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Well, it was October 14, 1989 that Vinnie Colaiuta, Steve Gadd, and Dave Weckl unleashed the most important video footage of our generation to the masses. I just wanted to see what you all feel has evolved in each of these three's playing since that event. I think we can all agree that the most obvious progression since then has been with Weckl. In my opinion, he has become much more musical, and probably realized that since he wasn't the fastest/most technically proficient guy, he'd better focus more on accents and where to hit the right notes. I think he's done well with that, and really enjoy listening to him just play songs.....solo or not. With Vinnie, I'm not sure it's as much a huge progression with his style as it is just seeing him in so many different types of situations since then, and the fact that that in and of itself has made him an overall even better player. Steve Gadd is still Steve Gadd....nothing new there, but still as important as ever. Anyway, fire away if ya want!
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I saw Weckl Friday and though I catch him a couple times a year, I was a bit surprised at how awesome he really is. I've been underwhelmed by him at points live but I was so impressed with him Friday I was embarrased I ever felt any other way.
late 80's-early 90's Vinnie is my favorite period personally. (I live in the past, shoot me :-) He seems far less comfortable on the instrument now than then and his execution was a lot cleaner then too. But.. the most important thing, his ideas. Still amazing as ever.
Gadd is the same. [img]cool.gif[/img]
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Although there are alot of 70's and 80's recordings that are killing, Gadd had a slow period in the 90's.
He's tuning his drums much more open and is using double pedals now. I really think he's improved in the last couple of years. At least more growth in the last few than in that 10 year period. I've seen Gadd in small clubs in New York and he is a total master of time and dynamics and isn't just playing that rlft lick all the time any more. I thought that was the end of Gadd but he's shedding and I can definately hear improvement at least in adding new drumming ideas. I don't think he has ever lost his feel. His feel is the deepest I've ever heard.
If anyone hasn't heard the Chuck Mangione record Tarantella, Gadd plays a solo on the 11th Commandment that changed my life. I don't know if you can get it on cd.
I saw Weckl play with Simon and Garfunkle and at Tower records with Chick when the first electric band record came out. He's just a really important drummer that continues to improve. I would just like to hear him in different settings more. He is carrying the torch that Buddy Rich and Art Blakey had. That takes serious ambition and energy. Gives me goose bumps!
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<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 20, 2003 04:49 PM: Message edited by: blake1 ]</font>
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still looking for someone who will trade it for my stuff... [img]frown.gif[/img]
the buddy rich memrl scho concert tape2 for 2 of my stuff...plssssss.... [img]graemlins/cry_smile.gif[/img]
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u can get the that tape from Interstate Music, it's about $30 or something. [img]wink.gif[/img]
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I am inclined to agree with Derek on the point of how awesome Weckl is. I just watched the solo that he pulls off on the Drummers Collective Video. It is so clean and brilliant. He also seems so much more relaxed now than when he played the Buddy Rich memorial. He seemed sort of anal there, especially at the end of the second tune where he seemed to be dissapointed with his performance.
On the other hand, I am not sure what Derek meant by his Vinnie comment. I am not sure that I agree. But I will wait for Derek to reply. before I comment.
I agree with the assessment about Gadd. He seems to have found his niche and has flourished well in that royalty. He makes everything feel really good.
Take Care All. F.S.
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All I mean is I personally enjoy listening to the playing he did on albums in the very late 80's thru early 90's the most.
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I think frank s may have been referring more to your comment "He seems far less comfortable on the instrument now than then and his execution was a lot cleaner then too..." [img]wink.gif[/img] ...of course, now i may be sticking my nose "where it don't belong" [img]redface.gif[/img] [of course, I'm curious about that statement, AW [img]wink.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img] ]
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ October 21, 2003 02:29 PM: Message edited by: FuseU1 ]</font>
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Wow - Vinnie seems as clean/confident to me as he did on Allan's Secrets album. Listen to the Jing Chi stuff. He's still owns the kit.... Maybe maturity has tempered his "unbridledness", as it was called in the '93 Modern Drummer Interview.
