SJU has taken them to the shed so far, still 15 minutes left and Duke will have probably at least 2 more big runs in them and if SJU just weathers them, an embarrassing loss for the dookies.
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SJU has taken them to the shed so far, still 15 minutes left and Duke will have probably at least 2 more big runs in them and if SJU just weathers them, an embarrassing loss for the dookies.
And dook goes down again to a much lesser talented team and still have to play those guys in baby blue twice.
Even really good teams can get beat by not-so-good teams in CBB when they shoot less than 30% from the field in a half, and 7% from 3pt range. Duke upped both percentages in the 2nd half (to 52% and 30% respectively) and outscored SJU 53-47 in the 2nd half.
SJU played arguably their best game of the year at home, shooting 58% in the first half when they normally average around 45% per game. Honestly, Duke was struggling so hard to find buckets on the offensive end that it affected their defense--they didn't contest a lot of shots, especially in the lane, due to being so shook by their offensive woes.
One bad half of basketball beat Duke, not a "lesser talented team". Better to lose now and learn your lessons than in March/April.
I also find it hi-friggin-larious that you start more Duke threads than Duke fans do. Why not talk about your team? I didn't see you talking about UNC losing to a "lesser talented team" when they lost to Minnysoda earlier this year, or when they lost by 20 @Georgia Drek 2 weeks ago.
Agreed, hilarious...but exactly like every other thread he starts.Quote:
Originally Posted by CoeburnCane
Feb.9...Cameron Indoor....Coack K Floor....lets see how the Tarheels handle Duke and those 9000 screaming Cameron crazies.
And as I've said before, I don't have an equal time rule, if you want a thread calling unc when they lose...go for it or with any other topic instead of whining. Some of you can't grasp you can make threads too.
1) I'm not whining. I'm analyzing the game based on it's facts in the face of what is on your part, let's face it, pure hateration. If you want to put the hate aside and discuss the game itself, then by all means--let's do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by R13
2) I make it a habit to talk as little about UNC as I can, thank you very much. You getting on these threads and talking smack about Duke w/o analyzing the facts makes you as bad as Beck talking Democratic politics with a gross lack of facts.
LMFAO!!!Quote:
Some of you can't grasp you can make threads too.
I'm sorry, I'm a moderator. I'm pretty darn sure I've been around long enough to grasp the oh-so-intricate method of thread creation. You don't have the market cornered on the smarts it takes to make a thread. How condescending can you get?
Thread creation isn't the issue--the issue is that you want to bag on Duke and root against them so bad that you neglect to realize your boys are sucking it up at times this season too. I wouldn't say a word if you manned up on here and analyzed UNC's losses as they came (and they've come more often than Duke's this year, mind you), but you simply disappear like a fart in the wind when UNC loses, and then celebrate like Mardi Gras everytime Duke plays a tight game and/or loses.
Hateration, personified.
If you want to discuss the game on it's facts and from a pure basketball perspective using the stats, then by all means--I'm for it. I'll have a discussion with you on why Duke lost on those grounds, absolutely. However--when it's just you celebrating their 2nd loss of the season when your boys have 5 in the L column thus far...you don't have much room to flap your gums and beat your chest. Ignoring the facts and celebrating at someone else's expense = hateration, and hateration has no substance, meaning you and your "thread" can stick it...unless you want to actually discuss facts and analyze the game. Then we can talk.
Oh wow, you figured out I hate duke and posted this to hate on them? Can't get anything past you. I posted that they lost bad, I didn't post to delve into anything, I made the thread to just rub it in the dook fans face....post when unc loses instead of complaining when I do it.
Good for you, forgive me if I don't. And riiiight, I'm beck made over hating over my SPORTS teams rival. Nice one.
Obviously that went over your head, with the complaining its likd you don't know how when you say well why didn't you post this. Why didn't you? Expect me being a unc fan I'm going to make a post when they lose, give me a break, I obviously don't want to hear about it...like you don't want to now, that's the point.
There's no manning up, the only one that needs to man up is you guys, its not like I've denied this was a biased thread and I didn't post it because I don't hate them...so yeah you sure got me. Duke is returning a lot of players from a title team and losing, so don't expect it to not be chastised even more. Sorry you dook fans have soft feelings when they lose. You can talk about whatever you want, I didn't put a "CC reply", didn't direct it at any one person or even slapped a "discuss" up there so talk to yourself if you want about their poor performance and analyze that all on your own.
So, you're just hating to hate, without any thought given to why Duke would have lost a game from a basketball knowledge perspective. Hate, lack of knowledge...pretty sure that covers it.Quote:
Originally Posted by R13
As far as posting when UNC loses--I'm a lot better than that. I might get excited when they miss the NCAA tourney or lose out of it, but the rest doesn't matter to me really. March/April is when any of this really matters. What I can't figure out is you busting a nut everytime Duke struggles/loses, esp. in the regular season...it's 'tarded of you.
No, you're Beck b/c of your lack of facts and refusal to have a discussion based on them when they stare you right in the face. Denial and hateration take its place. Pot, meet kettle.Quote:
Good for you, forgive me if I don't. And riiiight, I'm beck made over hating over my SPORTS teams rival. Nice one.
See the above. I don't make it a habit to discuss UNC b/c I don't like them, and when you see the final scores when they lose, I don't have to say anything.Quote:
Obviously that went over your head, with the complaining its likd you don't know how when you say well why didn't you post this. Why didn't you?
Just because I don't want to hear it doesn't mean I can't discuss the facts of the game with an opposing fan. I'm a lot more rational than that. If my team loses, I don't just get ****ed off and feel like my life is over, I try to understand why through discussion about said game.Quote:
Expect me being a unc fan I'm going to make a post when they lose, give me a break, I obviously don't want to hear about it...like you don't want to now, that's the point.
You can say that again, and 2x on Sundays when it comes to you.Quote:
There's no manning up
Nah, I'm in good shape. I looked at the stats and gave a pretty cogent explanation as to the loss...it was a lot more substantive than your "Duke got beat by a lesser talented team...haha at them, they suck". I'm saying, if you're going to say "Duke sucks", look into the stats and tell us why instead of just flaming on them through baby-blue glasses.Quote:
the only one that needs to man up is you guys
Yeah, but you act like they suck and don't deserve a top 10 ranking when they lose a game. Just because they lose a game here and there doesn't mean they're still not a **** good team, and better than your baby-blue boys to boot at this point in the season.Quote:
its not like I've denied this was a biased thread and I didn't post it because I don't hate them...so yeah you sure got me. Duke is returning a lot of players from a title team and losing, so don't expect it to not be chastised even more.
I said it earlier--better for it to happen now than in March/April. No soft feelings here, I figured on quite a few losses in the regular season, especially when Irving went down to injury. My beef comes with you posting like you're beating off to the tape of games that Duke loses/plays close, without any thought to the actual basketball facts of it. Just blind hatred, which shows nothing but idiocy and lack of knowledge on your part.Quote:
Sorry you dook fans have soft feelings when they lose.
So you're incapable of a rational discussion when it comes to CBB and Duke, simply b/c you're a UNC "fan" with apparently very little bball knowledge and an agenda of blind hatred. Got it. This may not be the case--but I'm pointing out to you that this is how you're coming across.Quote:
You can talk about whatever you want, I didn't put a "CC reply", didn't direct it at any one person or even slapped a "discuss" up there so talk to yourself if you want about their poor performance and analyze that all on your own.
For someone who has professed to enjoy discussing facts about several other subjects, you've got quite a bit of brainlock and stubborness when it comes to talking about this particular subject.
A bandwagon fan's delight. Play nice boys, I bet it hurts when your favorite team wins 75% of its games for 30 years.
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Originally Posted by CoeburnCane
Uh it's not like they didn't have their main players, that those players didn't perform, Singler and Smith played good games. Nothing pops out looking at the box-score, there's no lopsided stat that won them the game. SJU shot a higher percentage, but the shots made weren't that far apart by any means whatsoever.
It's just hilarious, what have I posted that was flipping out over it? I pointed it out and rubbed it in, that's all, not my problem you can't handle it.
Lack of facts? What have I said was wrong about it in the whopping two sentences I posted? Again, not my job, why would I defend their loss?
Again okay? Then do that, I never attempted to delve into anything, never hinted at it. Just posted a half time score and and a line after it ended.
Feel free to post anything that I've said and not manned up to or anything, saying it doesn't mean it happens.
Yeah, great stats. But fail to mention real numbers and only percentages. SJU made 6 more shots from the field, Duke might have shot 20% from 3 land, but still made two more that SJU. Who said they suck? They don't, that's what makes this so funny, because they have that talent and blow games like this.
I would hope they are, you're comparing players from last years title team to a one with one senior who is playing his first at UNC and doesn't start. You'd better be happy they have a better record, well at least overall, than them.
Ha I'll call bull****. There's no way you or any Duke fan predicted "quite a few losses" when he went down, they're still way good without him, he definitely makes them better but no way in hell any Duke fan or anyone seen these losses coming...maybe when they were playing the better teams of the schedule, maybe one to UNC that they might still win both, but def. not these two. You just got your feelings hurt, I never attempted to address anything about the game in those two posts, it was clear it was just to rub it in. Though no stat in that box score, besides the poor play from their two stars, that says they should have got molested like they did the whole game.
You're taking a hate thread, one that was never hid and running with it that I know nothing about basketball? No, it was just a thread to bother your dook fans and it looks like it worked.
Again I've said from post one between the exhange what I posted it for, not because I didn't have some numbers to back it up, SJU backed it up. When UNC loses again, I'll go ahead and tell you that I've granted you the ability to post a thread about it since apparently you didn't have any before, so you're welcome.