Yeah Domincians have looooots of kids. Although I insist I've never seen a dominican like you. You look Euro....
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">[img]eek.gif[/img] [img]confused.gif[/img] [img]eek.gif[/img] ** Dazza bites his lip so as not to comment!! ** [img]wink.gif[/img]I actually look pretty Dominican,
by the standard. You should see
my extended family. My father is
one of 20 children, by the same
mom. Yup. That's right!
Yeah Domincians have looooots of kids. Although I insist I've never seen a dominican like you. You look Euro....
I'm one of the darker ones. You should
see my sister (we have 3 children in
our NYC-family). Like Mom, she has
very light skin and green eyes. Some
say we're from the Galecia in Spain
but again, I'm dark in comparison.
My father's family, remember, came from
the old country, where children were
necessary to keep the farms operating.
Life in America is much different, as
our lives proved out.
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Pete, turn your volume down, this is a louder mix than before I think. Well, this is a great exercise for me in learning how lacking my timing is and how I still need to get my strokes to leave much more space in between. For some reason there's a horrible early snare beat at 2.29 [img]eek.gif[/img] I didn't write any music out in the end, just kinda memorised it, got most of the hits, but there's a lot of pushing where I want it to lay back more. It's so hard to get a perfect take and I never did! Oh well, as I live and play, I learn all the time, which is only a good thing. [img]smile.gif[/img]
http://jamesseph.phpwebhosting.com/DRuM'sStuff/Zapata3.mp3
Rudy,
Great on getting through this
whole tune!!! You are the man!
I can see you really took what
I said to heart on the kick and
snare placement. Lol! Did it feel
funny? Sounds like you are start-
ing to feel that. I like that
MUCH better than the samba. Kewl!
I think the mix is good.
On the Intro, I think that it's
solid but I believe it too close
to what you did in the Verses.
I think that you should do some-
thing different here, distinguish-
ing it from the rest of the tune,
reprising it at the end. Something
a little looser but not wide-open.
Syncopate it differently, perhaps
focusing on the keyboard or the
bass-line.
On the section, where the horns
are up front (after the verses),
your 8th-notes are a little dis-
tracting on the ride or out of
place. This pattern is hardly ever
heard on a cymbal, in Latin. Here,
you could use a diddle-pattern.
I hear you doing it on the HH too
but the kicks break it up. IF you
do use 8th's in Latin, use them
only for your beat placement but
not so as to be heard. In other
words, play or mix the HH lower,
if you play 8th's.
Latin is mostly linear. When non-
linear, it's within more linear
patterns. You need spaces and a
certain irregularity. 8th's are
too regular. Think of what you
did to the kick and snare. You
will get what I mean, I think.
This is key in Latin, as I see
it. Maybe other guys might have
something to say about that view.
Again, the diddle-patterns are
such an ally for us in Latin.
Maybe think of a variation for
the Intro and Ending and tell
me what you think, letting me
hear some more.
Well, real awesome and just a-
bout perfect! YOU ARE THE MAN!
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Heh, thank you peter for your kind words and advice. Firstly, yes, I managed to just about hold on to it for the whole tune. This was my only take all the way through, since I made many other takes today stopping before the end due to mistakes and mostly still not having memorised all 5 minutes of it, kicks and stuff. I was ready to make another take all the way through, but had to stop,(neigbours), so with more time, I woulda nailed it a little better I think. I agree with you about the intro, making it different and reprising at the end, something for me to think about, definitely.
What does linear actually mean? I thought I knew , but tbh, I've never been completely sure. Also, how do you mean diddle pattern?
"I can see you really took what
I said to heart on the kick and
snare placement. Lol! Did it feel
funny? Sounds like you are start-
ing to feel that. I like that
MUCH better than the samba. Kewl!"
Hehe, no, it didn't feel funny, that beat is more what I'm used to, I love those kind of funky grooves. The samba thing I did on the other take is actually more uncomfortable for me.
The hardest thing for me is keeping the groove all the way through. I think I groove pretty good for a while, then when the vocals come in or theres a crash or a fill, I feel myself fighting to stay relaxed, and that's just my fault. So my groove ( ie. timing) is haphazard. But this is going to strengthen me, all this recording, I know it.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure when I can next record anything, as my free time is coming to an end for a while, and I have to return the mixer and some of the mics. But if I get a chance before then, I will continue to bore you with my horrible playing. [img]biggrin.gif[/img]
Thanks again peter. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Rudy,
Horrible?! [img]eek.gif[/img]
Wipe the floor up with me, why
don't you?!
Listen. This is an adventure! You
don't know just how big this ice-
berg, do you? I'm talking about a
new world opening up, behind the
drums. You WILL see. Everyone
wants what you're going to have!
You JUST started on this. Don't
be in a rush. Let it sink into and
underneath your skin. You should
get that release, by the way. It's
out there, cheap. Let it take over.
As for Linear versus Non-Linear,
it's about having to play notes
simultaneously. In Latin, this
is not the norm, like in pop and
elsewhere.
As for examples of this and I might
as well include your next inquiry,
Steve Gadd's Mozambique rhythm is
one that you should write on your
heart. Late In The Evening, from
Paul Simon's 'One Trick Pony' is
a killer linear beat to have in
your reportoire.
The use of the paradiddle and var-
iations thereof, in Latin, is so
established. It's everywhere. You
must go there and I'm talking about
your ride-patterns in chorus etc.
Hear this rhythm:
www.thediametrixletter.com/mambonightsst.mp3
This is ALL linear-diddling, save
the kick accents. This is from the
same release as Zapata and you will
be doing it soon!!!
Listen to ride patterns.
Let the paradiddle and its siblings
become a part of your approach on
Latin. When you do, you are going
to have SO MUCH FUN and the kicks
for those horns are going to become
available, when they weren't before.
We are on the road, Rudy! You are
going to rip open that cage and
gobble up London!!
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<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ February 25, 2004 05:32 PM: Message edited by: peter c ]</font>
Great playing on that peter! These latin tunes you're finding are really fantastic. I absolutely love them, and zapata has really nice things going on, great chords. I understand what you mean by linear, it's what I thought. Yeah, late in the evening is great, mozambique is already in my repertoire. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Well, good, Rudy!
You know how the ride evolves from
that pattern in LITE? That's what
you can use, along with variations
of it, in Latin. Single and double-
paradiddles and diddle-diddles. See
if they don't create new ride pat-
terns that break up the 8th and 16th
note patterns, so as to open up the
presentation. I bet you will do it
on the first shot. You have it!
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Yeah peter, I think that ride pattern comes from a slight variation on cascara. I need to dig out old papers and books I have with all sorts of latin rhythms, like tumbao and others. I forget them or confuse them. Latin is a hard skill in drumming quite unlike any others!
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