election fraud

**gnosis_within** · November 8th, 2004, 07:41 PM

look out dj! another long post:

by Thom Hartmann / Common Dreams

When I spoke with Jeff Fisher this morning (Saturday, November 06, 2004), the Democratic candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives from Florida's 16th District said he was waiting for the FBI to show up. Fisher has evidence, he says, not only that the Florida election was hacked, but of who hacked it and how. And not just this year, he said, but that these same people had previously hacked the Democratic primary race in 2002 so that Jeb Bush would not have to run against Janet Reno, who presented a real threat to Jeb, but instead against Bill McBride, who Jeb beat.

"It was practice for a national effort," Fisher told me.

And evidence is accumulating that the national effort happened on November 2, 2004.

The State of Florida, for example, publishes a county-by-county record of votes cast and people registered to vote by party affiliation. Net denizen Kathy Dopp compiled the official state information into a table, available at http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm, and noticed something startling.

While the heavily scrutinized touch-screen voting machines seemed to produce results in which the registered Democrat/Republican ratios matched the Kerry/Bush vote, and so did the optically-scanned paper ballots in the larger counties, in Florida's smaller counties the results from the optically scanned paper ballots - fed into a central tabulator PC and thus vulnerable to hacking - seem to have been reversed.

In Baker County, for example, with 12,887 registered voters, 69.3% of them Democrats and 24.3% of them Republicans, the vote was only 2,180 for Kerry and 7,738 for Bush, the opposite of what is seen everywhere else in the country where registered Democrats largely voted for Kerry.

In Dixie County, with 4,988 registered voters, 77.5% of them Democrats and a mere 15% registered as Republicans, only 1,959 people voted for Kerry, but 4,433 voted for Bush.

The pattern repeats over and over again - but only in the smaller counties where, it was probably assumed, the small voter numbers wouldn't be much noticed. Franklin County, 77.3% registered Democrats, went 58.5% for Bush. Holmes County, 72.7% registered Democrats, went 77.25% for Bush.

Yet in the larger counties, where such anomalies would be more obvious to the news media, high percentages of registered Democrats equaled high percentages of votes for Kerry.

More visual analysis of the results can be seen at http://ustogether.org/election04/FloridaDataStats.htm, and www.rubberbug.com/temp/Florida2004chart.htm.

And, although elections officials didn't notice these anomalies, in aggregate they were enough to swing Florida from Kerry to Bush. If you simply go through the analysis of these counties and reverse the "anomalous" numbers in those counties that appear to have been hacked, suddenly the Florida election results resemble the Florida exit poll results: Kerry won, and won big.

Those exit poll results have been a problem for reporters ever since Election Day.

Election night, I'd been doing live election coverage for WDEV, one of the radio stations that carries my syndicated show, and, just after midnight, during the 12:20 a.m. Associated Press Radio News feed, I was startled to hear the reporter detail how Karen Hughes had earlier sat George W. Bush down to inform him that he'd lost the election. The exit polls were clear: Kerry was winning in a landslide. "Bush took the news stoically," noted the AP report.

But then the computers reported something different. In several pivotal states.

Conservatives see a conspiracy here: They think the exit polls were rigged.

Dick Morris, the infamous political consultant to the first Clinton campaign who became a Republican consultant and Fox News regular, wrote an article for The Hill, the publication read by every political junkie in Washington, DC, in which he made a couple of brilliant points.

"Exit Polls are almost never wrong," Morris wrote. "They eliminate the two major potential fallacies in survey research by correctly separating actual voters from those who pretend they will cast ballots but never do and by substituting actual observation for guesswork in judging the relative turnout of different parts of the state."

He added: "So, according to ABC-TVs exit polls, for example, Kerry was slated to carry Florida, Ohio, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, and Iowa, all of which Bush carried. The only swing state the network had going to Bush was West Virginia, which the president won by 10 points."

Yet a few hours after the exit polls were showing a clear Kerry sweep, as the computerized vote numbers began to come in from the various states the election was called for Bush.

How could this happen?

On the CNBC TV show "Topic A With Tina Brown," several months ago, Howard Dean had filled in for Tina Brown as guest host. His guest was Bev Harris, the Seattle grandmother who started www.blackboxvoting.org from her living room. Bev pointed out that regardless of how votes were tabulated (other than hand counts, only done in odd places like small towns in Vermont), the real "counting" is done by computers. Be they Diebold Opti-Scan machines, which read paper ballots filled in by pencil or ink in the voter's hand, or the scanners that read punch cards, or the machines that simply record a touch of the screen, in all cases the final tally is sent to a "central tabulator" machine.

That central tabulator computer is a Windows-based PC.

"In a voting system," Harris explained to Dean on national television, "you have all the different voting machines at all the different polling places, sometimes, as in a county like mine, there's a thousand polling places in a single county. All those machines feed into the one machine so it can add up all the votes. So, of course, if you were going to do something you shouldn't to a voting machine, would it be more convenient to do it to each of the 4000 machines, or just come in here and deal with all of them at once?"

Dean nodded in rhetorical agreement, and Harris continued. "What surprises people is that the central tabulator is just a PC, like what you and I use. It's just a regular computer."

"So," Dean said, "anybody who can hack into a PC can hack into a central tabulator?"

Harris nodded affirmation, and pointed out how Diebold uses a program called GEMS, which fills the screen of the PC and effectively turns it into the central tabulator system. "This is the official program that the County Supervisor sees," she said, pointing to a PC that was sitting between them loaded with Diebold's software.

Bev then had Dean open the GEMS program to see the results of a test election. They went to the screen titled "Election Summary Report" and waited a moment while the PC "adds up all the votes from all the various precincts," and then saw that in this faux election Howard Dean had 1000 votes, Lex Luthor had 500, and Tiger Woods had none. Dean was winning.

"Of course, you can't tamper with this software," Harris noted. Diebold wrote a pretty good program.

But, it's running on a Windows PC.

So Harris had Dean close the Diebold GEMS software, go back to the normal Windows PC desktop, click on the "My Computer" icon, choose "Local Disk C:," open the folder titled GEMS, and open the sub-folder "LocalDB" which, Harris noted, "stands for local database, that's where they keep the votes." Harris then had Dean double-click on a file in that folder titled "Central Tabulator Votes," which caused the PC to open the vote count in a database program like Excel.

In the "Sum of the Candidates" row of numbers, she found that in one precinct Dean had received 800 votes and Lex Luthor had gotten 400.

"Let's just flip those," Harris said, as Dean cut and pasted the numbers from one cell into the other. "And," she added magnanimously, "let's give 100 votes to Tiger."

They closed the database, went back into the official GEMS software "the legitimate way, you're the county supervisor and you're checking on the progress of your election."

As the screen displayed the official voter tabulation, Harris said, "And you can see now that Howard Dean has only 500 votes, Lex Luthor has 900, and Tiger Woods has 100." Dean, the winner, was now the loser.

Harris sat up a bit straighter, smiled, and said, "We just edited an election, and it took us 90 seconds."

On live national television. (You can see the clip on www.votergate.tv)

Which brings us back to Morris and those pesky exit polls that had Karen Hughes telling George W. Bush that he'd lost the election in a landslide.

Morris's conspiracy theory is that the exit polls "were sabotage" to cause people in the western states to not bother voting for Bush, since the networks would call the election based on the exit polls for Kerry. But the networks didn't do that, and had never intended to. It makes far more sense that the exit polls were right - they weren't done on Diebold PCs - and that the vote itself was hacked.

And not only for the presidential candidate - Jeff Fisher thinks this hit him and pretty much every other Democratic candidate for national office in the most-hacked swing states.

So far, the only national "mainstream" media to come close to this story was Keith Olbermann on his show Friday night, November 5th, when he noted that it was curious that all the voting machine irregularities so far uncovered seem to favor Bush. In the meantime, the Washington Post and other media are now going through single-bullet-theory-like contortions to explain how the exit polls had failed.

But I agree with Fox's Dick Morris on this one, at least in large part. Wrapping up his story for The Hill, Morris wrote in his final paragraph, "This was no mere mistake. Exit polls cannot be as wrong across the board as they were on election night. I suspect foul play."

**SmokinLizzies** · November 13th, 2004, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by shatzy:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Resident Guitarist:
if you think Bush was cunning enough to hide that many fake votes from the country, he?d have to be a damn genius, or at least have a lot of really smart people working for him. In which case, he was clearly the better choice to lead the country.

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are you trying to say that the person who misleads
the public and defies the very system we claim
to exist is the better person to run the country??

this isn't even about bush any more. i'm specifically
talking about what you said.

so the 'best' person to run the country is the
most deceptive?????

No, I was trying to say it's crazy to think he won by that many phony votes. Then I joked about the better choice. If it were this easy to win, Kerry would have been foolish not to cheat also. I was simply saying Bush must have been better at it.

Originally posted by Resident Guitarist:
He?s got the right people working for him and Kerry apparently chooses his friends poorly. But we know this can all be summed up to another conspiracy theory.

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regardless, consiracy theories exist NOT because
they happen... but because there are too many
loopholes to 'hide' in. there are too many places
to disguise deception. conspiracy theories happen
because there is no open truth....

No, it?s called paranoia. [img]wink.gif[/img]

Originally posted by Resident Guitarist:
Face it, the economy is meaningless if we?re in fear from terrorists.

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wrong. the economy is always meaningless. secondly,
the economy THRIVES on fear.... fear of natural
disaster, fear of man-made disaster, fear of
the unknown, fear of terrorists....

Um, everyone I know who voted for Kerry, did so for the economy. If that?s not why you choose him, why would he get your vote? SECONDLY, Rich business owners decide the economy, not fear silly rabbit.

Originally posted by Resident Guitarist:
And if you think fearing terrorists is a dead issue, maybe you should consider the reason terrorists aren?t in the headlines anymore is because Bush is doing his job.

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hahahhahhahahahahahaaaaaaaa..........!!!!!!!!!!
can't respond.... laughing too much

u suck

Originally posted by Resident Guitarist:
Remember, Congress makes the laws. The President?s job is to protect the country. The title ?commander and chief? refers to the armed forces, not to the economy.

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if you truly believe that the presidents power
stops at the military... you better return to
9th grade civics class.

secondly, if you believe the president has no
influential power over congress, laws, or any
other matter regarding this country... i feel
sorry for you

and whats with the economy talk?

Well, I apologize for bringing up the economy. I figured it to be a main topic point. All I meant by that is if the economy was an issue for you, changing who?s in congress would do more good to you.

Originally posted by Resident Guitarist:
I believe anyone in office during 9/11 would have seen the economy turn to shit.

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this makes no sense. i completely disagree.

The President can?t solely protect the economy! I explained this earlier.

[quote]Originally posted by Resident Guitarist:
And though we can argue Bush?s overseas policies all you want, one simple fact remains, there hasn?t been any repeats of the twin towers. Plain and simple, Bush is accomplishing his greatest responsibility.

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[qb]I suppose if you want to get technical... there
were no repeats of pearl harbor either

We defeated Japan.

... nor
were there any repeats of nagasaki...

We haven?t had to nuke Japan.

or the
oklahoma city bombing...

We caught Timothy McVeigh.

Or of the great biblical
flood.... but that doesn't mean its because the
president is doing his job....

We are not finished defeating/stopping/catching the terrorists. It does mean something that they haven?t been able to attack again.

Originally posted by Resident Guitarist:
The means are not as important as the outcome.

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ouch. thats horrible to say. of course the means
are important. its very easy to justify several
thousand... million deaths in that statement...
and that alone is just disgusting.

It?s better to have them justified, then to be like they died for nothing. Besides, I believe a lot of their deaths were needed to save many more deaths from happening over here.

Originally posted by Resident Guitarist:
I remember Clinton saying he wouldn?t raise taxes. Then he did the largest tax increase in the history of the nation.

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wait a minute... earlier you said the president
has no power over the laws/economy.....

Ok Allie, you got me on this one. I just really hate Clinton, and was looking to a random reason to bash him.

Originally posted by Resident Guitarist:
51% of the nation wanted George, deal with it.

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no.<hr /></blockquote>yes.

**Genie!** · November 20th, 2004, 08:41 AM

The election is over

The result is known

The will of the people is clearly shown

So, let's all get together

And let bitterness pass

I'll hug your elephant:

You kiss my ass

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