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    Re: What can we do to help?

    Quote Originally Posted by shak7 View Post
    AMEN!!!!


    Shak
    I told you so. Months ago i had started to suspect that the forum is not so friendly to us anymore. I wrote about it to XP many times. He resolved the problems i had, transfering my protests and my problems to the "men in black" who rule the forum. (i am afraid that they consider us and they like to treat us like we are alliens ! LOL) .
    I posted here about it 2 times. I bet that many friends here would had thought that i exaggerate things and i am into conspiracy theories...
    I am not... Forum has changed. Maybe new people are the majority now among the "decision makers". They do not care about us. They may want to kick us out. So thery start to cut abilities. I wonder what will come next.
    It is not XP's fault. XP fights for us but he can not do a lot of things.
    I think that we must protest to these "men in black".
    To write letters to XP kindly asking him to transfer them up, to the rulers of the forum.

    In addition :
    We may start to think for alternatives. Neither of them is simple, nor so easy. But we must do something before to wake up one day and all this to have gone.
    A good idea is to exchange emails, or tweets or FB, anything that shows us in the social media.
    Try to be in touch with the writers you like at first. To know how to be in touch with them. So, if the worst will happen to can be in touch with each other.
    We must also examime alternatives like "literotica".
    Alas, the days of insouciance are close to an inevitable end...

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    Re: What can we do to help?

    This looks like a secret planning for a coup d'?tat. LOLX

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    Re: What can we do to help?

    Quote Originally Posted by Giannis-CB View Post
    I told you so. Months ago i had started to suspect that the forum is not so friendly to us anymore. I wrote about it to XP many times. He resolved the problems i had, transfering my protests and my problems to the "men in black" who rule the forum. (i am afraid that they consider us and they like to treat us like we are alliens ! LOL) .
    I posted here about it 2 times. I bet that many friends here would had thought that i exaggerate things and i am into conspiracy theories...
    I am not... Forum has changed. Maybe new people are the majority now among the "decision makers". They do not care about us. They may want to kick us out. So thery start to cut abilities. I wonder what will come next.
    It is not XP's fault. XP fights for us but he can not do a lot of things.
    I think that we must protest to these "men in black".
    To write letters to XP kindly asking him to transfer them up, to the rulers of the forum.

    In addition :
    We may start to think for alternatives. Neither of them is simple, nor so easy. But we must do something before to wake up one day and all this to have gone.
    A good idea is to exchange emails, or tweets or FB, anything that shows us in the social media.
    Try to be in touch with the writers you like at first. To know how to be in touch with them. So, if the worst will happen to can be in touch with each other.
    We must also examime alternatives like "literotica".
    Alas, the days of insouciance are close to an inevitable end...
    I write fetish fiction just as well as regular one, and it was the latter through which I came upon a story that somewhat describes how people feel here what's happening. It was so relatively unknown, that even the Washington Post has misrepresented things in the obituary. This happened on an Allied train (the movie about it is called Stop Train 349, but it's mostly fiction) shortly before Thanksgiving in '61 (and not in '59, and for the progression of the story it's kind of important who was in the White House) and a month after the Wall (actually exactly 2 years before he was assassinated). The train itself was American territory, but the engine pulling it through the Soviet zone was not. Since several constructions slowed down the train, a disillusioned fugitive managed to get on board, and that's where the standoff started. It was a breach of contract to help fugitives, but it was also a breach to obstruct transit travel beyond necessity. In the end, despite all tries, the new president agreed to give the guy up so their people can leave. So, in this scenario XP would be the liaison bound by difficult rules doing the best he can.

    I see this thing differently, not more than a typical "you should read your Apple/Microsoft contract" situation. In this scenario, XP has the ability to use the facilities to which he pays for in a transparent fashion, however, the intellectual property and ability to change it lies with the "landlord" as it has always been. I too need the edit function for content changes, but I support XP from within the ramifications. I'm also against dispersing to several other sites, that is how works of great writers have vanished in the past along with websites.

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    Re: What can we do to help?

    Just my two cents: I don't know why this is happening (I did not even realize the full extent of it until reading this thread), but it does not make a lot of sense. Not allowing people access to an editing function would seem to be a basic requirement for any board that publishes messages. But this must be affecting every forum, not just this one.

    This being said, I find it incredible that the owners of hostboard would want this forum gone, as some have suggested here. As far as I can tell, this board easily gets the most traffic on hostboard. Would you really want to kill your best customer?

    JB57
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    Re: What can we do to help?

    There are plenty of other forums in the adult section that work fine. They all have the edit function an other basics in place. This is likely something accidentally done by XP. The owner of HB seems to be out to lunch on fixing problems though.

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    Re: What can we do to help?

    Hey everyone. First off, I need to clarify my ownership of this forum.

    I "own" the Titfighting and Sexfighting Forum. I am the one who started it many years ago, on a completely different server, and have moved it around as need be, ending here on Hostboard.

    I do not own or have any stake in Hostboard. Hostboard is owned by someone else. I am simply using their service, which is free. I chose Hostboard all those years ago as the place to park the Titfighting and Sexfighting Forum because of their openness to adult forums being on their system. There are honestly not a lot of options out there and I've watched many services come and go. Hostboard is the only one that has remained intact all these years.

    Unlike what MaskedSuperstar said, I am not "out to lunch" on fixing things and I didn't "accidentally" do anything to this forum. I have had my options set for this forum since Day 1 and have never touched them since as I never had to. The problems we're facing is also forum-wide. Hostboard just hired a bunch of new coders who are working on adding new functionality. On top of that, Hostboard is expanding. From what I understand, they're going through a period of adjustment and that period has, unfortunately, come with some "growing pains".

    As for me, I am actively trying to get the forum's functionality back to normal. This does NOT mean I am sitting here writing code. I have no ability to actually do that. All I can do is manage the forum using the options Hostboard has given me. And, as I mentioned in Shak7's other topic, I currently don't have the ability to do that. Steven, who is one of the owners of Hostboard, has a developer working on fixing my own account to allow me to manage the forum.

    In regards to the Edit function, Steven told me that Hostboard is implementing a new function that puts a Time Limit on editing. So, if you just created a thread, it will be Editable for a certain amount of time before it stops being Editable. This is a forum-wide function, affecting every single forum on Hostboard. However, I have asked Steven to please not implement that function on the Titfighting and Sexfighting Forum because none of us want it. In other words, I have asked Hostboard to do something different for one specific forum on their system. Hopefully, they'll be okay with that.

    And, that's everything, guys. Seriously, Hostboard isn't out to get us and definitely not purposefully ruining our experience. Just bear with them and trust that I am in constant contact with them to try to get things back to normal.
    Check out the Titfighting and Sexfighting Forum at [url]http://www.hostboard.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=294[/url]

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    Re: What can we do to help?

    Quote Originally Posted by XP View Post
    Hey everyone. First off, I need to clarify my ownership of this forum.

    I "own" the Titfighting and Sexfighting Forum. I am the one who started it many years ago, on a completely different server, and have moved it around as need be, ending here on Hostboard.

    I do not own or have any stake in Hostboard. Hostboard is owned by someone else. I am simply using their service, which is free. I chose Hostboard all those years ago as the place to park the Titfighting and Sexfighting Forum because of their openness to adult forums being on their system. There are honestly not a lot of options out there and I've watched many services come and go. Hostboard is the only one that has remained intact all these years.

    Unlike what MaskedSuperstar said, I am not "out to lunch" on fixing things and I didn't "accidentally" do anything to this forum. I have had my options set for this forum since Day 1 and have never touched them since as I never had to. The problems we're facing is also forum-wide. Hostboard just hired a bunch of new coders who are working on adding new functionality. On top of that, Hostboard is expanding. From what I understand, they're going through a period of adjustment and that period has, unfortunately, come with some "growing pains".

    As for me, I am actively trying to get the forum's functionality back to normal. This does NOT mean I am sitting here writing code. I have no ability to actually do that. All I can do is manage the forum using the options Hostboard has given me. And, as I mentioned in Shak7's other topic, I currently don't have the ability to do that. Steven, who is one of the owners of Hostboard, has a developer working on fixing my own account to allow me to manage the forum.

    In regards to the Edit function, Steven told me that Hostboard is implementing a new function that puts a Time Limit on editing. So, if you just created a thread, it will be Editable for a certain amount of time before it stops being Editable. This is a forum-wide function, affecting every single forum on Hostboard. However, I have asked Steven to please not implement that function on the Titfighting and Sexfighting Forum because none of us want it. In other words, I have asked Hostboard to do something different for one specific forum on their system. Hopefully, they'll be okay with that.

    And, that's everything, guys. Seriously, Hostboard isn't out to get us and definitely not purposefully ruining our experience. Just bear with them and trust that I am in constant contact with them to try to get things back to normal.
    Might want to work on your reading skills.

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    Re: What can we do to help?

    Quote Originally Posted by XP View Post
    Hey everyone. First off, I need to clarify my ownership of this forum.

    I "own" the Titfighting and Sexfighting Forum. I am the one who started it many years ago, on a completely different server, and have moved it around as need be, ending here on Hostboard.

    I do not own or have any stake in Hostboard. Hostboard is owned by someone else. I am simply using their service, which is free. I chose Hostboard all those years ago as the place to park the Titfighting and Sexfighting Forum because of their openness to adult forums being on their system. There are honestly not a lot of options out there and I've watched many services come and go. Hostboard is the only one that has remained intact all these years.

    Unlike what MaskedSuperstar said, I am not "out to lunch" on fixing things and I didn't "accidentally" do anything to this forum. I have had my options set for this forum since Day 1 and have never touched them since as I never had to. The problems we're facing is also forum-wide. Hostboard just hired a bunch of new coders who are working on adding new functionality. On top of that, Hostboard is expanding. From what I understand, they're going through a period of adjustment and that period has, unfortunately, come with some "growing pains".

    As for me, I am actively trying to get the forum's functionality back to normal. This does NOT mean I am sitting here writing code. I have no ability to actually do that. All I can do is manage the forum using the options Hostboard has given me. And, as I mentioned in Shak7's other topic, I currently don't have the ability to do that. Steven, who is one of the owners of Hostboard, has a developer working on fixing my own account to allow me to manage the forum.

    In regards to the Edit function, Steven told me that Hostboard is implementing a new function that puts a Time Limit on editing. So, if you just created a thread, it will be Editable for a certain amount of time before it stops being Editable. This is a forum-wide function, affecting every single forum on Hostboard. However, I have asked Steven to please not implement that function on the Titfighting and Sexfighting Forum because none of us want it. In other words, I have asked Hostboard to do something different for one specific forum on their system. Hopefully, they'll be okay with that.

    And, that's everything, guys. Seriously, Hostboard isn't out to get us and definitely not purposefully ruining our experience. Just bear with them and trust that I am in constant contact with them to try to get things back to normal.
    Dear XP

    Earlier I had it in mind to post a response stating I don't believe there's anything "conspiratorial" going on here. You just saved me the effort.

    In my former professional life, we relied heavily on computers, programming, etc...and ALL the foibles and frustrations that went with it. Many of our problems occured during "upgrades" and "adding new functionality." I get this. It's frustrating, but I get it. I also understand your situation. I'd be willing to say that all the classy authors on this forum are willing to wade through this period of adjustment for the sake of a new and improved product, provided one is forthcoming.

    However, having said all that, your statement "if you just created a thread, it will be Editable for a certain amount of time before it stops being Editable" is not quite accurate. That certain amount of time is very limited. I posted Brandi's Opus, part 20, two days ago. I can no longer edit that post. Indeed, I lost the edit function shortly after the chapter was posted. Please pass that on to Steven and his new coders. It's a souce of frustration for all the writers.

    Thanks for your efforts in our behalf, XP. I hope this "glitch" is resolved soon.

    Regards,
    A. Penman

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    Re: What can we do to help?

    Hello again everyone

    I'm not reading into motivations about why things are the way they are. I only know what is and what isn't. I cannot edit my stories, I cannot add to my stories. I am not a professional writer with professional editors. I may write a story today and go back and see numerous errors a week later, then a month later, then even a year later! We take pride in our work and a desire to improve our work is important. To take away or severely limit the ability to edit our own stories is not a good thing. But for XP to have limited options in running a forum like this is troubling to me. My stories require constant editing, because my creative brain flies faster than my rational brain. I know what I'm trying to say, but many times it comes out a little twisted!
    I support you XP, you do what you can and what you have to do. I appreciate this forum, it is a lot of fun and a great creative outlet for weird people like me. I just sincerely hope we can keep the editing feature for our stories long term and not just a day or so. My only petition is for that, continuous editing for our stories. I can't speak for others, but my stories are not just random thoughts and words. My stories come from the heart and my life experiences and my imagination.......I want the ability to continuously improve them!

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    Re: What can we do to help?

    I have a problem with the time limit too, in which regard I agree with shak7. I was a moderator on different forums and it would have been a shot in the leg to not being able to edit posts for offensive or illegal content. So while it's not conspiratorial, it still is an "easing the burden" move on the part who operate the whole site, the less we can edit, the less can previous content appear as if it's a bumped up old thread (which it would be through editing).

    Shak7, I don't have editors either, everything I know, I learned from creative writing. One such move is, and it's a viable "fix" even in this situation is to publish a revised entry on the same story. In case of a creative mind being faster than the rational one... I know the feeling. This is just a suggestion, but this very space here is, where I write this reply is a sandbox. The option of previewing a post exists exactly to review your content for any outliers. I actually wish internet message boards were this advanced back when I wrote 8 to 10 drafts on the same story.

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