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    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SHATOUSHKA:
    works for me.

    however, sure would have to be careful where you blow that plane up. i think it would take more than that. calculating the amount of time to last communique from the pilot, analyzing the poison (which may or may not have different effects on different people), assuming the second pilot never made it back, how fast the plane was plummeting, etc etc etc

    blowing the plane out of the sky may not necessarily be the most logical thing to do. remember, you cannot blow the plane into dust, parts of the newly erraticated plane must fall...
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    I really don't want to mastermind this....but if I can think of this, then you can guarantee terrorists have ALREADY thought of it.

    A drug that reacts to adrenaline and induces unconciousness when adrenaline is present.

    So, when one pilot has gone to the bathroom at the back of the plane, a pre-planned "situation" is created among a couple of the passengers.

    The pilot locks himself/herself into the cockpit, the adrenaline rush they are experiencing reacts with the secret ingredient that has been put into the pilot's coffee.

    As the "situation unfolds, and the one remaining pilot locks the cockpit and bolts the door, his adrenaline naturally kicks in, which will soon render him unconscious.

    After the newly ordained position of marshall on board heroically disables the perpetrator of the faux "situation" that has been created at the back of the plane, the other pilot can no longer get into the cockpit because the other pilot is unconscious, and the door to cockpit is locked from the inside.

    An unconscious pilot in the cockpit, alone, and the door leading to the cockpit SECURELY bolted so no one can gain access.....hmmmmmmm....

    Hey, I'm just pointing out the pitfalls of an arrogant Government that places no value on educating it's own well educated passengers on what their role is in the event of a crisis situation on a plane, it's been almost a month now, and our role as a passenger has not been strengthened even one teeny tiny iota.

    It seems to be all about what the government is going to do for us, without our assistance, and their going to spend a whole lot of our money to do it.

    The arrogance is suffocating.


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    I'm curious about the proposed Safety Marshalls that will now be on board every flight.

    What if they fall asleep?

    Can't someone grab their gun before they can react because everyone is so packed together?

    How do you wake a Marshall up without humiliating them and perhaps then they are pissed off at you for not knowing the difference between deep thought and deep sleep.

    Now that the War is started, I guess we won't hear much about the passengers role in the event of a hostage situation while a plane is in flight.

    Will an announcement at least be added by the stewards and stewardesses before flights leave regarding what passengers should do in the event of a "situation" during a flight?

    I don't plan on traveling on a plane until I believe all the passengers think alike about what to do. Right now, I think there would be so many divergent views that would only lead to additioanal trouble and panic.



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    Today I heard on the radio that a mental patient rushed the cockpit in the middle of a flight and screamed for everybody "to stand up, we're all gonna die!"

    Ten passengers helped subdue him.

    Proves my point, ten angry passengers are BETTER than one holstered gun.

    The plane was "escorted" by two fighter planes back to the airport.

    Being "escorted" by fighter planes that have orders to shoot to destroy if the plane even veers a little bit off course, now that is scary!


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    I just can't comprehend a flight marshal on board every flight.

    What do they do, stare down all the passengers? Read? Look straight ahead and say nothing?

    Are they allowed to watch the in-flight Movie?

    Will it be okay to turn the lights off to watch the movie?

    Can they peer onto your computer screen to see what you are writing?

    Where does the flight Marshall sit on the plane, in the back so they can observe everyone, or in the front, with their back to everyone, but closer to the cockpit?

    Just curious. I'm not against the idea of a flight Marshall, but, what if they do fall asleep?

    And can an oxbnoxious kid kick them in the shin without getting the kid's parents arrested?

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    Does it really matter where they sit? If they are outnumbered will they be able to do more than the other passengers?
    What about the security as well? The biggest problem with terrorists is that one cannot distinguish between a terrorist and a normal person. What if one of the marshals is a terrorist, who signs up to be a marshal, is GIVEN a weapon when they get on the plane, and then does whatever he/she wants? The same thing with pilots. How can someone distinguish a terrorist pilot?

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    Can I have my bag of peanuts now?

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    The fact of the matter is that with current security procedures, a would-be hijacker, or even many will not have access to a gun. In fact, they will only be able to sneak in a nail-file, or toe-nail clippers or at worst, some box cutters like used in these hijackings.

    Under no circumstances should the pilot's door ever be opened. Under no circumstances should a would be hijacker have that door opened. Not even for a second. If it's open for even the shortest period, he is dead. That's a fact. If the door is ever opened, he is dead and everyone dies.

    There must be resolve in the cockpit that no matter what the hijacker does in the back, his door never opens.

    From the back of the aircraft, there is nothing that can be done to crash the plane. Someone mentioned opening the doors or something, fact of that matter is that airplane doors open IN, they might be able to be twisted after opening so that it will eventually open out, but at first it opens IN. An airplane is pressurized during flight, even at 5 psi, distributed over the huge area of the airplane door, there is no way a human can physically break the seal while the plane remains pressurized. So, short of using a gun or a bomb, there is no way to crash a plane from the back.

    This leaves us with 5 men holding knives versus probably at least 30 innocent people who don't want to die. Even with machetes, if the passengers were determined (such as is the case when fearing for life) the hijackers don't stand a chance against the passengers if they get it in their head to rush.

    All in all, the marshals are just a symbolic gesture, the tightened security is shutting the barn door after the horse has already escaped. The only real matter is that the DOOR MUST NEVER OPEN, even if lives in the back are at stake. If the hijackers are resolved enough to actually kill people, the passengers are going to kill them. This is what standard procedure should be, and i agree that there should be a method for distributing this information.

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    Great to see Shatzy has gotten over her fear of peeing.

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    Yes if my plane got Hijjacked I'd **** mysef stick my head between my legs and kiss my *** goodbye then CALL IN RAINBOW SIX!

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