Altec 908-8A Drivers - How Much Improvement over 807?
Hi, just looking for some advice from more experienced users of Altec small format drivers. I currently have 807 drivers with aluminum aftermarket diaphragms. I have a chance to get some 908-8A drivers locally for around $125 for the pair. They have no diaphragms in them and no back covers either. But they are in good shape and have the tangerines, etc. One thing that I was wanting to know is how much of an improvement would the 908s be over what I already have? I'm looking for more hi frequency than the 806/807 is giving me. Also, I noticed the one of the tangerines is black and the other is orange in the 908s. Not that it makes any difference but I wondered why they were different? I'm guessing they were made in different years. Please tell me what the advantages and disadvantages are making this swap. I realize the 908s will probably need to be crossed-over higher and will not have as good midrange as the 806/807 that I have now. But I think the 908s will have better upper-end treble and crispiness. Another scenario is that I just buy Altec Pascalite diaphragms and put them in my 806/807 drivers that I'm using now. Which way do I go with it all? I love the midrange the 806/807 can push out but the high-end treble is lacking somewhat. I do have them on an electronic adjustable crossover with CD Horn button (engaged to get any decent treble but it's not enough on the upper end). Thanks in advance!
Brad
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Wow, nobody at all??? I thought this was THE place for Altec discussions, etc. I don't have much time to make up my mind on the 908s at that price...
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Get them, there's nothing to lose at the entry fee.
Frequency response will be shifted upward, better HF extension, and you'll gain a few db of sensitivity, but you won't want to cross them as low as you would go with an 807.
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Part of the problem is you have aftermarket frams that could be your issue. But Bowtie's info is acurate.
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I realize the aftermarket diaphragms ARE an issue. But I don't know if GPA ones are going to give me that much more HF extension. I like the midrange the 806/807 give and the treble is okay. But I need to crank the treble on my preamp all the way up and also have to keep the CD Horn button engaged. This is the only way I can get decent useable HF out of them. Without the CD Horn button engaged; forget it. I don't get enough treble at all. I also realize the 908s will need to be crossed over higher. They claim you can go down to 500hz but I wouldn't do it. I was thinking maybe 1000-1200 hz would be more like it. I like to get them LOUD sometimes. Anyways, thanks for the input. I may just go ahead and get the 908s. I was hoping that putting Pascalite diaphragms in my 806/807 drivers would be enough to boost the treble and extend it out more. I'm not sure it would though.
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If you get real frams you could try them in both bodies. the newer xover has HF EQ
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The magnetic charge in the 806/807 bodies could be questionable depending what kind of life they've seen. The 908 bodies will almost certainly retain their full charge. There could potentially be a significant difference between new phragms in the 908 bodies and what the OP is listening to now, just no way to really know for sure short of trying it.
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The charge on the 806/807 bodies seems to be strong as they are very efficient like they should be. But this wouldn't have anything to do with the lack of extended high frequencies. I just think it's the diaphragms more than anything. Maybe I'm just expecting more from them than they can do. I have a pair of 808a drivers with older (good) diaphragms in them and they have a lot better HF extension. I have tried my aftermarket diaphragms in the 808s and they sound fine. Plenty of top end. So I'm just thinking it is the 806/807 natural sound. Don't get me wrong, it's not unbearable and they sound okay but nothing to blow your mind. Now the 808s sound great; especially with diaphragms that were in them when I bought them. I'm going to try the 908s and get the Pascalites too. If all is good then, I will probably sell the 806/807 to pad my pockets again. Thanks for all the inputs guys, I really appreciate it. Just wanted a reality check more than anything. Make sure I wasn't going backwards with this change.
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And if EQ-ing the horns , new prams and drivers still won't do it for you....you can do like some here have done and add a tweeter by-passed in at 3k or higher. This tweeter OG mentioned a few weeks back is one I have used with 511/806 (home application).
Vifa BC25SC06-04 1" Textile Dome Tweeter 264-1028
(BTW-never felt a need to add tweeters to EQ'd 808 b's / 802 g's)