<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, this is how I was reading your OP: I superimposed the 24 single strokes of the entire lick over the 2 bars of 6/8 and realized the left hand is filling in the 'off beats' of the 8th note triplets. The trick is getting the accents (high-hat/kick)/(Wuhan/Kick) in tempo.Originally posted by got_a_match_grip?:
Maybe another way to say it is to count [out loud]the beat/groove as 6/8 [more slowly than the record tempo], ie:
1-2-3-4-5-6 [these are the 8th notes].
The RH will be on all 6 of these eighths, the LH will fill in the ghosts in between on the 16ths.
When it gets to that lick, accent these during the groove [still in 6/8] instead [count out loud]: [during each bar of 6]: the 1, the 3, & the 5 of both the bars, all are RH accents...be sure to keep the LH ghosting in between, keeping the same consistent tempo throughout for each phrase or bar.
[All 16ths; the LH will be 'swiping' the hats, the RH will be on the china. Everything else is alternating on sn].
Did this help any? [img]graemlins/thinking.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/wonder.gif[/img] [img]redface.gif[/img] ;-) [img]cool.gif[/img]
<font color="#a62a2a"><font size="1">[ September 13, 2005 01:52 PM: Message edited by: got_a_match_grip? ]</font></font>
I guess the balls now in my court to work it our on the kit at home instead of quitely trying to tap it out on my desk here at the cubicle farm
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Insomnia is a bear...second LASIK "tweeking" surgery yesterday. Took a val & it had my sleep cycle turned upside down.
You could consider the "6/8" as a two-bar phrase, or 1 bar of 12/8. I may have said that already. He then goes into alternating-singles of 6 groupings of 4 [or 3 of 8] in 16ths, still keeping/staying within the same overall click-pulse.
From an "odd" triplety [3's] groove [12/8] to accenting in six even groups of 4's [or 3 groups of 8's, & back into the "odd" [triplety] 12/8 again]...
Think of it [in 16ths] as a bar of triplets in 12/8, then going into a 16th note lick [3 groups of 8, which could also be subd' into 6 grps of 4] in the same tempo but accenting -
R l r L R L r l / R l r L R L r l / R l r L R L r l
- the 1st R's of each grp being on the crash [initially] or china [afterwards], the 3rd L [aka 2nd L in CAPS [accented], on the HH].
[That's as good as i can do w/out V's excellent mus-SW]... [img]wink.gif[/img]
Casey Scheuerell does a similar type of motif in the Jean-Luc Ponty tune "Imaginary Voyage pt 3" off "JLP Live" [rec'd. Dec '78 / rel. '79], I don't know which studio album it was orig on. It is a different feel in 6/8 phrase wise, more of a triplety 4/4, but similar in premise; the band goes into accenting 3 grps of even 4's [16ths] & back into the triplety groove again.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ September 14, 2005 05:02 PM: Message edited by: got_a_match_grip? ]</font>
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