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    Re: The Essential Update!

    Okay, lots to update. First, updated deck list. This doesn't reflect our land discussions. Otherwise, it's been updated to reflect the changes you suggested. I didn't feel any need to argue about them as they seem to be good changes.

    Behemoth Sledge
    Bosh, Iron Golem
    Citanul Flute
    Crucible of Worlds
    Darksteel Colossus
    Darksteel Sentinel
    Etched Oracle
    Expedition Map
    Fellwar Stone
    Gilded Lotus
    Memory Jar
    Mind's Eye
    Mox Crystal
    Mox Diamond
    Mox Emerald
    Mox Jet
    Mox Pearl
    Mox Ruby
    Mox Saphire
    Nevinyrral's Disk
    Panoptic Mirror
    Scroll Rack
    Sensei's Divining Top
    Skullclamp
    Sol Ring
    Solemn Simulacrum
    Sword of Fire and Ice
    Sword of Vengeance
    Sunforger
    Tawnos's Coffin
    Umezawa's Jitte
    Vedalken Orrery

    All is Dust
    Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
    Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre

    Academy Ruins
    Arid Mesa
    Badlands
    Bayou
    Blood Pit
    Bloodstained Mire
    Bojuka Bog
    Breeding Pool
    Emeria, the Sky Ruin
    Exotic Orchard
    Flagstones of Trokair
    Flooded Strand
    Forbidden Orchard
    Forest -10
    Godless Shrine
    Hallowed Fountain
    Island - 8
    Karakas
    Kor Haven
    Krosan Verge
    Lavaclaw Reaches
    Library of Alexandria
    Llanowar Reborn
    Marsh Flats
    Maze of Ith
    Misty Rainforest
    Mountain - 5
    Murmuring Bosk
    Nimbus Maze
    Overgrown Tomb
    Petrified Field
    Plains - 9
    Plateau
    Polluted Delta
    Reflecting Pool
    Sacred Foundry
    Savannah
    Scalding Tarn
    Scrubland
    Steam Vents
    Stomping Ground
    Strip Mine
    Swamp - 6
    Taiga
    Temple Garden
    Terramorphic Expanse
    Tolaria West
    Tropical Island
    Tundra
    Underground Sea
    Urborg
    Verdant Catacombs
    Vesuva
    Volcanic Island
    Volrath's Stronghold
    Wasteland
    Watery Grave
    Windswept Heath
    Wooded Foothills
    Yavimaya Hollow
    Zoetic Cavern

    Avatar of Woe
    Bane of the Living
    Contract from Below
    Damnation
    Decree of Pain
    Demonic Tutor
    Diabolic Tutor
    Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
    Exsanguinate
    Guiltfeeder
    Kokusho, the Evening Star
    Living Death
    Mortivore
    Oversold Cemetary
    Recurring Nightmare
    Sudden Death
    Suffer the Past
    Tortured Existence
    Vampiric Tutor
    Yawgmoth's Will

    Allied Strategies
    Ancestral Recall
    Ancestral Vision
    Arcanis the Omnipotent
    Bribery
    Bringer of the Blue Dawn
    Compulsion
    Cunning Wish
    Draining Whelk
    Drift of Phantasms
    Fact or Fiction
    Future Sight
    Gifts Ungiven
    Intuition
    Jace, the Mind Sculptor
    Leyline of Anticipation
    Mystical Teachings
    Mystical Tutor
    Recurring Insight
    Rite of Replication
    Sphinx of Magosi
    Stroke of Genius
    Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
    Thada Adel, Acquisitor
    Time Reversal
    Time Spiral
    Time Walk
    Timetwister
    Tinker
    Trinket Mage
    Willbender
    Wonder

    Anathemancer
    Brion Strongarm
    Conflux
    Eladamri's Call
    Fight to the Death
    Hellkite Overlord
    Hull Breach
    Jund Charm
    Knight of the Reliquary
    Madrush Cyclops
    Maelstrom Nexus
    Maelstrom Pulse
    Meglonoth
    Mirari's Wake
    Mystic Enforcer
    Oros, the Avenger
    Pernicious Deed
    Prince of Thralls
    Putrefy
    Rafiq of the Many
    Sarkhan Vol
    Shadowmage Infiltrator
    Simic Sky Swallower
    Sol'kanar the Swamp King
    Spiritmonger
    Sterling Grove
    Teneb, the Harvester
    Terminate
    Vhati il-Dal
    Vindicate
    Vulturous Zombie
    Wrexial, the Risen Deep

    Fire/Ice

    Acidic Slime
    All Suns' Dawn
    Birds of Paradise
    Chameleon Colossus
    Cultivate
    Defense of the Heart
    Eternal Witness
    Genesis
    Genesis Wave
    Hermit Druid
    Hibernation's End
    Joiner Adept
    Kodama's Reach
    Krosan Tusker
    Life from the Loam
    Living Wish
    Nantuko Vigilante
    Nostalgic Dreams
    Pattern of Rebirth
    Primeval Titan
    Prismatic Omen
    Protean Hulk
    Raking Canopy
    Realms Uncharted
    Recollect
    Regrowth
    Restock
    Scapeshift
    Shard Convergence
    Silklash Spider
    Silvos, Rogue Elemental
    Spike Weaver
    Survival of the Fittest
    Sylvan Library
    Sylvan Scrying
    Terastodon
    Thornscape Battlemage
    Tooth and Nail
    Wall of Blossoms
    Yavimaya Elder

    Akroma, Angel of Fury
    Anger
    Arc-slogger
    Burning Wish
    Flameblast Dragon
    Flametounge Kavu
    Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs
    Magmaw
    Rakavolver
    Recoup
    Stigma Lasher
    Wheel of Fortune

    Academy Rector
    Akroma, Angel of Wrath
    Akroma's Vengeance
    Balance
    Commander Eesha
    Crib Swap
    Deathless Angel
    Decree of Justice
    Dismantling Blow
    Enlightened Tutor
    Eternal Dragon
    Exalted Angel
    Glory
    Hallowed Burial
    Indomitable Ancients
    Land Tax
    Marshal's Anthem
    Martial Coup
    Oblation
    Orim's Thunder
    Path to Exile
    Pristine Angel
    Reya, Dawnbringer
    Rout
    Spirit of the Hearth
    Stoneforge Mystic
    Stonehewer Giant
    Sun Titan
    Sunblast Angel
    Swords to Plowshares
    Tithe
    Weathered Wayfarer
    Wing Shards
    Wrath of God
    *mooooooooo*

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    Re: The Essential Update!

    Okay, with that stuff worked out, on to the lands.

    I have been trying to minimize CIPT lands since they can slow the deck down so much. I made an exception for Bojuka Bog because I thought the effect was well worth it. As for the rest of that cycle, Halimar Depths seems like it might be worth it, but I'm underwhelmed by the others.

    CIPT lands:
    Bojuka Bog
    Shock Duals
    Emeria
    Krosan Verge
    Lavaclaw Reaches
    Llanowar Reborn
    Tolaria West
    Vesuva

    The weakest on that list are Bojuka and Llanowar Reborn, but they're good. Should I slow down for a plant?

    Rupture Spire seems great if I can drop it on the 2nd turn. After I fix my mana, won't it be a resource draw? CIPT and costs me a mana?

    New Maze seems decent. More expensive than Kor Haven, but Maze effects are worthwhile. I like that Prahv prevents any source. That seems really good. I am wary of the mana investment to use either.

    As for Sun Quan, we have not yet discussed him for the Essentials. He should probably get a spot. He wins games. There's lots of creatures he could replace. Oros? Chameleon Colossus?
    *mooooooooo*

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    Re: The Essential Update!

    Quote Originally Posted by kerbythepurplecow View Post
    Okay, with that stuff worked out, on to the lands.

    I have been trying to minimize CIPT lands since they can slow the deck down so much. I made an exception for Bojuka Bog because I thought the effect was well worth it. As for the rest of that cycle, Halimar Depths seems like it might be worth it, but I'm underwhelmed by the others.

    CIPT lands:
    Bojuka Bog
    Shock Duals
    Emeria
    Krosan Verge
    Lavaclaw Reaches
    Llanowar Reborn
    Tolaria West
    Vesuva

    The weakest on that list are Bojuka and Llanowar Reborn, but they're good. Should I slow down for a plant?

    Rupture Spire seems great if I can drop it on the 2nd turn. After I fix my mana, won't it be a resource draw? CIPT and costs me a mana?

    New Maze seems decent. More expensive than Kor Haven, but Maze effects are worthwhile. I like that Prahv prevents any source. That seems really good. I am wary of the mana investment to use either.

    As for Sun Quan, we have not yet discussed him for the Essentials. He should probably get a spot. He wins games. There's lots of creatures he could replace. Oros? Chameleon Colossus?

    I agree that it's time for Oros to take a break, head to the sidelines, and drink some Gatorade.

    Since you have a lot of cards that need three or four mana of a color, I think we can;t refuse Rupture Spire. Even with some duels, it helps. Tapping for every color is too important not to play, even with a little tempo loss.

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    Re: The Essential Update!

    Does Treasure Mage warrant a spot?




    TreasureMage


    This one is obvious:


    BlightsteelColossus



    Also obvious


    ConsecratedSphinx


    What about this?



    PhyrexianRebirth


    This outclasses Mortivore easily


    Bonehoard


    And what about this?



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    Re: The Essential Update!

    Treasure Mage only tutors for Bosh, DSC, and likely that there BSC.

    BSC, yes please.

    Sphinx, double yes please. Although he'll never last long. Like a 6 mana duress for removal

    Rebirth seems nice. I like wraths that offer tricks since we aren't short of availability.

    Mortivore still regenerates. Without that, he'd just be another big/big with no evasion. This is good too though. The equipping gives it that edge that regeneration gives mortivore. I'd rather have both than either/or.

    Black Sun is interesting. That X gives a lot of leeway to play.
    *mooooooooo*

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    Re: The Essential Update!

    I'm sure no one else will want this, but I like it:



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    Re: The Essential Update!

    BSC is obvious, so do we replace DSC with BSC? One more mana and a whole lot better...
    -Chad

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    Re: The Essential Update!

    THIS IS MEGA NASTY. Seriously.



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    Another:


    Better than Sheild of Kaldra by a ton:


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    Re: The Essential Update!

    Holy shit! That plate is amazing and damned cheap.

    The Councel.... if you can cast that... :O :O words... there are none.
    *mooooooooo*

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    Re: The Essential Update!

    what's the essentials plan post-California? Are we keeping the band together?

    There are going to be some nifty Commander cards that will need to be added as well.

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