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    Re: M11

    If I would have seen this active I would have jumped in earlier. I'm in total agreement with dropping the Magus for Time Reversal. Lately whenever I play, I don't enjoy waiting for the Magus to rid his summoning suck. Everything else, as Aaron stated, I'm in agreement with. My only argument would be that Primeval Titan is too much, but who cares now? The proxy-ness of 5-color is amazing!
    -Chad

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    Re: M11

    Yeppers, paying actual dollars for these cards would make me a bit more wary. Proxies seem to rule though. Just have to look for a good drop for P.Titan.
    *mooooooooo*

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    Re: M11

    Up to date list?
    -Chad

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    Re: M11

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    Re: M11

    Thank you, but what to the **'s mean?
    -Chad

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    Re: M11

    Does anyone else feel that Elspeth is a bit light in power, for multiplayer, for this deck?

    I think that's where I would put Sun Titan

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    Re: M11

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbe View Post
    Does anyone else feel that Elspeth is a bit light in power, for multiplayer, for this deck?

    I think that's where I would put Sun Titan
    In play, I've found Elspeth to be decent. Her early abilities are innocuous. Very easy to overlook. The ultimate would be amazing to pull. I mostly put her in because Jason has been saying we're undervaluing planewalkers. I wanted to give a couple of the better ones a shot to make sure we haven't been doing so.
    *mooooooooo*

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    Re: M11

    I know I'm going to get reamed for this, but I think Forbid could go. If there were more counters in the deck I see it being good, but only as a one of two hard counters (if you include Draining Whelk) I don't find it to be worth it.
    -Chad

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    Re: M11

    Quote Originally Posted by cmorndorf View Post
    I know I'm going to get reamed for this, but I think Forbid could go. If there were more counters in the deck I see it being good, but only as a one of two hard counters (if you include Draining Whelk) I don't find it to be worth it.
    I'm not upset by that.

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    Re: M11

    Quote Originally Posted by kerbythepurplecow View Post
    In play, I've found Elspeth to be decent. Her early abilities are innocuous. Very easy to overlook. The ultimate would be amazing to pull. I mostly put her in because Jason has been saying we're undervaluing planewalkers. I wanted to give a couple of the better ones a shot to make sure we haven't been doing so.
    Great, she's a Luminescent Angel without the Angel part. Whoop-dee.

    Better PWs that are not in your deck would be:

    Ajani Goldmane
    Sorin Markhov
    Liliana Frekin' Vess
    perhaps Nicol Bolas
    Sarkhan Vol


    The Kitchen Table #320 ? Planeswalkers and Multiplayer, by Abe Sargent - a Magic: the Gathering Multiplayer article

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