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Check these new video clips:
http://www.arihoenig.com/mp3s.htm
This is the Ari Hoenig Quartet live at the Fat Cat. All I can say is 'ouch'... While Ari's technique has nothing to with Weckl's, he is considered one of the hottest young jazz drummers in New-York. He plays/played with Jean-Michel Pilc, Kenny Werner, Joshua Redman, Jonathan Kreisburg and Wayne Krantz. His metric modulation stuff is totally sick!
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I just caught Ari with Jean-Michel Pilc on BET 2 nights ago and holy crap I was impressed! Sounds like a cross between Bill Stewart, Jack and Tain. He looks SO uncomfortable but he sounds killer. I gotta find the concert on video or DVD.
I'd love to hear him with Krantz.
He is unbelivable! Thanks for the info Derek...
What a breeze of fresh air! I love the unique sounds he created on some of those tracks. I must say he reminds me a little of Joey Baron's style.
Although I couldn't last for one gig sitting cramped up like that I guess it works for him. Are there any past recordings with the line up or maybe even of the gig?! I would seriously consider buying this.
And what a great room to play in! Liked the rugs on the walls, looks like your average living room - Must have great sound in there.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 14, 2004 07:40 PM: Message edited by: Suspiria ]</font>
thank you, samuel.
unbelievable. he's exactly as you described him! his sound from the kit is so awesome. such concept, dynamics, texture, musicality and you can tell he sees the overall composition in whatever tune he's playing.
the posts from the past few days have been esp. inspiring!
oops, props to you derek. "he's exactly as you described him"!
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Agreed. I thought that I was watching THE HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME! I've been hearing about him for a while now, I think he's done a lot of recordings in the last few years and has been in MD but in my opinion he dosen't even come close to the depth or mastery of Bill Stewart. Not even in the top 10 jazz drummers I've seen/heard. I liked some of his odd phrasing and ideas though... hard to "watch" him play though. How young is he exactly??Quote:
Originally posted by Derek DeFields:
I just caught Ari with Jean-Michel Pilc on BET 2 nights ago and holy crap I was impressed! Sounds like a cross between Bill Stewart, Jack and Tain. He looks SO uncomfortable but he sounds killer.
P.S. MATCH GRIP!!! [img]redface.gif[/img]
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 14, 2004 08:11 PM: Message edited by: CLWarunki ]</font>
To Suspiria:
I suggest you
Ari Hoenig - Time Travels
Jean-Michel Pilc - Cardinal Points (ouch!)
Kenny Werner - Beauty Secrets
I bought these albums at Archambault Berri some time ago. You might still find some of them...
wow - thanks for letting us know about Ari, he's incredible and just so musical. You lot got it spot on, Bill Stewart, Tain and Joey Baron. I hear David King from The Bad Plus too. [img]smile.gif[/img] Ari's trio reminds me of them aswell and quite qwerky!
His brush playing on 'Sweet and Lovely' is just beautiful. [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]
Dazzler, I hear a bit of Joey Baron and Dave King in his approach too. The Bad Plus are great... saw them live a while ago.
Wasn't there some weird project where Baron teamed up with Mike Patton and some others? What was it called?
lotsa canucks on this board! pretty refreshing. any of ya hear of LuKa? Canadian drum co? check it out.
My word. There's good money to be made as that guy's chiropractor... [img]eek.gif[/img]
Hi Guy,
Well I'm not fan of what I saw on the Ari's web site.
And I don't see any point with him and "Tain"...
Just my opinion, he's of course a good drummer/musician, but he does nothing on me.
Peace.
The guy can play.... But I wouldn't suggest picking up any technique tips from him!
I have to agree with Warunki...I'm not overly impressed by him,... doesn't make my list of greats...
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ December 15, 2004 06:51 AM: Message edited by: Drumman74 ]</font>
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks for the suggestions. Ill be sure to check them out as soon as possible.Quote:
Originally posted by Samuel Lambert:
To Suspiria:
I suggest you
Ari Hoenig - Time Travels
Jean-Michel Pilc - Cardinal Points (ouch!)
Kenny Werner - Beauty Secrets
I bought these albums at Archambault Berri some time ago. You might still find some of them...
what's with the stiff arms in those videos? my drum teacher always told me not to play like that!
man, its nice to see some ideas that are new and creative. I hear Han Benink and Tony Williams, but i see Mr. MGoo meets Woody Harrelson. A nice fresh break from the mechanistic onslought of european uber-drummers! Achtung-bitch.
I've seen Ari live and it's truly an experience. He uses metric modulation and odd groupings so seamlessly to add tension and intensity in the music. Even though he looks really stiff and mechanical when he's playing, you'd never be able to tell from the sound and fluidity he gets.
Well, he's definitely not going to win the award for prettiest technique. Yikes! [img]confused.gif[/img]
He looks awful tense and his movements seem very exaggerated, it's almost cartoonish. Having said that, his sound is nice and it doesn't sound stiff.
Wow Ari is pretty spooky. Keith Carlock's technique also disturbs me, the Oz Noy Trio videos on his site genuinely creep me out. http://www.keithcarlock.com/video.htm
Both these guys techniques are so against the grain of what I've be taught they just baffle me. I wonder how did these fellas come to this strange approach? I can't explain it but I'm glad these guys play the way they do.
I guess you get that technique by drinking water directly from the Hudson River.
Ari Hoenig is BAD. Saw him in November at the Fat Cat, playing trio with Francois Mouton and Marcus Strickland. I think it was the first night that band had played. KILLING. SO melodic.
He's also great with Wayne Krantz.
Great creative playing. There's no right way to play the drums. I get a kick out of guys who do it differently and sound as good as Ari. He pulls a lot Tain like over the bar line figures. So does HASS when he plays jazz.
The only reason I'm not THAT into Ari, is that he doesn't really play many styles. But he's amazing at playing like Ari.
I just saw the clips. Wow! Very nice. He totally rips off Steve Hass on many of those modulations and diplacements. Hass on the other hand also uses odd quintuplets and septuplets over four beats.
I didn't really enjoy the drumistic arrangements. I hate music arranged for the sole purpose of a drummer blowing uneven rhythms.
I enjoyed his playing very much. He is into his own thing, which is great. His melodic playing is simply amazing. He's fun to watch, his whole body is involved, he feels the rhythm to the core.
He has fantastic technique and some great ears.
I like this guy, I most likely will pick up his CD.
Interesting playing. I still enjoy watching Bill Stewart play a lot more than Ari, or Keith Carlock for that matter. It just...hurts...to see that kind of technique.