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I know what you mean. How the hell can Bozzio reach that water bottle from where he's sitting? He could dehydrate and pass out during one of his long pieces.
I think that famularo it's a little out of place in that list...
Its like Dom's the punch-line. (kinda like on this forum)
My first question would also be what Dom is doing on that page? Monster? perhaps. But "all-around monster"?
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Terry's most recent set is bigger than that thing...
Was the Dominator on that page?
I'm not sure I understand the point of this topic. is it about Terry's kit?
I am not sure either about the exact point of the topic, but some criticism I have of the site is:
1. The list of players is far from complete and certainly a matter of debate.
2. It seem as though many members here would argue that placing Dom on the site was a "mistake"
3. It's news to me that Steve's last name is spelled "Gaad". [img]cool.gif[/img]
I propose for all members one easy-helpful "rule":
Please name the title of the topic with a phrase that gives some clear information about the real topic.
Just my opinion. Bye
I guess the point here is "What the hell is this guy thinking" adding dom to the list??
Moose.....I think terry's got a pedal for the water that feeds to him when he plays. [img]wink.gif[/img]
Benrand..... soon to come. Terris going to have a new kit the size of an apartment complex. He'll have to train for 10k runs so he can play the damn thing.
Steve.... sent this guy an e-mail. Told him to check out HOD and add it to his list of "cool weblinks" [img]cool.gif[/img]
Poor Dom. Hope he never goes to HOD and reads this stuff.
Why is it Donald Fagen who's displayed at Dom F's spot? [img]confused.gif[/img]
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Most definetely this was the point. I thought it would be abundantly clear. Sorry for the confusion.Quote:
Originally posted by JoesMechanic:
I guess the point here is "What the hell is this guy thinking" adding dom to the list??
Why are we introducing people's websites by bashing them? I don't think that's cool.
I believe in the golden rule: treat others as you want to be treated...
I sure as hell wouldn't want to stumble on to this website to find people bashing MY own website.
What does this say about us as the HOD community?
Trust me on this one: All this negativity lately will keep bigger name players from ever joining our community- because it'll have the appearance of a kiddie forum. And it will also make the ones that are here stop frequenting it. Mark my words.
I like a little drama/controversy now and then to keep things interesting, but...
Disclaimer: this is not directed at one person. Take it personally only if it applies to you. I'm guilty myself...don't mean to sound 'preachy'
While I see your point and agree with you, I would argue that the "bashing" or criticism only took place while the exact topic of this post was unclear. I would say it is perfectly ok to state that this list is uncomplete and while it isn't fair to always rip on Dom, many people here seem to share the same opinion.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Probably written by a Dutchman. Always putting double vowels together.Quote:
Originally posted by Suspiria:
It's news to me that Steve's last name is spelled "Gaad". [img]cool.gif[/img]
Nigel Powers: There are only two things I hate; those who are intolerant of other people's cultures... and the Dutch.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wow. This guy really knows no limits, huh?!Quote:
Originally posted by benrand:
JM, I think Terry's gone and done it...
Terry and his new kit
SIX bass drums...
more...
Incredible...look at the pedals.
If someone had ALOT of spare time on their hands, it would be interesting to take a visual inventory of every drum, stand, pedal, and cymbal in those pictures, to a best estimate, and then go up on music123.com, or similar website, and see how much it would cost the average person to purchase that drumset.
My guess is around $150K..... Any other guesses?
I can't believe that there are two entire threads on HOD dedicated to bashing Dom.
Pretty sad.
Is it me or does weckl's snare drum look kind of high in relation to his seating height?
Terry needs to just come to grips, and play piano already.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL - good point... but then how would he do ostinatos with his feet?! I think he needs more than three pedals.Quote:
Originally posted by Steve Holmes:
Terry needs to just come to grips, and play piano already.
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Good one Steve
I think Terry is great, but this crap I found on his web page is a bit cocky
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'll give him the first paragraph. As for the second, I beleive most on that list have had different drummers as well. Third paragraph, isn't what he doing just like multiple perc. pieces but more prolific. Anyways who else has the endorsements to fund this kind of thing? Oh yeah, I never knew Terry knew how to lathe and hammer metal into a cymbal.Quote:
A percussion array that spans sixteen feet, includes literally dozens of drums and cymbals, and requires no fewer than eleven pedals to operate must require several drummers to play it.
But there's only one Terry Bozzio.
Musical credits ranging from the eccentric and ultra-complex compositions of Frank Zappa to the new-wave pop of Missing Persons, and from the blazing progressive rock of UK, the Brecker Brothers, and Jeff Beck to the esoteric stylings of the Lonely Bears should demand the talents of several different drummers.
But there's only one Terry Bozzio.
Then there's the development of a completely new approach to solo drum performance, along with the composition of musical pieces for that new approach. And the design of a toally new line of cymbals. And the invention of specialty drumsticks and bass drum beaters. Surely these things require the imagination and creative skills of multiple individuals. Nope.
But there's only one Terry Bozzio.
The fact is, Terry Bozzio has accomplished more, in both traditional and totally original roles, than virtually any other drummer in the history of the instrument. He's spent his career expanding the boundaries of percussion, and he's nowhere near a stopping point. So come along for the ride!
It's so disheartening to read stuff like this on someones own web page. I'm so glad my fav(Vinnie) is so modest.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL - good point... but then how would he do ostinatos with his feet?! I think he needs more than three pedals.Quote:
Originally posted by CLWarunki:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Steve Holmes:
Terry needs to just come to grips, and play piano already.
[img]tongue.gif[/img] </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No Problem, DW are allready planning on building a Custom 6ply Ancient Wood finish Piano for Bozzio. Rumours indicate that DW needed to Buy 6 Elephants to cover the Ivory needed for this piano!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I dont think there was any Dom bashing in this thread. At least not by me. I am not altogether uncertain Dom himself wouldn't say, "What the hell is this guy thinking?" [img]wink.gif[/img]Quote:
Originally posted by CLWarunki:
I can't believe that there are two entire threads on HOD dedicated to bashing Dom.
Pretty sad.
Steve..... funny!!
Although I've got to give it to Terry. I'm not making a living playing drums.
I think the "sounds" he's created with what looks like roto-tom frames put into a HH stand are really interesting. I have the EZtree torrent of him playing with that orchestra in Germany (me thinks its Germany??), and I feel it's a little over the top. Can't really handle listening to it for very long. But Terri's is definetly one of the guys that set some new ground for alot of us players.
Not to insult Dom, and I agree with the poster that said going out of your way to make fun of him isn't productive. I would take issue with the websites claim about Dom. Just my own opinion.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haha!Quote:
I know what you mean. How the hell can Bozzio reach that water bottle from where he's sitting? He could dehydrate and pass out during one of his long pieces.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hehe!Quote:
Moose.....I think terry's got a pedal for the water that feeds to him when he plays
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hahaha! Amen on that one!Quote:
Terry needs to just come to grips, and play piano already.
... I must say, this topic has the most funny quotes on one page of all the ones i have read so far, keep up the good work [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] [img]wink.gif[/img] [img]cool.gif[/img]
Steve's right.
No off [& you guys had some good ones, lol], but, per the kit size -
while TB is one of my old heroes - Zappa, UK, Missing Persons, Jeff Beck, Black Light Syndrome, Vai, P Moraz, M Isham, etc - THAT is flipping "Over The Top!" [U.S.S. Bozzio]...beyond the pale; extreme. Better he than I.
We talked of this in here a good while back. Cartage?! Fuhgitabowdit...that would be SOME kit price-tag AW...plus the alarm-system against thieves [includes land-mines, wall, electric fence, IBMs, laser-interceptors...you get the pic].
DeeP_FRieD - I agree with ya. Welcome to [deep in-] the age of shamless, over the top, aggresive, borderline arrogant[?] self-promotion.
Side-note: Getting away from TBoz - I worked for a guy who practiced this as a life-art form for darn near a decade [that is, OTT self promo]. He was an image-churning factory; a traveling medicine-man-minstrel; a politically correct, used-car-salesman [NTM a regular, full-of-cr**ola pretensious bastid, to say the least]. Yeah, I know..."let it go, man!"...issues...but I learned a lot from him, both pro & [mostly] con. I mention [vent] it once-to-three times a year in here; it helps me not to have to go and shoot the guy, even though I'd be doing his soon-to-be-ex a favor. [img]wink.gif[/img] J/K ...Can ya care to wager a guess as to why she's an up-&-coming "soon to be-?" ... ["reap-sow, kharma, get what's coming, come back to bite ya, do unto others, just rewards, come-uppance" - whatever you want to call it]...
This was in no way a comparison or reflection on the Boz man, it was a reflection per DF's comments. At least TB is an drumset "artist," & not simply a BS "artist." [img]wink.gif[/img]
I would prefer not to procalim my own self as a modern-day drumset artist, though. [img]graemlins/sure.gif[/img] ...because if VINNIE, WECKL, or VIRGIL ain't doin' it, then I DARN sure as heck ain't gonna. [img]wink.gif[/img]
TB's a renowned AWA GREAT drummer, but he just isn't quite at those 3 cats' level, sorry [JMHO]. And, altho I'm sure he didn't write that about himself [as it would appear somone else wrote it about him, for his site], that promo left it open for this comparison.
Meh...there i go, opening up another can of worms... [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Yet...<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">...[AWA a zillion other sound sources, trinkets, & bobbles he can get his hands on] -Quote:
...Although [you] have to give it to Terry. [He's] making a living playing the drums ...
TRUE, that. [img]cool.gif[/img]
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ March 30, 2005 06:20 PM: Message edited by: fuseU1 ]</font>
A little "late night" humor is a good thing. The point of the thread is Dom included as a "Monster Drummer."
That's just funny Late Night stand-up humor. If it was true that taking a shot at someone was going to keep them from "joining in," then Leno or Letterman would never have any A-list guests.
I personally know a "big name" drummer that lurks as an unknown in drum forums and goes for a good laugh, not for drumming information.
JM, I think Terry's gone and done it...
Terry and his new kit
SIX bass drums...
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'll give him the first paragraph. As for the second, I beleive most on that list have had different drummers as well. Third paragraph, isn't what he doing just like multiple perc. pieces but more prolific. Anyways who else has the endorsements to fund this kind of thing? Oh yeah, I never knew Terry knew how to lathe and hammer metal into a cymbal.Quote:
Originally posted by DeeP_FRieD:
I think Terry is great, but this crap I found on his web page is a bit cocky
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">A percussion array that spans sixteen feet, includes literally dozens of drums and cymbals, and requires no fewer than eleven pedals to operate must require several drummers to play it.
But there's only one Terry Bozzio.
Musical credits ranging from the eccentric and ultra-complex compositions of Frank Zappa to the new-wave pop of Missing Persons, and from the blazing progressive rock of UK, the Brecker Brothers, and Jeff Beck to the esoteric stylings of the Lonely Bears should demand the talents of several different drummers.
But there's only one Terry Bozzio.
Then there's the development of a completely new approach to solo drum performance, along with the composition of musical pieces for that new approach. And the design of a toally new line of cymbals. And the invention of specialty drumsticks and bass drum beaters. Surely these things require the imagination and creative skills of multiple individuals. Nope.
But there's only one Terry Bozzio.
The fact is, Terry Bozzio has accomplished more, in both traditional and totally original roles, than virtually any other drummer in the history of the instrument. He's spent his career expanding the boundaries of percussion, and he's nowhere near a stopping point. So come along for the ride!
It's so disheartening to read stuff like this on someones own web page. I'm so glad my fav(Vinnie) is so modest.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Terry is too much of a REAL artist to be modest... really, why should he be? The guy is light years ahead of most drummers when it comes to musicallity and individuality. Being modest is so passe.
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But yeah, I wonder if Terry wrote that all himself! LMAO!
P.S. Stewart Copeland used to write rave reviews of The Police (HIS OWN BAND!) in the early years, often praising his own drumming... of course no one at the time knew these reviews were coming from him. I find this to be very anti-modest, brilliant and hilarious.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">There was an earlier thread about how over rated Dom Famularo is as a drummer ie: can't groove, can't keep time, can't play with other musicians (I don't agree with any of that). Anyway, I presume the point is that someone doesn't think he belongs on the "All Around Monster" page of the forum owner with the others on that page.Quote:
Originally posted by Steve Holmes:
I'm not sure I understand the point of this topic. is it about Terry's kit?
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Alright Pocket...How much do we need to pay you to find out...?Quote:
Originally posted by PocketPlayer:
I personally know a "big name" drummer that lurks as an unknown in drum forums and goes for a good laugh, not for drumming information.
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The size of TB's kit completely overshadowed & dwarfed the business of the "monsta-drummadom" [sounds like a monster Godzilla would fight] [img]tongue.gif[/img]<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Me, too.Quote:
Stewart Copeland used to write rave reviews of The Police (HIS OWN BAND!) in the early years, often praising his own drumming... of course no one at the time knew these reviews were coming from him. I find this to be very anti-modest, brilliant and hilarious.
Smart of him. [img]wink.gif[/img]
The guy I used to work for used to do similarly...
Covertly subversive subterfuge...& smart.
...[But that didn't make him any less of an axe-haul.] [img]wink.gif[/img]