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    Re: Mod thoughts, regarding stock ALTEC Model 19 crossovers.

    Quote Originally Posted by LowOhms View Post
    The new owner is a typical ALTEC fan,
    Jeff .... Low Ohms
    I would assume you pointed him to this site, right?
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    Re: Mod thoughts, regarding stock ALTEC Model 19 crossovers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-G View Post
    I would assume you pointed him to this site, right?

    No, not yet. I have to break him of the many bad habits ( IMHO ) that people follow with ALTEC speakers. He is all screwed up as it is now. IMHO. Subwoofers, complains about no " sparkle" up top, etc etc etc.

    The ONLY way I can help him, straighten him out, is to finish my new SET DC 2A3 amps, and invite him over for a good A7-800 listen. Then, hopefully, he will get on board. Need to re-do my amps.

    Heck, I have two or three months of DIY work ahead , just to get "proper" reference-quality amps. THEN, I will have him visit.

    I am only NOW designing these amps' custom Power Transformers.

    The amps' direct coupled two stage circuit I have computed and simulated, but there will be brand new lay-out challenges, because I am incorporating experimental ( 1500 Ampere peak ) film caps, in three key / critical power supply locations, and the caps are each very large. Industrial parts , 3 inches in diameter.

    We met, face to face, and he saw my set up, so I believe we will have a continuing relationship. LOL, he mildly boasted about owning 2,000 CDs, and so, I refered him to 10,000 LPs in a spare bedroom. Hes a nice guy, electronics technician.

    Just need him to "hear it all", as I hope to execute this in the coming months. Some of the crossover mod ideas I had for Model 19s, I HOPE to have the new owner execute at his place. I gifted him with about 100 feet of Mil Spec M22759/11 wire, ( double 12 AWG as lead ins to the crossover's input - and for each woofer polarity, 16 AWG to the 802s ) so that he can totally eliminate every inch of the stock ALTEC internal wiring, as his very first step.

    " An inch of bad wire can ruin the musical experience ", Robert W. Fulton 1925-1988.

    Jeff ....Low Ohms
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    Re: Mod thoughts, regarding stock ALTEC Model 19 crossovers.

    Quote Originally Posted by LowOhms View Post
    No, not yet. I have to break him of the many bad habits ( IMHO ) that people follow with ALTEC speakers.
    Jeff ....Low Ohms
    so instead of pointing him towards people with practical experience. you believe you need to indoctrinate this person in your personal beliefs, before he can be trusted not to follow the faulty thinking of the population of this board. is this correct?
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    Re: Mod thoughts, regarding stock ALTEC Model 19 crossovers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil-G View Post
    so instead of pointing him towards people with practical experience. you believe you need to indoctrinate this person in your personal beliefs, before he can be trusted not to follow the faulty thinking of the population of this board. is this correct?
    Very good, you got it !!

    And I would love to know your definition of "practical experience". Oh.. never mind.

    I have been listening to ALTECS for 72 years, and I have been mentored by two of the very best people I have ever personally met, in my entire life, in audio.

    You would be cordially invited to hear my rig, A7-800s, in about 4 to 5 months, if you ever get to Kansas City. You, or any serious listener, can be the judge, from your DIRECT ( not perceived - indirect ) experience . The proof of the pudding.....

    Jeff Medwin....Low Ohms.
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    Re: Mod thoughts, regarding stock ALTEC Model 19 crossovers.

    The Sorcerer's Apprentice.

    (The Disney film, Fantasia, had the very first stereo recording as its soundtrack).
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    Re: Mod thoughts, regarding stock ALTEC Model 19 crossovers.

    Going out on a limb here, but the collective practical experience here would be approaching several hundred years. Quite a few of which are from Altec employees, subcontractors, and professional sound technitions.
    I figured out I didn't know everything In my thirties.
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    Re: Mod thoughts, regarding stock ALTEC Model 19 crossovers.

    I think most of us here have different tastes in equipment, setup, and music. The one thing common being Altec. I think thats what makes us individuals. It would be boring if we all had the same damn setup.
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    Re: Mod thoughts, regarding stock ALTEC Model 19 crossovers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elitopus1 View Post
    I think most of us here have different tastes in equipment, setup, and music. The one thing common being Altec. I think that is what makes us individuals. It would be boring if we all had the same damn setup.

    Nicely put. To have a worthwhile board, each of us should be able to state what they think, respectfully, honestly, and be able to disagree. That way, we interchange ideas and perhaps grow, learn from each other.

    There is a HECK of a lot more to putting a good sounding ALTEC system together, IMHO, than the speakers themselves. Every aspect of the audio chain needs to be addressed and properly executed, if one seeks the best achievable result, within the bounds of their financial means and understanding.

    Jeff ... Low Ohms

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    Re: Mod thoughts, regarding stock ALTEC Model 19 crossovers.

    But it also means that if someone wants to use lamp cord, or oil caps, maybe even use 515's as subwoofers in their car, they are not wrong. They just have a different opinion of what they like or what sounds good.

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    Re: Mod thoughts, regarding stock ALTEC Model 19 crossovers.

    Hmm, I have my limits, a 515 wouldn't last long in a car trunk unless it's a later ferrite motor, so there's a point where gross ignorance of a subject comes into play.

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