Quick Question

when i say that i am atheist... i generally get
responses from people thinking that what i mean
is that i don't believe in god.

the real truth is...

i have no supporting evidence.

to others, this is significant because it shows
a deeper agnosticism.... (which usually leads
them to the intention of 'converting' me).

the problem is in the cliche question:

what is the meaning of life?

i despise this question... but see it as a clue
to a timeless paradox --

we have reservations about absolutes... but desire absolutes

even cliche descarte and his (properly philosophically
translated):

i doubt, therefore i am

we have contention to doubt naturally.... but the
real question isn't what makes you atheist....
but rather... what about believers made them
lose doubt?

it is our perceptual EYE that can project an
image of ourselves... seeing ourselves dead/lifeless...
while life continues... that scares us into trying
countless ways to give meaning to our meaningless lives.

but to stop my yammering on and on in a close-ended
spiral of personal rhetoric....

i stopped believing because i realized that
the god i was introduced to -- thought of me
no better than my own parents... and i hated
them... so why give reverence to a pompus,
self-centered delusion when i can't even do
so for the very beings i can see and touch?

screw him

[img]eek.gif[/img] ***Absorbing ****** [img]eek.gif[/img]

Give me a day to take all that in. K

The only way I can describe it is that I'm open-minded..

Like shatz said, so supporting evidence.. so yeshems..

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Originally posted by Cyalaytr:

The reason I ask is it is funny, when things really seem to be at their worst and life seems to be getting rougher then I can handle I always as a last straw say what the hell and say a quick prayer just INCASE and then go on with my life. Weather or not it improves after is irrelevant as it cant rain all the time and if it did would we know the difference?

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<font size="4" face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">I did the exact same thing about two weeks ago.. By accident more like it though. Lying there crying and just started talking to the someone who *might* be upstairs... *shrugs*

I think people no longer believe in god's existence, just like most adults don't believe in santa claus, or superman. For some, it's a statement of counter-culturalism. For others, like me, believing god exists (outside of being a figment of imagination) gradually goes away. I can't put a finger on any one thing.

I don't call myself an atheist, rather I believe I'm a thiest. Because I believe god is anything someone worships. Michael Jordan is a god. My girlfriend is a goddess (man do I worship her...). There's a few other semantical reason I can't say "I do'nt believe god exists". However, since I describe my position the same way atheists do, I like them more. So that is why I replied.

<font color="#ffffff" size="1">[ September 04, 2003 01:55 AM: Message edited by: Omar de Fati ]</font>

i think thats a common behavior.....

if we look at that aspect alone, you can clearly
see two dynamics (among others).

#1 -- you have no control/responsibility for what
is about to happen

#2 -- you have complete control/responsibility
for what is about to happen

now #2 doesn't mean that if a car is coming
toward you at 150 mph and you are going to collide...
that you can control your way out of it....
however, in whispering a small prayer... you
are projecting an image that your life is not
your own... meaning -- the reason you are about
to eat metal is NOT because you got yourself
in that situation... but because X led you there
to meet your fate.

i dispise this behavior.

Ok, well that's not my reasons behind saying my lil thingy-me-bob..

More for comfort levels.. Probably shit all to do with the real discussion of atheism/religion..

...
With that said, I was worried about *unkown topic* and was upset talking to *someone* (hehe), then the next day my worries were over..

Probably coincidence, but meh.. I'll bring it up to be confusing

*walks off confuzzled*

nah... its all good.

i was just saying that we all talk to 'someone'...
be it our inner selves or some god-entity

i was just posing possible reasons why [img]redface.gif[/img]

hehe gotcha..

Ok we all know that the majority of people I think that frequent either have their doubts or claim to be out right an atheists. But was it one single reason that made us come to that conclusion or 1 single lack of proof that brought us all here?

The reason I ask is I lay in bed at night and think some times. Why is it exactly why I dont beleive. Is it due to the lack of proof, the people that do beleive I don't want to be associated with as a whole, or is it that some where down the road I just decided like I do between Taco Bbell and McDonalds.... hmm what soots me today?

The reason I ask is it is funny, when things really seem to be at their worst and life seems to be getting rougher then I can handle I always as a last straw say what the hell and say a quick prayer just INCASE and then go on with my life. Weather or not it improves after is irrelevant as it cant rain all the time and if it did would we know the difference?

Once it is all said and done though I am back to mocking religion and those that defend it so strong as they are usually the ones with the most to hide or the easiest to shoot holes in their theories.

Anyone want to take a stab an enlighten me as to why this is the case? And also if anyone else is like this?? [img]confused.gif[/img]

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Originally posted by Omar de Fati:
...Because I believe god is anything someone worships. Michael Jordan is a god. My girlfriend is a goddess (man do I worship her...). There's a few other semantical reason I can't say "I do'nt believe god exists".
<font color="#ffffff"><font size="1">[ September 04, 2003 01:55 AM: Message edited by: Omar de Fati ]</font></font>

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<font size="4" face="Tempus Sans ITC, Tahoma">This is just a case of the over use of a word,as Im sure you understand,people dont actually believe Michael Jordan is a God.They just admire him and his fame.He's a human and people know this.

Some could say that pop culture is the new religion and our pop icons the new gods,thus our dissapointment when these gods fail,like they are bound to do because they are human.