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Personally I belief religion has a place.
Religion has been necessary in the past on many levels.
On the most basic level however people generally have an innate desire for answers to unsolvable(as of yet) questions. A strong need to believe in something for 'completeness'.
Look at a small childs perception of the world. They have/ask many questions which do not have a simple answer that is within their understanding. As an example my son was 3years old when my grandfather died. I'm athiest so I personally didn't do the whole heaven and hell routine. When he asked where his grandfather was I simply told him he'd died. Being a small child he had no understanding what that actually meant. The idea that one day everyone just ceases to exist and that's it wasn't an acceptable answer for him. His father who is catholic gave him the whole 'when you die you go to heaven' answer and this satisfied him enough to calm his fears.
I believe early societies/man had that more niave desire for answers too. Why else would we have 'progressed' thus far academically???
Religion offers answers and an understanding(false or otherwise) when there's non to give. It is a safety net at times that i believe is necessary even in our times. There is so much that is wrong/harsh in the world people still have that need to believe it's for a purpose. It's harder to live with the idea that everything is pointless for life just ends at death - that we don't go on anywhere that we just cease to exist... believe me, my religious friends are all more relaxed about life that I am.
...I'm having to leave this here - half completed because my baby daughter needs me(she's ill and just re-awakened)...i'm sure some one will shoot these ideas down [img]tongue.gif[/img]
i think that alot of people agree with you, os...
however... [img]confused.gif[/img] ... i am not one of them [img]redface.gif[/img]
while it is true that religion offers some answer
to questions that go unanswerable....
it isn't justified to condone any answer
when one isn't found.
if we were to dissect your statement:
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">... it shows that religion DOESN'T satisfy theQuote:
Originally posted by OS:
Religion has been necessary in the past on many levels.
On the most basic level however people generally have an innate desire for answers to unsolvable(as of yet) questions. A strong need to believe in something for 'completeness' {...}
I believe early societies/man had that more niave desire for answers too. Why else would we have 'progressed' thus far academically???
desire to know, otherwise we would have not
advanced academically because we would have relieved
the primordial itch years ago.
it is religion's muffled mysticism that leaves
us full of empty mental calories... which is
later digested and expelled into direct cynicism
in reality... and for religion.
in regards to children, many people have attempted
to 'discover' the secret formula for why we
cannot grasp nihilism at birth....
it disgusts me that people are so lazy as to
settle for santa stories just to end the questioning.
i certainly don't think ANYONE should discount
the notion of nihilism to a child...
simply ask the child if they remember anything
before they were born.... cuz thats where they
go back to.
(if the child decides to fill in the 'blank'...
then so be it... but i'm a firm believe that
you shouldn't fill it in for the child)
now of course i'm not pin-pricking this subject
directly to YOU, os.... as i said before, i think
alot of people agree (i just don't know why)
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btw.... thanks for posting on this board....
as i do so welcome you
I guess if people want a security blanket that they dont have to give up at age 4 or 5 then they're welcome to live in that world.
Just dont forget the 11th Commandment.
'Thy Shalt Keep Thine Own Religion To Thyself'
DonCione
<font color="#6699ff" size="1">[ September 21, 2003 08:48 PM: Message edited by: DonCione ]</font>
OWN!!
sorry, its late and im not entirely sober.
DonCione
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">now where have i heard that one before DC lol oh yeh that would be me tonight.... [img]tongue.gif[/img]Quote:
Originally posted by DonCione:
sorry, its late and im not entirely sober.
DonCione
heh heh...
sometimes i wish i was drunk.. but hardly have
the willpower to follow through... i'm lazy like that [img]redface.gif[/img]
Being a drunk was fun, but expensive...
besides if you want to feel less and care less about the world around you all you have to do is vote Republican/Conservative.
DonCione
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">... it shows that religion DOESN'T satisfy theQuote:
Originally posted by shatzy:
if we were to dissect your statement:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by OS:
Religion has been necessary in the past on many levels. On the most basic level however people generally have an innate desire for answers to unsolvable(as of yet) questions. A strong need to believe in something for 'completeness' {...}
I believe early societies/man had that more niave desire for answers too. Why else would we have 'progressed' thus far academically???
desire to know, otherwise we would have not
advanced academically because we would have relieved the primordial itch years ago.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Religion has "evolved" over time. Scientific discovery's in the long ago past were meant with scorin and derision by the church if they somehow would affect religious dogma.
Many Religions now understand that science is a part of being human. Science and religion are exclusive of each other, reliving a primordial itch does not apply at all.