How come so many people try to deny the Reliability of the Bible?
The most shocking part is some of them are Christians who do this... anyone got any answers? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/whistle.gif[/img]
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How come so many people try to deny the Reliability of the Bible?
The most shocking part is some of them are Christians who do this... anyone got any answers? [img]/LDPforum/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/whistle.gif[/img]
Not speaking for anyone in particular, but I have heard folks in the past speak about this, to a small degree. The translation from the original word into various languages then into to english over thousands of years, and the many many variations of the Bible that have come about since it was written in English have many skeptical that what they're reading was the original intent.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elp6n</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not speaking for anyone in particular, but I have heard folks in the past speak about this, to a small degree. The translation from the original word into various languages then into to english over thousands of years, and the many many variations of the Bible that have come about since it was written in English have many skeptical that what they're reading was the original intent.
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Yes I recall al those posts. But that is not a legitamate excuse because we have access to the original text of the Bible... The Hebrew and the Greek... do you think these have been changed also? I do not thnk they have. In Gods word it is said that "his" Word is infalliable and inspired by him.. do we believe that?
If you had proof of everything, faith would not be required (without faith it is impossible to please Him" Hebrews 11:6). Believing the Bible requires FAITH, and its mysteries can never be understood by a non-believer. True, its mysteries are hard enough for the believer who dedicates themselves to study.
"Faith is not believing God can, it is believing God will."
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes I recall al those posts.</div></div>
I never posted on those - just throwing in my 2 cents worth now.
We dont know if the original language texts have been changed or not, unless we have the one true original, and we don't.
I dont know many folks that go back and read the Bible through Hebrew and Greek texts either - they have no choice but to rely on the translated then translated and translated again versions.
I also understand that some books were orginally written in Aramaic - the language Jesus spoke.
We also know that some books were destroyed, some added, to the taste of whatever religious leader or ruler had the final word.
It has been altered to a great degree.
I'm not arguing the fact Faith is necessary.
He asked a specific question, and I gave one reason, that I have heard, why folks have trouble with taking the Bible literally. Something that has been altered over thousands of years cannot be taken literally in my opinion. It's open to interpretation and many folks have issues with that (taking faith in something that they think may or may not actually be the word of God).
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ut1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you had proof of everything, faith would not be required (without faith it is impossible to please Him" Hebrews 11:6). Believing the Bible requires FAITH, and its mysteries can never be understood by a non-believer. True, its mysteries are hard enough for the believer who dedicates themselves to study.
"Faith is not believing God can, it is believing God will." </div></div>
I think you may have misunderstood what i was trying to say. What I was trying to ask is do we believe that Gods Word is inpired by him, and is it infalliable? I understand we must have faith and all things cannot be proved.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: elp6n</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes I recall al those posts.</div></div>
I never posted on those - just throwing in my 2 cents worth now.
We dont know if the original language texts have been changed or not, unless we have the one true original, and we don't.
I dont know many folks that go back and read the Bible through Hebrew and Greek texts either - they have no choice but to rely on the translated then translated and translated again versions.
I also understand that some books were orginally written in Aramaic - the language Jesus spoke.
We also know that some books were destroyed, some added, to the taste of whatever religious leader or ruler had the final word.
It has been altered to a great degree.
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The question was is the Word of God infalliable and inspired by him?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What I was trying to ask is do we believe that Gods Word is inpired by him, and is it infalliable?</div></div>
I think His word is infallable, but my point is some folks wonder what His word really is. Is what they're reading His word? Or was it the word of some ruler who ordered changes to the Bible maybe 1500 years ago...
Since we have the original texts...maybe someone will eventually translate them into contemporary language straight from the Hebrew and Greek texts sometime soon...the difference in my opinion would be quite signifigant.