Re: Fair price for 515-8G ?
In the instance, I actually had these,
I would listen to them.
Even though I might use a pair of 4x8
Sheets of plywood,
Open baffle,
I'd be listening to them.
You see the way the price are headed.
I would Choose carefully.
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Re: Fair price for 515-8G ?
Be aware I tend to price low. I would be higher in pairs than for all 4. After all, you have to do two transactions to get your money.
Even at that, I would still be reluctant to break up the 4. There is a customer who wants all 4.
I would want $1600 for the 4. If you check what GPA would want, that's dirt cheap. And where but you or Great Plains are they going to find 4?
I might start out higher and offer to ship to Japan. Have them professionally foam in place packed and charge the customer, likely 50 bucks each.
Re: Fair price for 515-8G ?
Thanks to you both for the suggestions.
Yes, part of being on the fence is wanting to experiment with them further. OB or otherwise, I do have the front baffles from an 8256 that'd be an easy starting point. They'd probably make for a doable 300hz>3.xK OB, with some wings added. hrm.
Re: Fair price for 515-8G ?
Unless you want/need the $$$ for something else, to 'upgrade' SQ wise from this compression horn driver would put you in GOTO territory, which starts at 294000 yen/~ $2720 ea. and if matching published Gauss levels, 546000/~$5052 ea. and of course with GPA's new pricing, if you wanted them again........
GM
Re: Fair price for 515-8G ?
Thanks GM, good perspective.
I was thinking 'crossgrade' but based on WiniSD sims (if I am using it optimally) for the sealed 12cuft voice of the futons (used for >250hz at present) , I am barking up the wrong tree.
I might as well swap the 416's out and 515's in. The 515's start gaining on the 416's @ ~100hz, and are ~6db up by 200hz.
This could do well to fill in a perceived 150hz dip nicely, without sacrificing too much (- ~2b @ 30hz) down low.
Again, if I am simming correctly. The real physics will always win, so I will have to try it.
The 'crossgrade' haunting me is the AE TD18H w/apollo. It sims closely to the 416 in the same box (and pub'd t/s are seemingly similar to my eye).
Wondering what I would gain if anything from larger Xmax ability, and powerhandling.
The BL of the 4 ohm TD18H (pub'd 19.13) is slightly higher than the (winISD calc'd) 17.42 of the 8ohm GPA 416-8C.
With a 4ohm choice I could throw 300w/side at it (sticking to the non-fan 9442A), and still not get close to damaging the driver... and EQ it more brutally than I would attempt with the 416 or 515.
Re: Fair price for 515-8G ?
The 9442A is only 150 watts at 4 ohms. It does do 300 watts mono, but won't run 4 ohms.
Or am I missing something?
Re: Fair price for 515-8G ?
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Originally Posted by
Old Guy
The 9442A is only 150 watts at 4 ohms. It does do 300 watts mono, but won't run 4 ohms.
Or am I missing something?
Good catch. It is:
150w/ch @ 4ohm
300w bridged into 8
You are correct, by omission in the doc they don't want you to try 4ohm bridged.
Will have to look at the 8ohm version then. :-)
Re: Fair price for 515-8G ?
In mono, each channel sees half the impedance of the load. 4 Ohm mono is a 2 Ohm load on each channel.
Want a couple 9444B dirt cheap?
Re: Fair price for 515-8G ?
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Originally Posted by
Old Guy
In mono, each channel sees half the impedance of the load. 4 Ohm mono is a 2 Ohm load on each channel.
Want a couple 9444B dirt cheap?
Thanks! but I will pass for now. Course then I'll come up with some reason for them in a couple months time. :-)
I might take up Phil-G on his 9442a sometime soon though, I could use a candidate to practice recapping at some point.
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Originally Posted by
tomt
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Open baffle,
I'd be listening to them.
You see the way the price are headed.
I would Choose carefully.
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Dern it. And I thought I was done with lumber for a while.
At least I got the kitchen faucet fixed this weekend.
...so we've now got these ~7ft tall industrial-back-lot-minimalist OB's mocked up.
8 ohm 515's, series or parallel for them as midrange? (9442a's)
mmm. Will probably start parallel.