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    I just want to gloat. : )

    Check out what I bought 2 days ago for 20 bucks!!! No it's not a joke, 20 Freakin Bucks!!!!!!!!! somebody loves me. : )

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    Re: I just want to gloat. : )

    By the way if you know what year or model these are I sure would appreciate knowing.....to think 2 days ago if somebody asked me what Altec Lansing was I wouldn't have known.....sometimes it takes people a while to get educated. oh yeah I hooked them up today and they sounded crazy awesome!!!!!!!

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    Re: I just want to gloat. : )

    The cabinets are Heathkit AS-101 cabs from the 1970's (I used to own a pair--they are similar to the Altec Flamencos) with new grill cloth and internal modifications to accommodate the Altec Duplex drivers that are in there now..... The AS 101's would have come stock with an Altec 416 woofer and Altec 811B horn/806 driver with Heathkit part numbers on them..... Looks like someone removed the original Altec drivers and put in the Altec Duplexes and crossovers (which, if in good condition, are excellent drivers). If you really want to learn how to make these speakers sound their best, there are people here who may be able to give you advice on how to tune the cabinets (by adjusting the port size) as it looks like the "ports" (the open hole where the horn used to fit) may be too large for the cabinet/driver combination although I don't get a great view of the "ports" from your photos--it looks like their size has already been modified somewhat. Properly tuned cabinets will get a much better bass response. Before the cabinet modifications were done, the hole for the horns would have been above the woofers (the reverse of their position now). By the way, twenty dollars is of course an unbelievable deal just for working vintage Altec crossovers, let alone the drivers (which are the most valuable part of those speakers) and the cabinets.....

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    Re: I just want to gloat. : )

    You should feel ashamed.:lollipop:
    Opinion is only as valid as its verifiable supporting evidence.

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    Re: I just want to gloat. : )

    Thanks Vot, I thought it was odd that the cabs were made from particle board. I would have thought plywood would have been the wood of choice if they were real flamincos. I am almost 1000 percent sure these were purchased for our theater here at the local community college which is where I work. They were dragged out of storage and slated for auction but when there wasn't enough stuff to hold the auction they decided that it would become a first come first served situation so when I called to get them the lady told me I was 3rd in line for them I thought for sure they would be gone but as luck would have it the first two passed them up and I jumped on them like a kid on a trampoline even though I had no idea what they were, could have been fake props for a play for as far as I knew. It all worked out in the end though. ; )

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    Re: I just want to gloat. : )

    That's a killer deal. Amazing, really.

    Nice that you now know what they are and that you like them. Seems like they went to a good home. Welcome to the wonderful world of Altec! :welcome:

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    Re: I just want to gloat. : )

    Quote Originally Posted by voice of the theater View Post
    The cabinets are Heathkit AS-101 cabs from the 1970's (I used to own a pair--they are similar to the Altec Flamencos) with new grill cloth and internal modifications to accommodate the Altec Duplex drivers that are in there now.....
    Are you sure this isn't a Heathkit as is or an Altec custom done by Barzilay? I mean it looks too professional/extensive to be a re-work of a 101, plus (and it's a big plus to me) it's a double bass reflex (DBR) tuning which was virtually unknown (and still is to great extent) at the time except in professional circles and serious DIYers that read a variety of audio magazines.

    For sure, it's the first I've seen from back then beyond its inventor George Augsberger's early '60s JBL cab. There's software to design them now, but back then it was strictly empirically tuned, at least at the DIY level.

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    Re: I just want to gloat. : )

    A$$hole! Just kidding. GREAT FIND and GREAT PURCHASE!

    Carefully remove the speakers and send us photos. One White and one Green, might be quite different. There were many models of the duplexes.

    Green = early 604 or 605. Whites were later 604's. E's I believe. The surrounds changed after the first 604's from paper to accordian cloth. 605's were all accordian surrounds.

    $20? I spent that on dinner last night. (In Hawaii)

    Crank em up! Use tubes.

    Shoot, I post and 5 guys post while I'm posting......

    And ask the same questions I have......we love Altec. You will too.

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    Re: I just want to gloat. : )

    I forgot my camera so I just went and looked at the back of the ones at work, they're 9844's.

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    Re: I just want to gloat. : )

    Quote Originally Posted by voice of the theater View Post
    I've never heard of a Heathkit speaker that looks like the AS 101 that housed Altec Duplex drivers--only the 416/811b/806 combo in that particular cabinet (as far as I know).

    As far as them being Barzilay (Altec custom), if they are, then externally they are copies of the Heathkit AS 101's. Would Barzilay have copied another manufacturers outside appearance?
    No, if anything, others used theirs as design guides.

    I don't recall a duplex loaded Heathkit and my memory of the details of the various furniture styles they offered has all but vanished except for the early '70's contemporary looking one with the lattice grill (the last model offered?), though I recall a Mediterranean style somewhere along the line, but this is such a rare loading scheme in what would be an extensive rework of an existing cab that one has to wonder why a DIYer would bother since for a HIFI app it works well enough as a simple BR.

    Combined with getting these from a local theater and you confirming it as externally a factory cab, this strongly implies a Heathkit design, so for now these will remain an enigma with no real vintage value beyond the drivers.


    BTW, these apparently have a riser base underneath, so did yours? I don't recall them having one.

    cradeldorf:

    Is there any stampings or other markings, stickers anywhere on the cab, maybe even behind some insulation or on the bottom?

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