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Well said, BR.
AFA "rim/sticks-clicking" every NAT, that doesn't bug me at all. Cob used to do it, Tony, Lenny, DC, & many others. Just shows that they were freekin "Going For It," man.
Now granted, Weck, Vin, & Virg don't do it but maybe ONCE in a GREAT while [if that [img]wink.gif[/img] ], but still, I've heard it fr a couple of those. No big deal in live, "GFI" playing. In the studio, thay can clean that stuff up anyway, if they want.
We also should consider the genre, style, type of band, & maybe somewhat, the time-period, AW.
I'm not the biggest Moon advocate, but I have to go w pretty much everything you just said. [not that that matters [img]wink.gif[/img] ] Can't comp him to VC, DW, DC, or VD anyway, i know...but besides, that's not the point anyaway, as we all know.
You've actually made me step back & take a better [& less-opinionated [img]wink.gif[/img] ] look at the guy. [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]
Barrie, OTOH, was always to my liking ;c)
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ April 17, 2004 01:59 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>
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Bill Bruford once said, 'Keith Moon, he doesn't play the drums, he just hits them'. I've always been a big 'Barlow' fan and not 'Moon', but i will try to learn more about what 'Keith Moon' is ALL about. He is unique and deserves the recognition but i personally find it hard to appreciate that type of drummer as much, i guess it comes down to 'to each his own taste'. With all respect. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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I had forgotten what a power house Keith was. He certainly was inventive and unpredictable. His playing fit this band perfectly. He is certainly one of the main reasons that The Who was so prominent and successful. Thanks for the tracks. PT. [img]graemlins/beer.gif[/img]
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I've watched his performances from back around 1974-75, and even on the Woodstock vid, and he was PHENOMENAL...very quick hands and he moved around the kit pretty good.
Plus, he had a style all his own. I don't think he knew what a hi-hat was.
He's like an extension of the Tony/Billy high energy playing but fit into a rock context. And the more I listen to townshend's songs, the more they hit me emotionally.
Yep, different time...I played a big chunk of Tommy in a band in college and he used some WACKED out chords. It was a lot of fun to play Keith Moon...Keef Moon. The "overture" groove is pretty slinky and funky in it's own way.
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Funny thing was in high school on band trips everyone would play the Who and I thought it sucked and wanted to listen to Sanborn records. Now, years later I finally can appreciate Keith's energy and drive and unabashed playing.
Like I said in an earlier post, I heard this rock drummer and I thought it was Jack Dejohnette sitting in. It wasn't so much his fills, as much as his phrasing during the solo sections. He really stretched the resolutions and was always unpredictable where he released the tension.
Found out it was Keith Moon. : )
I wished I would've written down the live cd's name. : (
I think Stewart Copeland did that quite a bit too.
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Sorry about the verbosity, but Moon's playing is a relevation...and I just finished a large Starbucks coffee.
These recordings capture performances from guys who actually played the toms, played the toms a LOT, on popular recordings. Amazing, I know. And they didn't hit each drum precisely in the center to get the optimum sounds...also, amazing, I know.
And they were bombastic...very bombastic and energetic. This would lead to stick clicks, audible stick clicks, and the sense that they were just winging it...but it would more often than not, lead to inspired, creative emotional drumming.
Keith Moon was this type of drummer, Barrie Barlow was a more "schooled" player, but just as bombastic and ballsy, and could really do some magical stuff behind the kit.
If you have Bursting Out or the remastered Who's Next or Quadrophenia, you don't need to d'l these files. And if you don't like Moon's playing, or have a closed mind to old music, sod off... [img]wink.gif[/img]
There's a fill at the beginning of this song that is so out from left field, but it fits and soudns really COOL.
Lullaby
These next mp3's are examples of Keith Moon at his pinnacle, before the drugs and high life ruined his body. Leslie West plays the lead on Baby Don't You Do It. That song rocks pretty hard.
BabyDontYouDoIt
This tune epitomizes Moon's driving style and following of the form of the tune while adding his own bits and pieces to completment it. I hear on this cut where Neil got some of his licks. Interesting arrangement by Townshend and good rock drumming by Moon.
IDontEvenKnowMyself
This is another propulsive piece from Moon, this song was on the radio a lot when I was growing up. Interesting interplay between Moon and the vocals. I really like the fills on this track. Who's Next is a GREAT album...
GoingMobile
This last one is 12MB. It's Doctor Jimmy from Quadrophenia. Jon T. asked about Moon's drumming and I think this track sorta sums up all the things that I like about his playing. Bombast, intensity, inventiveness, uniqueness, humor, feel and the effect his playing has on the meaning of a song.
I believe he added the second rack of toms on this album. There is a definite difference in timbre between the concerts and the double headed toms.
I'm listening to it right now and his fills add so much to the song, a straight rock performance would not have done it. His time is a little bit out of it on the driving rock beat parts, and it's not the cleanest drumming, but it is refreshing to hear it nonetheless. There's one bit at 6:00 where he just nails the snare once and it FITS with the lyric...it's hard to verbalize the effect it has but it works. He did that sort of thing ALL THE TIME...that kind of playing won't show up on the latest Nickelback record.
DoctorJimmy
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That's gotta be Live at Leeds.
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Hey Blake, I'll put some cuts up from LaL this wknd.
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I am listening to old Tull and I forgot how much fun it was when I was learning to play to play along to Clive Bunker's drumming.
He's got such an upbeat groove...and wierd fills reminiscent of Michael Giles, another of the Brits who had a bizarre style. Maybe the most bizarre. I heard some live KC from back then and he was even further out live, but much more powerful.
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Good post. Did you mean to add some Barriemore Barlow Mp3's? I'd be interested in them if you want to post any you think are particularly interesting.
Brad
