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    Re: Essentials

    How does Mold Shambler make your list but the better Acidic Ooze, that costs one less and has deathtouch (and -1/-1) doesnt?

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    Re: Essentials

    What about Shards Block?

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    Re: Essentials

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbe View Post
    How does Mold Shambler make your list but the better Acidic Ooze, that costs one less and has deathtouch (and -1/-1) doesnt?
    Mold Shambler hits planeswalkers

    Anyway, these are suggestions... so add cards you think might be viable as well. acidic slime is pretty good too especially cause of death touch.
    -JRR

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    Re: Essentials

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    What about Shards Block?
    I just found out that he missed Alara Reborn, so I will do that later.
    -JRR

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    Re: Essentials

    Quote Originally Posted by jrr View Post
    Mold Shambler hits planeswalkers

    Anyway, these are suggestions... so add cards you think might be viable as well. Acidic Slime is pretty good too especially cause of death touch.
    True, but I want to point out that Mold Shambler doesn;t kill artifact creatures, Acidic Slime does.

    Neither here nor there, as I think both rock. I thinlk there's room for a great Disenchant effect or two that can also act as card advantage, and Acidic Slime hhas a better chance with deathtouch, but I love the Shambler too

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    Re: Essentials

    I had actually forgotten it had death touch until I looked it up again last night. So I consider acidic slime added as a contender. Obviously, not every card I listed here will make it in, but we do have 50 more cards to work with now!
    -JRR

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    Re: Essentials

    Alara Reborn stuff that comes to mind...

    Anathemancer - Great late game draw, can come back if drawn early to finish someone
    Behemoth Sledge - Armadillo cloak without the inherent drawback of the 2 for 1
    Dauntless Escort - saves the team vs. wrath and most other board wipes
    Deathbringer Thoctar - same ability as the vulture, but can function as removal as well
    Enigma Sphinx - big enough to cascade into bombs, big enough to be a threat
    Jenara, Asura of War - mana sink and good size to begin with
    Lavalanche - fireball + controlled board wipe...this sucks to be on the recieving end of
    Lightning Reaver - gets killed as soon as it gets a counter
    Lord of Extinction - really big and scary but needs trample or some other oomph...
    Maelstrom Nexus - Cascading everything sounds good to me
    Maelstrom Pulse - NO. It gets splash damage to kill your good stuffs too
    Mage Slayer - Remember the guys that used to do this? Now you can do it with good creatures
    Necromancers Covenant - great late game draw, but terrible after any of the timetwister type things we play
    Predatory Advantage - don't laugh, this one is one of those things that look bad until you see it sit in a 3-5 player game and make a horde
    Qasali Pridemage - duh...
    Sen Triplets - it's like mindslaver, but more fun. Dies way faster too...
    Slave of Bolas - another way to steal guys to block and kill
    Soul Manipulation - maybe good enough, but I'm not sold on it
    Sphinx of the Steel Wind - robo akroma anyone?
    Trace of abundance - seems good, but I don't remember how stable the mana is
    Unscythe, Killer of Kings - yay for raising an army from someone elses army
    Vengeful Rebirth - overcosted regrowth that is also a bolt or more
    Wall of Denial - huge and blocks just about everything
    Wargate - finds a guy and drops him into play, but kind of pricy mana wise
    Winged Coatl - surprise! your guy is dead

    the 5 guys with allied color land cycling should all be there if E. Dragon still makes the cut

    Remember, I made this list at 1 am and I think more in terms of EDH than I do for 250 anymore. There are some others that I threw into my deck before I dismantled it for EDH that were just terrible.

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    Re: Essentials

    Okay, I'm going to start work on this again soon. Later this week Mel's laptop comes, so no more sharing computer time. Also, if I can get mine out of the tiny corner it is sitting in I'll feel like spending more time on it.

    Okay, I have the current deck. I will post that list when I begin work. My last excel version is about 6 months before we left. It wasn't updated for Shards or Conflux. I do have a list of all the cards that were "left behind" (or taken out) prior to Shards. Those will all likely be up for consideration again.

    We'll need to find a copy of the 5-Color banned list prior to the big change over. All of the cards that used to be banned, and now aren't, will likely be up for consideration.

    We needed worry about lands that only produce mana. If it does something extra, then we can both to care.

    Lastly, should the new 5-Color Essentials remain physical cards only or should it allow proxies? Should the new Essentials play full power? Now that proxies are allowed, shouldn't every 5-Color deck? Or, should the Essentials remain physical cards only as to show the potential of the format without proxies? Should it just show the best of everything and allow them? Questions. Now we need some answers.

    Debate on that. We'll get to the lists soon enough.
    *mooooooooo*

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    Re: Essentials

    Plus the new RotE stuff like All is Dust and other goodies that are out there.

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    Re: Essentials

    Old Ban (Jan 09):
    Battle of Wits
    Bringer Of The Black Dawn
    Crucible of Worlds
    Demonic Consultation
    Flash
    Gifts Ungiven
    Holistic Wisdom
    Imperial Seal
    Insidious Dreams
    Intuition
    Mystical Tutor
    Oath of Druids
    Panoptic Mirror
    Parallel Thoughts
    Phyrexian Portal
    Shahrazad
    Sundering Titan
    Survival of the Fittest
    Time Walk
    Tinker
    Vampiric Tutor
    Wild Research
    Yawgmoth's Bargain
    Yawgmoth's Will

    Up for consideration:
    Crucible of Worlds
    Demonic Consultation
    Flash
    Gifts Ungiven
    Imperial Seal
    Intuition
    Mystical Tutor
    Oath of Druids
    Panoptic Mirror
    Survival of the Fittest
    Time Walk
    Tinker
    Vampiric Tutor
    Wild Research
    Yawgmoth's Bargain
    Yawgmoth's Will

    Well shit, that's a lot to consider.
    *mooooooooo*

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