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I think it's bull that we give free handouts to illegals over people who are american citizens that are academically qualified.
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Originally Posted by
Monkeyhead
I think it's bull that we give free handouts to illegals over people who are american citizens that are academically qualified.
This.
As liberal as I tend to be, and as much as I believe illegal immigrants should be given a chance in this country, to stand in the way of someone born/raised/legal in this country getting a higher education in favor of someone who has not taken the steps to become a legal US citizen, is ludicrous.
When the illegals are legal, then they can feel free to enroll in public universities. I'm sure the colleges will be glad to take their money for 4 years in exchange for a piece of paper just like they do anyone else. Until then, their first priority shouldn't be a college degree, but a green card. What would be so wrong w/an illegal applying for a student visa and taking classes? At least a student visa would show they're willing to stand up and be counted by our government so we know that they're here and what their intentions are.
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Yeah, R13, can't agree with you here. Legally and academically qualified residents are more of a priority than illegals. It only makes sense.
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Illegal is the key word...shouldn't even be in the country, much less taking away opportunities of college education from LEGAL citizens.
How on earth can you possibly think this is bull r13?
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Every state should do this honestly
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It's bull for several reasons....
1) The dumb remark of it being "a handout". We're talking about giving a kid an education, there's nothing fucking wasteful about that, to say that just because they're illegal is asinine. It never said they weren't paying, so how that could be a handout is beyond me, it even says they pay higher tuition.
2) They're paying out-of-state tuition, which is a lot more than in-state.
3) If they're getting accepted over legal ones, that most likely means they are testing better/have better grades. Maybe the legal ones should study a little harder and it wouldn't be a problem.
4) Undocumented doesn't mean they jumped a damn fence either, it specifically said that some have lost their citizenship or can't affirm it. So we just screw them over by instituting this... for what?
5) Who the hell do we think we are saying one kid takes priority over another kid based on a piece of paper? That's all it is too before any of you try to argue it, the legal ones haven't earned anything, they just happened to be born here - so it's tough luck for others who weren't fortunate enough to be born here and lets make it harder on them then before by screwing up their education.
6) I see the bitching and moaning about being them being such a drain on us, but when some try to get a good education in this country, we do shit like this...it's nothing new, we basically invite them here and treat them like scum, just more hypocrisy.
7) When we fix the system from the clusterfuck it is trying to get into this country, then we might have a leg to stand on with something like this.
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Yes lets make it easier to get citizenship. That will solve a whole lot of problems.....
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1inStripes
Yes lets make it easier to get citizenship. That will solve a whole lot of problems.....
How wouldn't it? It would be drastic, it takes years and thousands of dollars generally for people to come here legally, the system is screwed - that's a huge reason why illegals are here illegally, they can't get in legally.
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Citizenship and being here legally are two totally different things, and no, being here legally isn't requires nothing similar to earning your citizenship.