion? Some people may be more qualified to answer specific questions but it's still their opinion.

We're trying to predict the future here, nobody can be certain about what it will be. Somebody in the undustry may have a better feel for how it's going to go but nobody can say "this is what's going to happen" for certain.

[miker]

Quote: "You'll still be shooting your little home video movies on your dv cameras. The one's that no one sees."

Speak for yourself!

Anyone seen the trailer for Final Fantasy yet AT THE CINEMA ??

Do you think that originated on film?!

Things have certainly come along way from The Last Starfighter circa 1985 ...

And, as I state at the top of the post, this thread is not to dicuss FORMATS but the very MEDIA that the movies ORIGINATE on. I can't see anyway that film is as scalable as digital, since digital has virtually no physical limitations. So, what, is 70mm gonna become the norm finally in a last attempt to stave off digital?

Yes, film is a very romantic medium, but economics, and shareholders are stronger.

Where the porn industry leads, the rest of the world follows ...

(paintings, books, magazines, internet, films, videos, dv ...)

So I think the final word should be

porn

[no_one119]

And what a great final word.

He's right you know. The porn industry leads the way in entertainment technology. You seen any feature films that use multi-angle shots. I've only seen a one and that was on the extras track.

[wageslave]

By saying that are you saying
-Porn is daring and filmically groundbreaking?
-Or cheap exploitation (in all senses of the word) is the future?
-Or are you just trying to be cynically funny?

If the first then I think you should get out more, and perhaps watch a few real films.
If the second then maybe you are right, so what do you want to do? Give in to that, and create more garbage?
if the 3rd then ha ha

Ive seen plenty of multi-angle shots (by that do you mean the same action repeatedly shown from a different camera angle?) in feature films, for example Mad Max.

Otherwise what do you mean?, Porn is the final word? I thought it was 'end'

[wageslave]

Pornographers are not innovative, none are. They are *all* boring and formulaic.
All they do is use every format available to publish material. They dont invent anything, and do nothing original. Ever.

[Chance1234]

you'd be surprised what the Porn industry has actually contributed to technology.

[miker]

it's economics again ...

print became very popular once the pornographers moved in.

same with the internet.

i'm not defending the porn industry, neither do i wish to be part of it.

but you cannot deny that porn is popular, and, yes, judging by recent films/tv general exploitation is the way things are headed. and no, i don't like that. but so long as ppl are stupid then they'll be happy to absorb the spin (the new hype).

so how many ppl are following Big Brother on tv ?

[wageslave]

Hello Chance

Would I? Perhaps you can tell me.