70's, 80's, 90's...

I am watching an old vcd of the Police...

at the turn of the 70's, you had Billy, Tony, Narada, Bonzo, Moonie, Carl...too many great drummers to name.

at the turn of the 80's, it was Neil and Stew, for all intents and purposes.

at the 90's...Dave maybe Vinnie?

2000...

Who?

who was the exponent of pushing the originality of the drums ahead?

Who will have the balls to push the pro-tools garage/whiny lyricist ethos forward? Will all drummers be relegated to sunken chests and simple dumbass beats? I hope that we already haven't seen the ultimate expression of our instrument...

Yes, I have had a couple Rogue Dead Guy ales tonight...very good beer. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

With the changes in times the mode of expression changes, IMO.

I don't think there has been a dumbing down of drumming; yesterday's bonzo, peart, moon, rich, weckl, colaiuta, tony, etc. is today's carlock, hass, donati, moore, hoenig, ?uestlove, carey, etc.

There are still plenty of new guys pushing the boundaries of our instrument and fruthering our art. I don't think there is a "dumbass beat". I think that for musical purposes everything has an important role in making the statement of the art, and to dismiss something that seems simple would be dismissing great players like ?uestlove, heyward, freese, or even classics like ringo... all of whom may have played mainstream popular music, but artfully and masterfully.

Excuse my rambling, I have gotten little sleep.

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Originally posted by Cameron Mahoney:
I don't think there is a "dumbass beat".

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Right, just "dumb-ass" music. [img]graemlins/boy_hug.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rainbow.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/girl_hug.gif[/img]

As i said many time: no new kind of music so no new world to explore by young drummer [img]frown.gif[/img]

Even tho we've volleyed this many times b4 on this forum [& taking those brewski's ben mentioned into consideration ;-p], I'd have to say included in the 80s/90s would be Rockitts Ricketts, who helped more to promote [or is it poise-on with-] Aqua-net, "Spandex Ballet," pouty-smoochy-lips/ Revlon/ Maybelline than just about anybody...including the Go-Go's, Vixen, Bangles, Sheena Easton, Lita Ford, & Heart...

BTW...LMAO, DSOP!
ZING!
MOST excellent...
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<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 24, 2005 02:15 PM: Message edited by: got_a_match_grip? ]</font>

I have a pet peeve related to this thread. When I was a young drummer in the 80's (yes I'm that old), I was able to see many of my drumming heroes conducting clinics. I saw Weckl, Garibaldi, Chambers, Bissonette, Burns and many others. They all expressed how important it was to "give back" to the drumming community. It seems the only new cats conducting major clinics today are the "uber" drummers like Lang and Minnemann. Most of the guys I saw in the 80's are the same ones conducting the clinics today! The only time I see the "new breed" of drummers conducting anything like a clinic is at the MD Festivals. I wonder why this is?

I've transcribed and taught several Tool and Mars Volta tunes. I think these drummers have some cool ideas, yet I don't see Carey or Theodore conducting clinics.

I try not to sound like my parents did when it comes to new music, but the trend of recording bands to make them sound like a garage band is really old. I hate transcribing songs for my students when I can't hear through the fuzz.

OK, I'll get off my soapbox now.

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I try not to sound like my parents did when it comes to new music, but the trend of recording bands to make them sound like a garage band is really old

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I second THAT shizzle.

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So what's next? Pop-fusion or Fuso-pop?!!

[Maybe...or, maybe "Not..."]
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<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 24, 2005 02:23 PM: Message edited by: got_a_match_grip? ]</font>

Well since this decade is only half over we'll have to give it some time to determine who could be a defining figure head as far as the drumming community is concerned. Style opinions aside I'd say Virgil has probably turned the most heads in recent years; aren't too many drummers around that haven't at least heard of him.

No new music? I think this decade, with the explosion of the Internet, has produced and will continue to produce music with influences that range the globe. There has been no other time in history where finding different/new kinds of hybrid music has been so easy.

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No new music? I think this decade, with the explosion of the Internet, has produced and will continue to produce music with influences that range the globe. There has been no other time in history where finding different/new kinds of hybrid music has been so easy.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I didn't said no new music, there are Plemty of music, i said no new style of music, each new music style give drummers opportunity to explore new possibility of drum, experiment, explore and inovate, without new music style it's hard for drummers to create something Really new

Does Garibaldi can have created his style if Funk didn't appear ? Weckl if fusion din't came ?