10 Session drummers who changed.......

OK, this has been bugging me for a bit now so I have to vent. The most recent "DRUM" magazine issue has a feature on the 10 session drummers who changed music. They state that these 10 guys have enjoyed very busy answering machines and have given us some of the most memorable drumming ever committed to tape. Most of the guys they have listed I would wholeheartedly concur with. However, they only mention Jeff Porcaro in passing and don't feature him as one of the 10. You've got to be kidding me [img]eek.gif[/img] Ain't right!
CB

Bernard Purdie should have been on that list also.

Good List, don't know whom to replace Porcaro with. He must be in his league of his Own! [img]cool.gif[/img]

BTW Matt Chamberlain did a great Session with Tori Amos, her new album is with him all the way 19 tracks! ( some with programming though [img]graemlins/thumbs_down.gif[/img] )

However, great sound and tasty playing! [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img]

not including Bernard Purdie and Jeff Porcaro in that list is like not including jordan and magic in nba's top 10 list. man, who wrote that list? josh freeze and kenny arnoff changing music? c'mon! that list kinda pisses me off.

What?

Jeff, JR, Pretty, & Marotta[s], weren't included in there w those other greats? How about perhaps Newmark or Steve Ferrone, didn't they do a qualifying amount of sessions? Or Steve Schaeffer, Craig Krampf, or Adam Nussbaum, perhaps? [OK, now I might be stretching it out a bit...] ;c)

Sounds like the article should've been titled "the Fifteen [or more] Session Drummers Who..."
Or just simply, "Drummers Who..." [img]wink.gif[/img]

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cjbdrm:
Sounds like a journalist and not a musician

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL
Sounds like he was on the $ for the most part, but...ya can'ts be pullin' no slight of hand w us drummers... [img]tongue.gif[/img]

That cat who wrote that article might find himself in a room w a select horde of we disgruntled JP [etc] fans, armed to the teeth w his sig sticks...[& some mallots; & if he's really unlucky, some metal-wire brushes - oooohh, now THAT smarts!!]... [img]redface.gif[/img] [img]wink.gif[/img] J/K

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ February 26, 2005 11:58 AM: Message edited by: fuseU1 ]</font>

My $0.02 - Chamberlain and Freese should be replaced by Harvey Mason and Jeff Porcaro

True that Benny, but you must also pay respect to the younger readers of the magazine, whom respect goes out to these two new-generation session-drummers. It's hard to put 10 drummers in this list and satisfy all readers, but still. very unfair Purdie and Jeff is not there.

Yep. Mason. There's another one...how could I have forgotten him? [img]redface.gif[/img] [img]wink.gif[/img] [img]cool.gif[/img]

I think they owe it to the younger readers to inform them about the first / orig "old school" guys...b4 they get to these new young upstarts / whippersnappers, klemme [img]wink.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[Edit:] Good point, BR [next post, below - I'm mindreading HODhb now] ;cp

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ February 25, 2005 02:26 PM: Message edited by: fuseU1 ]</font>

They put the new guys in there as a marketing tool.

What has Josh Freese done that compares to Andy Newmark playing with Clapton or Bowie?

Benny,
You nailed it. I'm with you man...

MP

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Originally posted by shedder:
josh freeze and kenny arnoff changing music? c'mon! that list kinda pisses me off.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I still don't understand what anyone hears in Kenny Aaronoff's playing. Nothing unique or extraordinary to me.

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ February 25, 2005 05:07 PM: Message edited by: drumming sort of person ]</font>

It strikes me as odd that anyone within the last 5 years or so would be included in that list, considering music hasn't changed at all during that timeframe.

I'm pretty sure Josh has been on the scene more than 10 years.

Also, the other guys on that list aren't doing anything contemporary except Matt. Matt was the man in the 90's; I don't know what his schedule looks like now but Josh is the modern day 1st call guy, at least in L.A.

None of the guys on that list changed music anyway IMO. Some of them played with people that did.

Josh Freese on the list give me a break! Aronoff also to a large degree. These guy's play in a narrow framework compared to certain guy's. Freese is on the list because he is one of Drum magazines Poster boy's. Porcaro, JR., Mason, Purdie where are they?!!! These guy's along with Gadd, Keltner and other's played with guy's who had a BIG hand in shaping music, Freese and Aronoff have not.

Dig

I agree with the general consensus on Freese and Aranoff. They are good, and they play alot. But come on, maybe they will deserve to be on that list in like a decade.

What about JR Robinson ? Seems to me he should be on that top ten list !

http://www.stevelukather.net/images/biography/jeff.jpg

More that were not considered...

John Guerin, Russ Kunkel, RIck Marotta, Emil Richards, Mick Fleetwood...

Did they also foreget the great Manu Katch? our french drummer hero : come on
Sting, Peter Gabriel, Joe Satriani, Tears for Fears, Simple Minds, Dire Straits etc and some of the most important musicians in France !

Blasphemy !

Matt is CRAZY busy... i talked to him about it... he says he is never home, and when he is home, he is recording in his studio. The list of things he has been on, as of late, is impressive.

They must be kidding.

Another danish bassplayer whom in a tv program presented his Cd-collection, wrecked a TOTO album, saying that he was embarresed about owning this album, and it was geeky owning anything with them.

what has the world come down to.... [img]frown.gif[/img]

Best thing is to ignore these new writes etc. and trust yourself for what you feel about Jeff.

Yeah, I would say during Jeff's time his phone rang the most next to Gadd, then JR. Of course Keltner, Palmer, Baird was doing quite abit of studio too.

Who are the ten? I guess I would have to know what they meant by "changing music", but ten sounds like 4 or 5 too many to me.

I would say Hal Blaine and Gary Chester would be the pioneers, they firmly established the studio drumming role. Then there's Gadd. That would probably be it for me. Just because you make a contribution doesn't mean you changed music. But if I had to name 10 influential studio drummers, Porcaro would definitely be in there.

Sounds like a journalist and not a musician.

One thing is to have a lot of work, and have a permanent ringing phone, and other is to change the music!!!!.
There are dozens, or even hundres of drummers working all the time that don't have a direct impact in the evolution of music.

Having said that, the name of Porcaro Should have been in that list IMHO.


.....By the way, who are the 10 names?

Hey CJBDRM sorry if I repeated your idea, you must have posted a few seconds before me [img]wink.gif[/img]

<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ February 25, 2005 12:49 PM: Message edited by: Pedro G ]</font>

aronoff was 1 of them i believe

Whewww! I'm glad you guys agree(I'm not crazy after all. Well,maybe just a taste)!
Here is the 10 they have listed:
Kenny Aronoff
Eddie Bayers
Hal Blaine
Matt Chamberlain
Vinnie Colauita
Josh Freese
Steve Gadd
Al Jackson Jr.
Jim Keltner
Earl Palmer.

CB

Groovissimo,

Well put mate, you said everything without typing a word...

MP

Groovissimo,

Well put mate, you said everything without typing a word...

MP