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    Re: Enough of Jack Ryan's rubbish .....

    Quote Originally Posted by jack_ryan View Post
    1.I pay for my **** .Did i design this forum ? No i did not .So stop vomit irrelevant BS stuff about whether the forum is free or PPV .My kindergarten Nephew can debate better than you .You need help
    Brining in irrelevant points instead of sticking to context


    2.I am not talking about having a quota here or mandating POC inclusion in stories .Dont vomit BS by bringing in a sports reference .Sport is on merit and so should be all domains

    If someone has been raised well and taught to be inclusive towards POC and pagans ,they will be inclusive ,if not ,well they can wallow in their narrow mindset

    .I am talking about including POC characters on merit .The filth you are vomiting suggests that POC characters are not qualified to be hot and in stories ?
    Who said so ? Everyone know POC women are incredibly hot be it Indian ,Black,Asian ,Romani

    A intelligent ,educated ,well read person would have said "You are right.There is a massive gap in inclusion .Lets work together "
    Instead of the above ,i am shocked to see some people pull out all kinds of ridicilous BS to justify inclusion
    If you had spent that time introspecting ,these would have been better people in life
    You pay for your porn, good for you. You CHOOSE what you want to watch including whatever porn star of whatever colour you want. Want an award?

    You kinda are and yes, yes you are right. Sport IS on merit. But fantasy isn't. It doesn't matter how well taught or well raised you are. You will have preferences. I'm reminded of my Twitter ban for daring to say that sexual choice/preference is a thing. And I don't give a fuck how hot you think other women are. I will include the ones I...me, myself and I...find hot. And unless I'm being paid for my stories I'll use the Hollywood excuse. If you don't like it...don't read it.

    Now you get to the shaming. Well jokes on you jackass I'm a West Indian...living in the West Indies. Use a map and figure out what THAT means. Here we don't have time to whine on first world problems like "inclusion". If you can do the job....want to do the job...and are GOOD at the job...fine. But you claim to be talking about merit, but you sound more and more like you're talking about quotas. And I have no interest in telling people what they SHOULD be doing as opposed to what they WANT to be doing.

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    Re: Enough of Jack Ryan's rubbish .....

    Jack,

    There is merit in criticizing lack of diversity, yet your stance isn't helping anyone. I will begin with the obscure observation of inaccurate male representation. Catfight, titfight and sexfight stories, unless the latter is mixed, are camera obscura type of stories. Since that trend never caught on in British India until actual cinemas arrived, it's a process where people paid a nickel to look into a device where figures were dancing or horses were galloping almost as if they were truly moving. The male readers want to imagine themselves being the guy who watches and a well described, actively participating male character is a hindrance.

    When it comes to writers, especially to content written in free time, it is up to the writer how comfortably knowledgeable they feel about characters, how well they know them. That brings me to what I call a cultural hemisphere. On the Indian subcontinent, East, Central and West Asians are just as uncommon as black people, as are white people. A lot of it has to do with the fact that once colonization ended, those people left, plus only those may tolerate the largely subtropical subcontinental climate who were born into it, and also speak the language and know the culture. You have mentioned religious harmony, which let's be frank I don't buy since many of us are very aware of the bloody relations between Hindus and Muslims. Your mother personally may be tolerant, but even though the Christians and Muslims are also brown skinned, on a large scale such tolerance does not exist. Not a good look to use anecdotal evidence in trying to discredit things that keeps scholars busy since centuries.

    That brings me to my last point, the alleged lack of mistreatment of women on subcontinent. Major yikes. Getting men convicted for multiple accounts of rape is such a big issue, that in one case 200 women murdered a man a few years ago because the court found him not guilty over his history of rape spanning 3 decades. Victim blaming is quite common. A sensible person would say it is a problem everywhere else, except volume matters. We don't struggle with such problems because victim blaming happens more often by individuals, no longer by law enforcement.

    A writer can get out of their comfort zone, heck, I do it myself. When I'm not familiar with a culture or language I interview locals, even for a free story to give accurate representation. That said, it needs certain anchors of realism. South Asians in North America live mostly in cities, not suburbs, where most writers live. Just like how an Indian writer barely if ever ventures into the slums populated by the lower castes and undocumented migrants (I recall it being just or 3 years ago when the government tried to denaturalize Indians of Muslim denomination) and writes what they perceive to be accurate.

    Our planet is massive. It is not impossible to depict South Asian characters, but it's easier to write about those who are present in our cultural sphere, like Lily Singh, Priyanka Chopra or Aishwara Rai. I am an admitted niche writer who knows there is a small audience for stories which generate interest beyond fighting. This is because once capitalism discovered that trying to ban the forbidden fruit, that is the active ban of sexual content in the 1950s, only generates a thriving black market. Once black marketing (or underground marketing if it's more pleasant) discovered it can be packaged like every other thing men like, the need to provide anything beyond titillation died out. In Italy, the Golden Age of porn in the 70s was followed by giallo movies until the 1980s, which blended mainstream mystery, horror, or crime fiction with sex scenes. Even actors like Donald Sutherland played in them.

    Where that did not happen, one can expect to have a high number of male readers interested in something they can deposit in the spank bank. Through their suburban and college life, the majority of women they meet are white. Sexual preference, especially before the internet was shaped by the community they live in. My personal preference is a redhead with emerald green eyes. I do find beauty attractive, so I'm not discriminatory, but in my case it needs to be understood I spent decades behind a physical and later mental Iron Curtain where people to this day resist change in culture, so it's more a curiosity first, then actual knowledge, being greatly helped by the fact that I live in the West now.
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    Re: Enough of Jack Ryan's rubbish .....

    My god ,i have never seen such vile depraved BS resorted to by any person in response to just a simple observation on lack of diversity
    .Even a toxic Trump wouldnt go into the BS areas you have to justify your BS

    The sheer bigotry ,Bullshitting ,lack of data here ,irrelevant comments here is ASTOUNDING
    The worst thing is people are actually liking this puke worthy racist vomit being spewed here
    (Apenman,Marine check and one more bigot has liked this vile vile filth being spewed here)


    To avoid further bigots from vomiting Here's some socio economic ,philosophical facts so that people stick to the context of diversity in te story instead of vomiting racist bullshit


    1 .China and India alternated in being the largest economies in the world from 1 to 1800 CE. China was a major economic power and attracted many to the east,[10][11][12] and for many the legendary wealth and prosperity of the ancient culture of India personified Asia,[13


    2.India is the 5th largest economy ,3rd largest bY PPP.Hinduism has contributed to ancient economics ,math,science,medicine,statecraft .
    Tantra and the kamasutra ,Yoga originated from Hinduism
    Indian brands today have acquired major western brands in sectors from steel to IT to automobile to FMCG


    I am sure this triggers you and others and i love it


    3.Indian women are stunning ,gorgeous ,intelligent ,kind and empethetic anc go toe to toe and are going to toe with white women from sectors like economics to marketing to banking to IT to business

    Unlike the US which elected a toxic dude as POTUS like Trump who boasts about sexually harassing
    women ,India has had a female prime minister who stood up to bigots like Nixon ,a female defense minister ,a female chief minister ,female heads of banks ,female heads of government think tanks


    India has the 3rd most successful space program after China and the US and a large section of the team responsible are Indian women
    Using the occurrence of some incidents by toxic groups in a vile rape case is being used to misrepresent stuff by catfightlover again.
    There is something called as objectivity ,360 degree analysis



    4. Hinduism has pioneered Ahimsa ( Non violence) From Diwali to Holi to Ugadi ,Hindu festivals are known for amazing philosiphical festivals .Also Buddha was an Hindu prince .Also Hinduism never says there is one god ,.As far as the riots are concerned , data points are all there to analyze .The fact That India which was looted bare by the toxic brits became he 5th largest economy which clocked 7 % GDP growht in 2018 while the world GDP growth was just above flat is a testimony of how the nation and its citizens are focused on progress and peace


    Any sensible ,educated ,inclusive man or woman would have said ( There is one such person here -Rivals Rapture who has at least 3 stories featuring a Indian Hindu woman ) " Yes ,there is a massive lack of diversity and lets push for more diversity )


    Wow.



    These kind of responses validate the sheer rabid bigotry ,lack of intelligence, respect for data on this forum ( except for Rivals rapture who is a gem of an author and person )

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    First of all

    About your weird use of the word "Quotas" .Indians have excelled in math,science,economics,statecraft ,biology and have earned their contributions on merit globally .
    From C V raman to Aryabhata to jagadeesh Chandra bose to many such professionals like Ratan Tata ,Aditya Birla ,Tanya dubash ,Gita Gopinath who is the chief economist of the world bank

    Each of them made massive contributions to various fields on the strength of their intellect in india and overseas .
    From the Tata group to the Mahindra group ,Indian companies have helped generate employment in multiple geographies
    Indian origin people head major brands in multiple sectors across the world on the strength of their delivery ,intellect and hard work .People of color don't need quotas to prove themselves
    They need grit and determination and fair opportunity
    As a poc ,i am shocked to see you who is a person of color to disparage and degrade the ability of Indian and Indian origin people

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    Re: Enough of Jack Ryan's rubbish .....

    Please don't stoop to his level by replying to this pointless garbage. As long as we all ignore his posts, he'll get bored and move on. The sooner the better.

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    Re: Enough of Jack Ryan's rubbish .....

    This is just another porn site to me, leave the politic out of it. If you like diversity fine write ur own story. I joined sexfight forums for years almost half of they people liked clone fight which is very much no diversity at all.

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    Re: Enough of Jack Ryan's rubbish .....

    So if you demand that non-Indian writers (making an assumption here, but I am assuming that many of the writers here are not Indian) include Indian women in their stories to meet some sort of diversity quota, are you then going to start slamming those writers for appropriating Indian culture? And are you willing to accept that you are trying to force writers to create characters that the writer does not really understand?

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    Re: Enough of Jack Ryan's rubbish .....

    Am I the only one that read his last post as some kind of screwed up political propaganda? If you want to champion the good then you shouldn't have any issue with the bad...especially since you seem to be "triggered" by the old God Emperor himself. Like how about the fact that China is the originator of the latest pandemic? Their social credit system? Their butthurt over Taiwan (Taiwan NO.1!).

    How about India's caste system, despite having a female PM, etc, etc.? Hope you still like using those rail systems that the "toxic Brits" built. How's the Ganges river doing these days?

    You seem to be of the belief that since you simp for Indian women, therefore the rest of us must do the same. Again...not going to happen. I have Zero, None, Nada, NO interest in Indian ladies, porn star or otherwise. So unless you ask me...VERY NICELY...or pay me to write a story involving Indian ladies I'm not going to do it. People are interesting like that...the harder you push for them to do things your way the more they resist...probably just to piss you off.

    This is a forum where people write stories about women...and men...engaging in lewd acts together or trying to hurt each other. There's a reason most of the stories are of fictional characters. And since they're fictional and FREE, the writers will tend to write their fantasies about their preferred types going at it. If you like it, read it. If you don't...then don't. I don't like futanari, but I don't try and stop writers like Anubis from writing them. When he writes his occasional non-futanari story I'll read it since I think he's a good writer, but I understand he has his own tastes.

    In essence, stop trying to force your tastes on others and write your own stories. If people like them, they'll read them. If not...not your problem.

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