tempo?!

...Like he said. When between 90-120 is key, but then go up by 5's: 90,95,100,105... all the way to 120 or 130, then back to 10's. That is what i would say. Then i would say GET A METRONOME! Not having one is like not having sticks... it is our duty to keep time better than anyone (when you strip it down all the way, we don't have a true melodic intrument so rhythm is all we have! All we do is keep time!). If you don't buy one, then i will have to do some good will and buy you one for Christmas...and you think i am joking! [img]wink.gif[/img]
Here is an ass kicking to see where your tempo stands: Program whole notes at 20bpm... do that for fun and prepare to cry (i did).
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Yes. In 5 bpm intervals.
From 50 to 200. Each track 3 minutes, for example.
Also it?s interesting to have tempo tracks with a clear ONE.So make a different sound in the ONE.

but....the metronome is waiting for you in the shop.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ November 23, 2004 02:59 AM: Message edited by: JuanExpo ]</font>

When studying jazz cymbal time with my old teacher Bob Armstrong, he made me aware of certain key tempos that affected the arm movements and piece of technique that was used to generate a good swing feel.

I found that a slow ride feel was generated from 40-110 bpm (or around that mark). At this point the quarter note was felt and the elbow movement was exagerated. The elbow would be in the 'in' position on beats 1&3 and pushed out on the 2&4

At around 120 bpm there would be a cross over point: From around 120-230 bpm, there comes a point where the time would 'get up and go for a walk' as he put it! At this point, there is a definite forward motion and the time would dance more. Here the elbow would be felt in the 'in' position on beats 2&4 and 'out' on 1&3.

Anything upwards of 230bpm ish, would involve another technique which really involves the use of fingers. This is obviously the faster tempos which will take you up to ridiculous bop speeds!

So in answer to your question, for the sake of a few dollars, save yourself some time recording tracks and get yourself a metronone, no matter how basic. I have just done the same thing Juan and got myslef a Yamaha Clickstation. You can program, name and save all the tempos and it even has a vibrating pad so you can feel the tempo - nice!!

Have fun.

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thanks for the help drum bros...

thanks Dazzler for those additional infos... nice to read these interesting stuff!

ei matricks, what do you mean by whole notes at 20bpm? would it be better if I program quarter notes to 20bpm?

yeah, I'll try that.

sorry guys... I'm just a 70% self taught and 30% workshop/lessons of a drummer

originally posted by: matricks

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"If you don't buy one, then i will have to do some good will and buy you one for Christmas...and you think i am joking!"

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">well I really hope you're not joking he he he!!! I'll pray so hard you'll get the highest paying gig this Christmas and give to those needy drummers like me...

Tradfreak-

Hey, buddy, for what it's worth. Ya HAVE to get yourself a metronome. You're working too hard. Get a Seiko or a Quartz to start yourself off. Very cheap. Peace, brotha.

hello guys,

I don't have a digital metronome or a drum machine so I'm planning to program some clicks using my friend's cakewalk and burn them on a CD-R...

can u pls. give me some standard tempos (that you use) that could help me practice... cause I don't think it's logical to program all tempos like 80bpm, 85bpm, 90bpm, 95bpm etc...

or maybe anyone has a better idea, i'll buy a dig. metro. (when I have the budget) but right now I think I'll just improvise :-)

Try these for tempos...

60bpm

90bpm

120bpm

160bpm

200bpm

220bpm

That will give you some variety, most songs (pop) are at 90 or 120. Cheers!

tnx drumskull... but I think I'll save up and go for something that's not too expensive but where I can program oddtime clicks, diff tempos, tempos going up/going down or some drum loops etc.

something I can plug into ear monitors when playing live...

i was just checking the net for such a thing... maybe you recommend something that is portable, easy to carry arround but has the capacity to do the things i wrote above...

I read a while back that some of you guys prefer a drum machine rather than a digital metronome...

I use a drum machine...
What i meant about the 20bpm-whole notes is just for fun... basically it is a "time check" because you only get one click every 3 seconds... even better would be whole notes at 10 bpm! One click every 6 seconds. I just do that to see how well i can hold my tempo and my time when i have the click come in every whole note at 10bpm. It isn't a true practice tool as much as playing at 40bpm with quarters. What the "time check" stuff is for is to really show you how steady your time is when you have to keep it yourself and every so many measures the click pops back in to tell you where you are at and how much you may have "moved the time" from where it was.
P.S. Yeah, get a click or i will have to 'be yo daddy' and get you one!