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Nice weekend job for people who are skeptical about what cables can do.
Take an old interconnect,
Put off the shielding,
Connect them untwisted,
Listen careful to your system,
After that connect them a little tight twisted,
Listen again to your system,
If you can hear the difference between twisted and untwisted your ears are OK,
If you don't hear any difference at all, call a doctor!
Have a fine weekend!
DIFFERENCE OR IMPROVEMENT?
Yawn!
You are welcome to your views. That's All Folks. Happy, now?
Shielding can make a difference in the amount of induced noise, especially in high RF and EMI environments. No one will contest that.Quote:
Originally Posted by AltecLansingFan
Barring taking on coursework in physics, maths, DC and finally AC circuit analysis, have a look online at the following: resistance, inductive and capacitive reactance. Also consider RLC using your system components' input and output impedances within the eleven octave frequency range of human hearing.
You'll note that specialist `boutique' line-level and speaker cable geometry, material and construction have no absolutely no relevance at audio frequency. At megahertz and gigahertz certainly but at or below 20 khz, definitely not.
BobR
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Originally Posted by mah
DIFFERENCE OR IMPROVEMENT that is not the discussion.
The discussion is what cables, or different cable types, can do with the sound.
Some like twisted and some like untwisted more, some like silver, some like copper others like cryo treated copper or silver more, and if it is an improvement,
that's a matter of tast and how your system sounds at the moment.
If your system sounds a little to bright, you can twist the cables, if your system sounds a little dull, maybe a silver cable or an untwisted copper cable will help to open up the sound or it will bring some more detail, but if it is an improvement that's up to your own taste.
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Originally Posted by AltecLansingFan
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Originally Posted by mah
Het sop is de kool niet waard ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AltecLansingFan
My experience is that certain cable types can be better in particular systems. Is this because of something that is inherently peculiar with the system or is it because the cable is better? I think it is the first.
True and if some folks want to spend their literally priceless quality time (it can't be replaced) and/or disposable income to tweak interconnects and/or swap out different electrical properties wiring systems to fine tune a system, that's fine by us as repeated stated by others here and in myriad similar threads around the net for as long as I've been on-line; but it has also been presented by those others in a variety of ways that all this boils down to is how the wiring system's RLC electrical properties affects it, so the cheapest, easiest way for folks to fine tune a system is to use wire with vanishingly low RLC (which mostly boils down to a vanishingly low resistance for the wire run length to keep voltage drop at desired peak music power to a minimum) between the amp and speaker and between the XO and drivers, then add whatever inductor(s), capacitor(s), resistor(s) filters it takes to achieve the desired results.Quote:
Originally Posted by AltecLansingFan
This is what the pioneers of audio concluded, which at their core were some of the most brilliant electrical engineers on the planet at the time and since we're talking about an intrinsically analog reproduction system, then unless there's now sufficiently high resolution digital processing that's perceived by all humans as analog to render the subtle tonal differences of analog components moot there's nothing of note in this particular technical field that's changed in the ensuing decades AFAIK.
Indeed, I've seen ridiculously expensive boutique wiring systems that when stripped of its fancy sheath revealed inexpensive extension cord quality wiring with tiny analog RLC filters to get the desired electrical properties to create a sense of tube 'color'/euphonic distortion when attached to a typical SS amp, so apparently they agreed. Or was it just 'greed' and the gullibility of mankind in general that made them 'agree'? ;)
Regardless, 'color' me done on this 'dead horse' subject.
GM
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Originally Posted by westend9
= Apekool ;)