EXECUTION!!!!!!

I don't know about you all, but I have been waiting on So-[censored] Insane's execution since 1990!! I really believe this man is the Devil himself!! News wires are reporting that it is only hour away.

wish they would show it live on tv myself

I'm mixed on this.
He was a barbarian. Cruel. No ethics. Inhumane treatment of the Kurds. Murderer. Torturer. Essentially thought he was God.

Despite all this, I feel it's wrong to take "joy" out of his death. In general I oppose the death penalty. Two wrongs dont make a right.
But execution is the ruling - there was no stay; just get it over with and don't make it a celebration. I for one won't be dancing on any graves.

Strangly (sp) I agree with you, Im more for the death penatly in almost all circumstances, Im just afraid we may pour gasoline on a fire. What he allowed to happen against the kurds is beyond belief, but still, what will happen after he is gone?

I'm not taking enjoyment but.........the [censored] is being served justice. Excuse the language.

Right - It's not going to help our guys that are over there for his (many) supporters to see Americans throwing parties and celebrations and whooping it up when Saddam is executed.

He deserved to die.

As I said, he was a despicable person - no doubt.
I oppose the death penalty, but that part is only my opinion.

The issue I'm taking is with the grand celebration over the death of a human by the Americans.
And as my previous post said - it's sure not going to help the troops that are already there. I just wonder how many more are going to die because his supporters are further enraged by the celebration.

This should not be a debate for----or against capital punishment. This is the Law for the Iraqi people and as such, we should honor their Laws over there. What if the tables were turned and it was our country who was being ruled by a mindless tyrant? Remember also, had Hitler lived, he more than likely would have been executed as well, by us the (allied) forces. After all, we did execute many during the War Crimes Tribunal after WWII. If you weren't there in Desert Storm, you really don't know how those people lived: in constant fear of retaliation from their own government. What the soldier sees now is the aftermath of war. Just read the history books on the civil war in our own country.

CNN is reporting that he has just been executed.

Speaking the truth, listen to this man.

Their Laws do not call for the celebration of execution.
That part is going to get the Americans in more trouble there. Let's watch the casualty count rise now.

Across the US families will be notified of the deaths of loved ones, picked off by enraged Iraqis.
Saddam didn't have respect for human life. We as Americans should show that respect for human life is possible. We can't be hypocrites.

I guarantee you that the Iraqi people wouldn't have sentenced Saddam to death prior to the invasion and overthrow. Let's not kid ourselves. This occupation is the Americanization of Iraq.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16389128/

Also - I agree with 82abn.

you were not there in Nazi Germany either, I understand you served or know people who have served ut its unfair to say "unless you were there" I have a very good friends who was there, matter of fact he was the first into Afghanistan and Iraq. His first hand account made me understand the life that people had to lead there, or the lack there of. I am a major supporter of the death penalty, thas why I was sayin to elpn, we disagree on that maybe, but the fact remains, people are loyal to something there, be it Saddam or the fear of him, maybe knowing he is dead, will relinquish (sp) some of that ferver, maybe it will just make things worse, I do not know. I dont think the debate over if Saddam was good or bad, the conditions he made the people survive in (that was no way of life, mere survival) The question is, will it ignite more violence or maybe begin to slow it down.

An example of their odd loyalty:
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In an exclusive interview with CNN correspondent Jane Arraf on August 1, Rana Hussein, 33, said her father was very tender with the family. Neither of the daughters would discuss Saddam's role in the death of their husbands in 1996.

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Daddy killed their hubands, yet they speak fondly of him.
How many more have this same loyalty? Will these loyalists fire back with executions of their own?

The doggie that caught him should have popped him in his hole. It might have made things more simple. Saddam killed many, but if he would have been put to death would have been entirely up to the jury selection . The guys (our guys) caught in the civil war won't be helped by this .

I often wonder why that did not happen, a single shot from a soldier inside that hole. But who knows.

Dear Born, Michigan?
Looks like many Iraqi-Americans live there.

Iraq is out of hand big time. All this will do is help fuel more anit-American crap.
I agree he needed to be gone. But at this juncture. This will just create more tension.
In a country that is in the midst of Civil War. And has some looking for anything to call the rest of their bunch to arms.
A life time spent in prison wasting away would of been better. And probably caused less repercussions for US troops.
You can bet it is already being built up as a court judgement ruled by US opinions. So in the end we make Saddam what he wanted a martyer. Sp.

[img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]Yup . I wouldn't trade every Iraqi for one more flag draped coffin.

Stalin? Hitler? Pol Pot?

Is Saddam in that category? Thats large company to be placed in?

Do the research. We set him to fight Iran (that was how the he got some of the arms) and Kuwait didn't exactly keep ALL their promises. Then there was the Kurds.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I don't think that there would have been any good conclusion to this matter. If Saddam had been dealt with (with a couple of bullets) initially, the world would have cried out at the fact that Americans didn't give him his day in court. What happened by keeping him alive and trying him is that the entire world has had time to form an opinion on what should be done. For extremists, this is planning time. No good will come of this. We have tried to plug the hole in the dam with a finger.

Hitler and Saddam seem to have some things in common. Esp. in the later part of Hitler's life. When the paranoia of losing his empire set in. The same with Saddam.
The only thing different was a World War vs. Hitler, we got just the US vs the radicals of Iraq, who are in their own Civil War.
In the end. Our troops are caught in the middle once again. Only thing. We don't have the go ahead to win at all cost. Different times.

Look, I know the research, Im asking opinions. That is all I know the History of all previously mentioned. Just wondering if people would put him in the same roll as Hitler/Stalin and to a degree of Pol Pot.

let's at least be respectful...dude was a terrible guy and did unspeakable things...but for those who are Christians, the Bible does not say "love thy enemy (except for Saddam...yeah, hate him)"

Only hate i have is, what this will bring, to the US troops in a land where they are born and bred to hate, the US and anyone who disagrees with them.
Saddam was a man who started out good and turned evil over his own greed. We the US help make him. And then we had to destroy him.
However, in making him, we help to make those who were loyal to him and to his cause later on.
Sometimes we are are our own worse enemy.
But this will cause high tensions in a country on the brink of all out Civil War.
And we have many troops caught in the middle of that Civil War that will feel the backlash.

[img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]When I start something I don't have trouble finishing it. Saddam would have been buried on the spot and the country cleaned out shortly, if I was calling the shots. Might have gotten to a little overkill . [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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the Bible does not say "love thy enemy (except for Saddam...yeah, hate him)"


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yet another very good point.

Gotta agree with elp6n- this could cause problems for Americans in Iraq.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...ath/index.html

The above article basically says that the Baath party are "determined to retaliate in all ways and places that hurt America and its interests if" Saddam is hanged. And as we know he was.

Christians shouldn't make war.

But there are many many "Christians" celebrating an execution.

And there lies the problem. Sorta like the "Cast the first stone" thing. I get way outta line myself. So, I try to keep from saying too much anymore.

i'm in no way saying Christians (or anyone) should start any wars

Didn't take it that way, just commenting on myself.

I just do not understand the outcry for around 3000 dead. Hell, look at the toll that WW2 took. 300 000 dead. Korea, 35 000. Vietnam 50 000.

3000 is but a drop in the bucket. The battle must be won and lives will be lost. But those who must cry 'war monger' after every death do the war effort a great disservice.

War is hell. Soldiers die. But the war must be won no matter the cost.

Vietnam was 'lost' because of the high-touted 'public opinion'. If you're going in, then go in, kick [censored], take names, don't take [censored] from anyone.

Now there's one less [censored] in the world.

And there in lies the problem.
Our troops can't do that. In Iraq as in Vietnam.
How do you fight a war you are limited in how you can attack and you can't whip [censored] and take names.
And a Civil War among the people as in Vietnam and now in Iraq
Esp. when your the outsiders.
I guess it's changing hearts and minds. [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

Oh and we were only to be in Vietnam for two or three years at the start.
One was to whip a third world army, with an army we established in the South, and the other was to put our own officials into office, in a country we would help control.

As far as christians celebrating the death of Sadaam, why do you pity Sadaam? I would say that for many years christians are one of the few who have probably prayed for Sadaam. The American Govt. did NOT hand down execution on Sadaam, his own Govt. did that. Also all of you who have pity on anyone celebrating Sadaam's death, would you feel this way if it were your family he tortured, had raped, beat and in most horrible way killed right in front of your eyes? He had young girls as young as 12 raped by many men and made the family watch. I think many murders who have not done as much as Sadaam deserved death of any kind. Sadaam, no I don't feel sorry for him at all, cause on earth he had plenty of nights to repent in and change, while his victims died more horrible than he did. Can you imagine all the nights the families of these victims sat up crying and grieving over their loved ones?
To the comment two wrongs don't make a right, that is true. But also, the law of the land permits this execution. What Sadaam did was not governed by the law, but by his own satisfaction. A cruel man died today.

I will not shed one tear over his death. How can any american feel pity for Sadaam after listening to him for so many months call our soldiers infadels and call death upon each one of them, that his GOD wanted all AMERICANS dead. You are an american, how did you feel when Sadaam and the Iraq's celebrated when some of our soldiers heads hung on a pole in their own streets in the early days of the war.

Im not picking at you, but you have argued that saying foul language is not christ like, then you say that you cannot forgive him for what he has said about Americans.

Anyone wanna take bets on which news channel shows Saddams execution? I think its gonna be on a 24 loop on FOX News

No I did not say I don't forgive him. I am not a family member of one he killed. Had he done that, and he asked for my forgiveness then yes by the law of Christ I have to forgive to be forgiven. But I have done no wrong by saying that according to Sadaams own Govt.s law he was to be put to death for his crimes. What point are you trying to make? Forgive Sadaam, what have I to forgive him for?