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Well, I'm pretty sure that I should have King do the install and tuning of my SC and cam gears. Here's the thing. They said the Jackson Racing Fuel Pressure Riser is not that good. They said that they will use their own fuel pressure regulator which will make more power.
How many of you think the JR FPR isn't that efficient? This is the first I've heard of people needing another component to do adequate tuning of the SC.
Let me know what you guys think. By the way, Scott says that with the SC, my current mods, and tuned cam gears, I should get 215hp easy.
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'95 Red Integra GSR
RSR header
Thermal Exhaust
Iceman Intake
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By the way, the King FPR costs $175.
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My JR FPR just did some wacky things. Check out the "Fuel Pressure Problem" thread.
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avanish: whaz UP!--hey bro...sounds like they sell'n ya some snake oil bullshitz??? since they don't make a supercharger...how da f--k they know whaz works with the JRSC as whole damn kit? plus i never heard any peeps have probs wid theirs on the 6psi shitz atleast...but, i know that King shitz is always hella expensive! have they got proof that they ran this on a JR and it was found ta be better?? or they jus talk'n outta they azz for mo' of yo $$$.
so what cam gears ya gonna run? and did ya dyno yo ride wid yo current setup yet? good luck on the 215HP mann!
peace.
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I talked to John at Modacar and he was surprised that King didn't think the JR FPR was any good. He thought that King may be trying to push their own FPR.
Another thing that bothers me is that King isn't giving me a definite price on the install. They said it depends on how long it takes them and they expect it to be around 10 hours worth of work. My question is, if they've done so many installs, shouldn't they have a set price on install?
Modacar, and many other shops have a set price and that's what I think I want to find. I also think that I'm just going to install the SC and I'll do the cam gears later this summer. It kind of bothers me that King charges so much and can't give me a guarantee that the price won't exceed a certain quantity.
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Hey,
The guys at Modacar did the install of the JRSC on my 'Teg. They are good people and I'd recommend getting the SC and installation from them. They were very good, quick and professional about it too. Even though I moved away from the Bay area I still order parts from Modacar.
Sean
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Blown '99 Milano Red GSR w/a filter on a stick. Vroom!
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The JR FPR is adequate until you move up to more boost. So far the initial reports on the Bell/Cartech FPR are very good for 8psi applications. I would not go with a shop that won't quote you an install price. Sure, if you have something bad (like a sensor, or a broken off bolt) I would expect them to make adjustments, but the install (with the JR Kit it is mostly labor) should be set and they should be the ones to eat any extra time, just as they gain by any time that is saved. If I was in Cali I would have had Jackson do the install.
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Thanks for your replies everyone. I think I decided against King. Even though they said they've done a bunch of installs, the fact they can't quote a definite price leads me to believe that they haven't since it doesn't sound like they know how long it takes.
Unfortunately I'm in Minnesota so making it out to Modacar or Jackson Racing is out of the question. So I just have to find a place around where I am or in the Midwest that can do the install. I don't think the SC install is as big a deal as the cam gear tuning though. Finding someone to tune gears is tough since it's really an art.
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4 hours? It took me 3 hours just to clean the intake gasket off. If you have the oil cooler, that adds a couple more hours to the job. Triming a cold air intake takes another couple hours. Are you going to solder connections? Are you going to mount the pressure switch on the vibrating manifold or plumb it to a mounting point on the firewall? Is the fuel filter getting replaced? Installing the high pressure pump? Do you have to have any wire harnesses unwrapped and rewrapped to make connections?
This is at least a 16 hour job, done by experienced installers. For the unexperienced like me, more than double that time.
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I agree that 4 hours is way too low an estimate. It took me 25 hours. I was anal about getting details right and had some "issues" with a flawed manifold, but I would think that even an experienced installer who didn't need the directions would have a tough time getting under 10 hours.
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Greg Holden
96 GSR, JSRC, Walbro regular pressure pump, AEM cai,
RSR headers, Greddy PE, Brembo Cross-Drill rotors,
DC Sports Rear Strut Tower Brace (junk!), Yoko AVSi
Greg Holden's JRSC Install Site
