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Two Words

Jeff Porcaro

Nuff Said!

Check the "Train Song" sample with Vinnie available the Steve's site. In this sample, Vinnie tell everything according to me. His drum track is.......I have no word, no word.
Check it (several times...)

definetly check the drummerworld site. make time to check out elvin jones,tony williams,steve smith,simon philips,roy haynes(gives classic examples of beat displacement),terry bozzio,john blackwell(prince),virgil donati(technician supreme-no feel though),jo jo mayer(my current fixation-he is also a technical junkie,he knows buddie's little tricks),cindy blackman(her jazz repatoire,she loves tony williams),manu katche,carter beauford(dave matthews band),?uestlove(dope hip-hop grooves from The Roots),john stanier(helmet),mike bordin(ex faith no more),abe cunningham(deftones),louie bellson,carlos vega(who vinnie replaced in karizma.if you listen to rock make sure you are familiar with matt cameron,tim alexander,and danny carey(these guys along with chad smith defined drumming in the 90's).theres no history like drumset history,it will prepare you for the future.happy hunting!.........much respect......beats [img]cool.gif[/img]

Check out Steve Fidyk, drummer with the United States Army Blues band, based in Washington, DC. I'm fortunate enough to have him for a teacher. He's pretty technically astounding. I'm not sure if his site has mp3s.

www.stevefidyk.com

see below

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I'm really loving Abe Laboriel Jnr. at the moment as well!

Hey Nikk - Steve Fidyk is great. I've actually shared the stage w/ him on a # of occasions: 7 days in Columbus, OH; a day at the Crisfield, MD Hard Crab Derby; & a couple of days in Timonium, MD, at the MD State Fair. He gave me their latest CD [the week b4 Sept. 11, '01] - "Things Ain't What They Used to Be [Oct. '00]." He [& the whole Army Jazz Band] burns!
Phil - definitely Bonham for groove & creativity.
...Uno.... - Stew for aggressiveness & originality in style of play'g.
Abe Jr. - great.
Neil - 1 of rock's biggest influences. No, he's not in the fusion guys' league, but he admits that. He is quoted as saying that he's a rock drummer who "borrows from those guys & applies it to rock." But the stuff he did in rock at that time on those albums was a lot better than 95% of the sh** that was out there. Check out [along w/ the ones Steve H mentioned]: Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, Exit Stage Left [& Signals, Grace Under Pressure, Hold Your Fire, & Roll the Bones].
2 more words: JEFF PORCARO [groove monster.]
1 more word: VINNIE. NO ONE LIKE 'IM.
& everyone Beats mentioned!

Okay. If you're looking for guys who are "sick," here's a short list:

1. Dennis Chambers
2. Virgil Donati (unbelievable feet and hands)
3. Steve Smith (check out his first two videos; I don't like his playing as much anymore--he was more aggressive back then)
4. Marco Minneman (sp) (Steve played me the CD from his instructional video and it's really out there; other than that I have no idea who he plays with).

Check them out.

Hey kave333333,
I reread your post, “i've been drummign for about 3 years but haven;t found many drummers that i can look at and be amazed (besides the obvoius vinnie, dave,dennis, buddy, etc.) so if anyone can give me some names of drummers i should check out i'd appreciate it! thanks”
Rhinodentist appropriately asked, “What kind of music do you like to listen to?” and you replied, “rock mostly...but i'm open to anything. Especially jazz.”
If you’ve only been playing three years, almost all the drummers given are A and A+ drummers- in other words, light years away. If you’re playing mostly rock you might find some drummers (local live music is best) that can play with solid time, groove, and feel.
Buy Kenny Arnoff’s first video, Laying It Down. He gives good exercises to establish a foundation that will enable one to handle playing musically rather than throwing in hotlicks without being able to first play time and feel in a variety of styles. I’m partial to Jeff Porcaro, but you have to find your own. Like I said in an earlier post, a good teacher is a valuable source and should be sought out and stuck with for at least a year. As a teacher myself, I weed out older students by asking them to make a commitment to see if they
really are ready to learn which means making sacrifices. Read an honest response from Nikk,
“...the biggest distraction I face (regarding drumming) centers around friends and girls. It's incredibly difficult to stay put and practice on a Saturday night when your friends are trying to get you to go out for a night on the town, so to speak. Many times friends have no understanding of the consistency required to develop one's
musical ability. So, for me, a constant battle I face is having the ability to say no to my friends and even family.”
This is one of the most honest statements I’ve heard. I asked Dave Weckl about his early development and it was as if he simply couldn’t relate, he just said on Friday and Saturday nights that if he had to put in a certain practice time he did. He had an internal goal and vision of where he wanted to be and didn’t let anything get in his way. This could be a good and bad thing. I may have cost him his first marriage???
Best wishes! This is a great forum to stay plugged into.

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SIMON PHILLIPS!
Listen to the Livefields album by Toto. Who else can play like that? And for you jazz guys, have you heard his Tony Williams inspired album called Vantage point? Fantastic. What a guy!