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    i've caught myself, upon numerous occasions,
    saying something along the lines of:

    (example) "...seeing how that family lives
    in dire poverty, i certainly appreciate what
    i have."

    appreciate is similar to 'am thankful for'...

    but to whom/what am i thankful to??

    to where/whom is this statement/compulsion directed to??

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    holy crap that is one of the most perplexing things ive ever seen im going to have to think about that

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    hmmm. i think it's more a case of semantics, you're stuck with the word thankfull to describe your state, while you'd probably better use a word along the lines of "content" or "Happy with my situation".
    Personally i think it's just a form of linguistic lock-in, the word thankfull was probably first used in a situation between a subject and object, and now the word is also used for just subject-type phrases.

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    i see what you are saying completely.

    its almost as if, by stating that to myself,
    i'm presupposing the answer already. kinda
    like: "what is the meaning of life"

    its as if, when i'm appreciative... somehow the
    cosmos had destined me to be in this place...
    which, in a way, says alot about myself... or
    my society... or my language. [img]confused.gif[/img]

    i've noticed that this statement (about appreciation)
    is rather cliche... LOTS of people say it.

    sometimes i see visions/images IRL and i get
    so overwhelmed and i ACTUALLY think it to myself.

    why?!?!?

    is it because i'm a product of my culture/society?
    it would appear so.

    is my prompt to feel overwhelmed (with appreciation???)
    ALSO a product of my culture/society???

    [img]eek.gif[/img]

    if that's the case... then doesn't that also
    necessitate that my very being is conventionally made???

    is everything i'm asking rhetorical??? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

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    [img]redface.gif[/img] [img]redface.gif[/img] [img]redface.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/angel.gif[/img]

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    Must you ask?

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    Gratitude is a form of humility. Without gratitude, we would all just be jerks all of the time. Humility
    is extremely important if one does not believe in religion.

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    Now, lets take this a step farther.

    Is it possible that a non-religious person who can be humbled by their "fortunateness" is perhaps more of what God visualized than a God fearing person who
    worships God but falls short in their relationship to other humans.

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    Originally posted by Alex:
    Humility is extremely important if one does not believe in religion.
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">this can open up a thousand cans of worms....
    as one has to clearly define what it means to be
    'humble'/'humility'.

    if being 'humble' is merely just a term used to
    describe an expression of a certain perspective
    that has been dramatically transformed into another
    adjacent perspective.... then i'll agree.

    Originally posted by Alex:
    Is it possible that a non-religious person who can be humbled by their "fortunateness" is perhaps more of what God visualized than a God fearing person who
    worships God but falls short in their relationship to other humans.
    <font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">you aren't really making a legitimate statement
    here. when you say 'non-religious'... i interpret
    that as meaning anyone that doesn't practice
    ritual in order to satisfy a certain criteria...

    with that said, i'm not sure what you meant in particular.

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    I define humility in the following manner.

    The following is an oxymoron....

    "I am a humble person"

    .........

    calling oneself humble is in essence bragging about being humble. Humility simply means "no matter what I think of myself", there is more for me to discover and learn from others, and from books.

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