I dont care...

How long you have known someone here...I dont care how well you claim to know a person..I dont care if you talked to him/her on the phone every single day for a year..I dont care if you think what you have is "different"
Fact is...you dont know here...You dont know because you are not there real time....You dont know for sure if they are lying or not...You dont know what the living situation is like..because you are not there...You cant be sure of anything...
and for the love of fuck..Spare me the "it happens in real life too" bullshit..

because thats what it is..bullshit..when you date in real life you have a good idea what the person is about....where they live..if there is a wife/husband....You have eye contact and facial expressions...you have hand gestures and body movements...You can tell when someone is lying...but not here...You can be the best at what you do...You could spin the biggest web...On the web......and get away with it..because nobody really knows anything about you..Only what you tell them and what they choose to believe..

Im sick and tired of friends getting hurt here because they believe otherwise...Smarten up ladies.....Stop thinking with your heart and start using your head...If it seems to good to be true...It is too good to be true!

*deep fuckin sigh... [img]confused.gif[/img]

[img]eek.gif[/img]

*looks around for you*

*stands tall(haha), points to the sky and yells AMEN SISTER!!!!!!!!!

Now tell us how you REALLY feel.... [img]wink.gif[/img]

For my thoughts on what Heidi said, click HERE.

You know Gary I dont know if you ever been told..but you have way too much time on your hands....You need a job..maybe a life or something..

And its different..Because if you meet a a guy dressed as a girl in real time and cant tell the difference you need your eyes examined...and we're not talkin about extreme circumstances here...we are talkin about chance meetin of people dating..on a "normal" level...Not everyone meets crossdressers every day and proceeds to date them for a period of time or get to know them over months with out knowing their gender..

your thing is you like the sound of your own voice..if you dont have anything intelligent to say on my threads..stay the fuck off them...thanks..

Something intelligent to say, HERE.

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Im not goin to bother to click that...Nothing you had to say since you showed up here interested me...I have shown you the courtesy of staying away from your threads...and there are many cause of all that time you have to spare..

You dont know me..I dont want to get to know you..Nothing you have to say means anything to me...dont make this about a challenge...You'll be making a mistake.....
and btw....You must think your voice is so pretty wanting people to download a file just to hear what you have to say....I heard you sing...You might want to find a day job..

anyway back to the topic at hand... [img]mad.gif[/img]

.....and they wonder why I love you so *G*

See, there's no winning with you, I have something intelligent to say, and you still don't want to hear it.......

They wonder why You love me?..*L*

Heidi..i hear you loud and clear.. [img]frown.gif[/img]

Gary..i dont think heidi is interested..*L..might as well call it quits..*G

yo heidi ... wanna go on a date ?

*L* yeah why I love you [img]graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I know, not a soul who just so very plainly states their purpose and whats on their mind like you do *G*

Blazey, I know you haven't known me very long, but still, do you believe I'm the kinda guy who quits? Ever? Even when I've clearly lost?

i am not gonna say it...
i am not gonna say it...
i am not gonna say it...whew i feel better and
Heidi- you told it like is is; was; and always will be.

A keyboard is an easy lying device but it has to have a liar at the control to work properly...

and that's all i gotsta say 'bout it...(and for the record i am 5'1"-489 lbs-bald as a cueball-warts on every patch of skin that ain't broke out in acne and have a body odor that would make a moose pass out....true,true- just ask Mz B.)

to top it off your a leafs fan [img]wink.gif[/img]

Gary dont want to give up on a girl who clearly doesnt like him.....finds him annoying as hell....im thinkin thats his "real life" right here on the internet..

and Redhead why would anyone question why you love me..*G*

I stand by what i said.....too many lies ...its too easy...start taking everything you are told here with a grain of salt....and start protecting yourself..

Pns......Anytime..
[img]wink.gif[/img]

Oh....and ....God..In case I havent told YOU lately.......bite me...*L*

Imagine that, the real me shining though a meaningless message board full of lies. That's just crazy...... [img]cool.gif[/img]

So this is the "real You?..*shudders...

nobody said the message board was full of lies..however Im sure it has its fair share....Now gary do we have to type slower for you to understand the meaning of the threads...or are you going to need a translator?

ya know i really dunno what to say here but i like the sound of my own voice too...well that and heidi always stalks me so i thought it was my turn to stalk her..the net aint safe...it is different...thats why its made for adults and not kiddies...the real world does suck too but lets face it...more can happen online, and more does happen online...some men get suckered into things too but it is mostly women...real world, online world, or your own fucking dilusional fantasy land ya gotta play it safe....

<font color="#A600A6" size="1">[ December 12, 2002 01:25 AM: Message edited by: Friend of the Empire ]</font>

Heidi, el m?s usted es malo a m?, el m?s yo lo quiero. [img]graemlins/kiss.gif[/img]

*G*

i was someones idea of "reality"...until...real life got to troubling... and instead of dumping me.... the right way.... ripped my freaking heart into a zillion pieces.....

i only have about a bajillion of those pieces left...

and they are much stronger and wiser.... so in a way...... that "i told you so...".... worked for me.....

but took me a year to get to the point of saying this stuff with out...that knife twisting....


anyhooooooooooooooooooo......


stomps his toes..for good measure....

*kicks him in the nuts for ya*

Hmmmm, just my $.02 heidi, but everything you said, everyone already knows....The only people who look for dates online hang out in AOL chat rooms, not on message boards...Also, if 2 people on a message board thread seem to be acting like dates, then they are probably just playfully flirting with no intention of going any further then that....
Message boards are nothing but a place for people to come and read topics that interest them, or they can come in here to "Absolutly Wrong" and look for a good laugh or 2 while they have their morning coffee before work, or at night before they go to sleep or get bored for some reason...
Try not to take what Gary is doing here in this thread so seriously and/or personal,he's just playin around for laughs, probably hoping you would do the same.
These boards are all about fun and/or interest, just relax, crack a few jokes, and try to have some fun with the rest of us here at "Absolutly Wrong".
If all of us here wanted to make and/or visit message boards of a serious nature in topic, none of us would be here in "Absolutly Wrong", we all would've made our boards in one of the other sections.....

Like i said, just my $.02...
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No offense to you JC at all......but I never meant the message boards....I know what the message boards are about..
What you and Gary dont seem to understand is the people on this board...Some of them..I have known for years....what they have been through.....Some of them Im very close to..this thread wasnt a geneal complaint....but very direct advice to some of those "close" friends..

I'm not a serious person..I'm the one thats always jokin around.....At the expense of most of my close friends actually..*G*

So its not about the boards...its not because I take things seriously....I think you might of gotten that all wrong...
btw.....I dont like Gary.....he annoys me..I dont pretend to like someone I dont.....My friends here expect that from me too...

*goes back to stalking Spirit*

<font color="#A600A6" size="1">[ December 12, 2002 11:06 AM: Message edited by: heidi! ]</font>

Btw...You said I was stating the obvious..You said everyone already knows that..Again...I agree with you.....They do know it in their heads..but they think with their hearts..and thats where the trouble comes in......
You would really have to know us all better to know why Im so pissed about this subject...

Im really not trying to point out anyones failure here...I tend to see matters of the heart as not failures but lessons...and first of all ..I have to say...I have learned a few myself..when it comes to the internet....and Im certainly not against meeting and fallin in love here...IF..you have your eyes wide open ....and live in a reality based world....Not expecting what you cant have and accepting what is being offered.....When you dream about things that arent possible..thats what the extreme pain comes into this...
But....people outright lie their asses off too..and I have seen that also...say all the right things...Exactly what the other person needs to hear...and never taking responibility of the peices they leave behind when they run out of all the right things to say..

I like to think Im there for my friends...They know none of this was a personal slam against them..and each of them know im always around if they wanna talk to me......

Thing is with me...There are soem I wouldnt give the time of day too...but there's a lot more that can have every minute of my day if they need it...

and your right..we are all different....which makes this so much fun..*G

You totally proved my point...I kinda figured you really felt that way...just knew some of the others chosen to challenge or argue were missing the mark of where you were REALLY coming from...

Indeed I AGREE, the internet is a suberb place to lie and take advantage of people...but for one reason or another not everyone can see thru the smoke..Ya know what I mean??? To a degree it will never change either...I think to some its the fantasy that draws them, knowing you can lie and make believe and never know the person other then a handle or screen name on the other side..unfortunately there is a real person on the otherside that can be believing everything being said....all I was saying was, it can even happen to people we love and know well...sure its easy to really hurt the vulnerable here...all you do is click the X and they are gone...its shitty and cowardly, but its never gonna change...One of my famous sayings to others is "It sure is easy to be brave behind a keyboard huh??" LOL....

Oh well..Heidi your good people and I think probably often misunderstood...I know cause you sound a lot like me...your friends are lucky to have you in thier lives....Have a good day hun... [img]graemlins/rose.gif[/img]

Wiqued..your right Heidi is good ppl..i am forever glad i got to know her..you can count on her to kick your ass when you need it..or just sympathize when your heart is broken..but most of..you can count on her honest opinion..even if it hurts...she dont hold nothing back..that is why i love her so...you always know where you stand with her.. [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]


my comments on the internet are varied just now..and i kinda wanna keep em to myself..i need to work thru alot of my feelings..i wasnt ignoring anything that was said here tho...my heart and head heard every single nuance of every single word.. [img]graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Here is another one of my famous sayings to people that are just getting to know me and it will apply to Heidi too....and probably many about these boards....

"You'll never have to guess where I'm coming from, because I'm gonna tell you"

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Hmmmmmmm [img]biggrin.gif[/img]

THX JC!!

yeap..


i soo hear ya heidi

what the brain knows.....doesnt mean the heart follows right behind...


HEIdi???? Have I told ya how much you mean? and HOw glad I am that weve become friends...and wanna cyber?


*sniff

awwwww...I luv You guys too... [img]graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

When I made this thread I had just recently heard of another friend here...getting hurt...Angers me to see that here....but I knew the ones that know me well...Would understand what I meant and where i was comin from....

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This made me sad, cuz I've been there...and it's so true...
I dont care if you talked to him/her on the phone every single day for a year..I dont care if you think what you have is "different"

but not here...You can be the best at what you do...You could spin the biggest web...On the web......and get away with it..because nobody really knows anything about you..Only what you tell them and what they choose to believe..


Right after that, your posts made me laugh so hard I had tears in my eyes...and Cody was staring at me funny as I tried to explain...he just doesn't "get" my poolie friends bonds *shrugs*

I haven't been away from the net...I've been staying away from the pool and the boards. Alot of you already know...but for those of you who don't, I'm dating a FTM, and I had alot of "stuff" to figure out with me/him.

Heidi, as always, you're too honest, but exactly right...blah!!! I had admitting that *G*

If I may intrude and throw my cards on the table...Heidi I think you hit the nail on the head...we all do know the risks at hand...and I see you pissed cause you watch your friends get hurt over something that seemed so obvious to you what they could have avoided it and avoided the pain as well...unfortunately thats just it...we all have different natures about us and do things different, you seem tremendously strong and live with conviction..and perhaps some of your friends aren't and don't...that may never change and walking into a situation with blindfolds on may not stop either....the difference is your pissed cause you care and that should be said...remember to catch your friends when they fall and be there to comfort them, just not always point out when they have failed or do wrong...use your strength to your advantage and remember(I know you know this too just have to say it) not everyone else is as strong as you..but always love your friends for the strengths they do have...we all have them just not always in the same areas...thats what makes everyone special and unique

For those that fall for a person over the internet, just becareful... perception on the internet is all smoke and mirrors, until you know someone in real time..

I had the chance to fall in love completely and totally via the net, then we moved it r/t. Those of you that have been around a while can remember that time. It was a wonderful time for me...but as with all in life, some wonderful things do end. Alot of the problems we had at the end of our relationship was caused by people on the net, who had their own agendas, lie and manipulate to have him believe stuff that wasn't true.
I'm upfront to a fault. I am who i am. He forgot that, i didn't.
I have since met some wonderful people, and some who chose to create an illusion. Take the good with the bad i suppose. But i have become more cautious and more skeptical as a result of it. Anonymity on the net is used both as an excuse and as a weapon.
I'm happy for those that find that special person via the internet, I for one, just can't do it anymore. I don't have the trust factor that i once did.
Cheers to those who can do it.

*checks out Heidi's monster*

wendee... [img]graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ..we should talk sometime!..i missed ya..

Lily..i remember..what a waste i thought then...but i dont see it as such now..its better you learned it now..than later..god knows..trust is the foundation of every relationship.. [img]smile.gif[/img]

*happy sigh*..i love all you girls..i am glad to have found each of you.. [img]smile.gif[/img]

dave..your not a gal..but i love ya too..*L

okey...2Cute is dating...*crosses off list*...


damn.... [img]redface.gif[/img]