I am officially too old... Sithappointment...

Well, it's done.

Over.

Fini.

C'est tout.

Perhaps I am too old to go to midnight showings anymore. Perhaps my brain no longer functions properly at 12:01am. Perhaps my inner child actually goes to bed at 8:00pm.

Or perhaps I have just become accustomed to well made movies and expect, nay, demand more from the world that I grew up in.

Like Anakin, I am now a Sith Lord. Having watched everything I love slowly taken from me piece by piece while I stand by feeling helpless, anger has finally consumed me and the dark side has taken over.

Lucas, you suck.

My hopes for Revenge of the Sith did not include leaving the theatre with this single thought...

Well, it was better than I and II.

I am tired. Lucas is a fool who has watched one too many Abbot and Costello flicks and I am crying on the inside.

Oh, well.

See it again, I must. Perhaps clouded is my judgement.

For those of you who have yet to see it, the theatre is your hollow tree on Dagobah and what you will find inside is only what you take with you.

Thank you for my new signature. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Which part?

Ah.

<font color="#cd6600"><font size="1">[ May 19, 2005 09:28 AM: Message edited by: Spore ]</font></font>

Did I spell Dagobah right? Is it 2 g's? Where are the real geeks when you need them? [img]tongue.gif[/img]

<font color="#cd6600" size="1">[ May 19, 2005 09:30 AM: Message edited by: Spore ]</font>

I'm right here.
Dagobah has only one "g".

You spelled it right. And you have to take it as anything now adays.. A movie.

I'm going to see it in about 3 hours.... Spore's quote has properly prepared me.

If I go into the movie with an adult frame of mind, expecting an adult-focused movie, I will be disappointed.

If I go in with the "Sunday Matinee Serial" mentality that Lucas had when he started the series, I'll probably enjoy it.

I always go into the theater with a "Sunday Matinee Serial" mentality - which is why most movies bore me. So I should be safe. [img]wink.gif[/img]

Sunday Manatee?

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Originally posted by AoD:
And you have to take it as anything now adays.. A movie.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">no you don't. And if people would stop thinking that way maybe there would be fewer shit movies made.

I used to try and make Manatee Sundays.... but they kept knocking the cherries off the ice cream scoop with their flippers. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I didn't say all people.. Just the ones that actually see the movie..

Edit: The ones that should delve into it more, should pay more attention (to everything) and actually make it in the view as "this is my life's blood, sweat, tears, and work",such as the directors, producors, actors, and all involved in making the movie, THEN we wouldn't have so many shitty movies.

But if we, as the viewer, wouldn't make it out to be the end of the world if the movie wasn't EVERYTHING we wanted it to be, and didn't have high expectations of everything (Unfortunately it being human nature to do so), we wouldn't be so dissappointed in things.. Some people take a world created by one man's imagination too seriously in this day and age.

<font color="#cd6600" size="1">[ May 19, 2005 01:45 PM: Message edited by: AoD ]</font>

say what you shall, nothin and nobody can deny the absolute ass kickingness that is Master Yoda.

I think for many of us (though I think more so the majority) who were there for Star Wars in '77 and The Empire Strikes Back an eon later it can be said that we are the only ones who actually remember and held on to Lucas's original world.

At what point (enter the Ewoks) did Lucas feel it was necessary to take a story and dumb it down with childish antics. From burping alien frogs and Sarlaccs, to the baby-gibbering Gungans and battledroids to swinging Jawas and head-swapping droids the original fans that enabled the franchise to endure have received nothing short of a slap in the face and a "fuck you" from the man at the helm.

Thank you for the insult Lucas. Thank you very much.

I, and a million other people just like me, stood up behind you when Hollywood laughed at your idea and, accept it or not, gave you the financing and the encouragement needed to take that little film of yours and run with it.

It's hard enough to look people in the eye and admit being a die-hard Star Wars fan without knowing deep down inside that for the last several installments we are simply clinging to the tattered fragments of a great tale which began over 30 years ago.

Sithappointed is my new word.

Sith?ap?point
v. Sith?ap?point?ed, Sith?ap?point?ing, Sith?ap?points
v. tr.
To fail to satisfy the hope, desire, or expectation of deserving fans.
To frustrate or thwart: ?I will Sithappoint the confidence you have put in me to make a great franchise even greater?.
To crush the life out of a dream and leave a hollow shell that will only be filled with the utter sorrow for what could have been.

Lastly, I do want to thank you for the initial dream. When I was 9 you showed me the stars in a way I could never have imagined on my own. I truly appreciate it, honestly, even though now I sincerely want to bitch-slap the fucking grey hairs out of your beard for pissing it away...

<font color="#cd6600" size="1">[ May 19, 2005 03:46 PM: Message edited by: Spore ]</font>

I just returned from the movie and offer this fresh point of view:

While there has been alot of childish and ham-handed things in the entire series, there hasn't been enough for adults to dislike or downplay the power of the complete story and characters as "just a kiddee movie".

Episode III is the darkest of the six and the occasional blips of humor (regardless of how silly) were not unwelcome. If anything, they allowed us a breather, and a smiling reminder that "oh yeah... we're at a movie... now back to kicking your ass."

There were a few moments where I rolled my eyes and would have liked to kick Lucas in the nuts.... but overall I thought it was a great inclusion to this story that I've enjoyed since childhood.

So many storylines were completed as well as tons of details where people familiar enough with the saga wills say... "ahhhh... that's how that happens."

Big thumbs up and I'll gladly see it again. [img]smile.gif[/img]

<font color="#cd6600" size="1">[ May 19, 2005 03:58 PM: Message edited by: B?im?n ]</font>

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I just returned from the movie and offer this fresh point of view:

While there has been alot of childish and ham-handed things in the entire series, there hasn't been enough for adults to dislike or downplay the power of the complete story and characters as "just a kiddee movie".

Episode III is the darkest of the six and the occasional blips of humor (regardless of how silly) were not unwelcome. If anything, they allowed us a breather, and a smiling reminder that "oh yeah... we're at a movie... now back to kicking your ass."

There were a few moments where I rolled my eyes and would have liked to kick Lucas in the nuts.... but overall I thought it was a great inclusion to this story that I've enjoyed since childhood.

So many storylines were completed as well as tons of details where people familiar enough with the saga wills say... "ahhhh... that's how that happens."

Big thumbs up and I'll gladly see it again. [img]smile.gif[/img]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You sound soooo like Ebert

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Thank you ... I think. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I think his transition to the dark side is perfectly woven. He acts brashly and emotionally the way he always does (Hmm... got his hand cut off by Dooku... good move, young one) but doesn't have any idea what kind of mess he's in until he's past the point of no return.

With exception of only a few "Oh George... why did you have to include that?" moments... it's a great movie. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Apparently Obi-Wan is a very cool and collected character of stoic demeanor... unless hacking apart battle droids... at which point jovial banter and a quick-witted tongue is considered Jedi Master protocol...

I will add this. I did not hate the movie and my wife actually enjoyed it thoroughly. I will be seeing it again. I will be buying the Trilogy box set when it comes out.

I see that as a man who has a great sense of humor and personality who,while performing the duties that he has so much respect for, still finds a way to interject that personality.

That personality is one of the things that made Obi Wan such a great Jedi and why he took to the personality of the brash Anakin.

Anakin's lack of being able to balance his personality with his duty becomes his downfall.

Ultimately, it doesn't really matter what any of us say....

... like a glass half empty or half full, you'll either enjoy it or not on your own wants/needs/expectations.

I think it's all subconcious, and about hype


as a plain old movie, Ep. 3's probably damn good, as this big "final Star Wars movie crazy big shit" and whatnot hyped-up movie/franchise that it's become, expectations by anyone/everyone were probably too high, whether they liked it or not

In my view.

I grew up to believe that Darth Vader was this darkness of ultimate death and master killer of Jedis. A man so dark, so twisted that all that mattered to him was the slaying of insignaficance towards his crusade for might.
This is what the original trilogy made me believe.

After E3, the legacy and terror that Vader carried from the original trilogy is now dead. He is no Jedi hunter, he is no great warrior, Nuff said!

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BTW, the special effects,battle/fight scenes and designs of E3 were probably of the best, and the plot had strong connections but fell through IMO because of the weak dialogue and of the static emotions by certain actors.

I put my review up tonight...I'm certainly not as kind as Baimun [img]wink.gif[/img]

http://www.mwctoys.com/MOVIES_ROTS_051905.htm

Michael
MWC

Saw it at 12:01 AM this morning.

It took a little while to get going, but once Anakin finally goes dark, it's a great ride-- bumps and all.

Yeah, there were some goofy Keystone Cops moments in the beginning, and yeah, some eye-rolling dialogue, but all that was overshadowed by some truly amazing and powerful scenes.

Hands-down, my favorite part of the movie was Order 66. I was completely blown away. Shocked, disgusted, heartbroken, and totally in awe.

And the duel on Mustafar, with Obi-Wan leaving his best friend to die? Christensen and McGregor's performances were jaw-dropping. When Anakin screams, "I HATE YOU!" it cut right through me.

And don't even get me started on McDiarmid... in this film, Palpatine finally gets his moment... the one we knew he had in him at the end of Return of the Jedi.

There are so many powerful images in the movie that I don't want to spoil for the fans who haven't seen the picture yet. So many things that pay tribute to the original trilogy, including that last moment just before the credits.

So Episode III has its flaws.

Revenge of the Sith is, by no mean, perfect.

But neither were any of the other films-- even the "Holy" Trilogy.

Cheesey dialogue I can handle. There hasn't been any great scripting from the get-go and in the right situation (laugh it up fuzzball) the campy lines can help develope a characters personality. (Aye, Obi-Wan.. yer a bit too fiesty now for the grande presence created by Sir Alec Guiness... and if your droid' army's AI doesn't get any higher than a grade 2 level you shouldn't be handing them blasters.)

What I had a problem with was that a lot of the dialogue seemed disjointed. It's almost as though each actor shot their scenes separately and it was all edited together in the end. There were great moments when you could tell the actors were interacting and feeding off of one another but then there were horribly unattached moments that left me thinking... "okay, I've seen these guys act in other movies and I know they can so it must be either the directing or the editing that's killing it".

It makes me believe that having giant green screens as a set really doesn't work for making movies... spectacular visuals, yes... but well acted movies, no.

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That personality is one of the things that made Obi Wan such a great Jedi

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">that, and the fact that he looks damn sexy in those snug jedi pants.

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In my view.

I grew up to believe that Darth Vader was this darkness of ultimate death and master killer of Jedis. A man so dark, so twisted that all that mattered to him was the slaying of insignaficance towards his crusade for might.
This is what the original trilogy made me believe.

After E3, the legacy and terror that Vader carried from the original trilogy is now dead. He is no Jedi hunter, he is no great warrior, Nuff said!

[img]frown.gif[/img]

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">He was, however, really annoying as a kid and a whiny bitch as a young adult.

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He was, however, really annoying as a kid and a whiny bitch as a young adult.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So he was like most people growing up...

Star Wars is the ultimate after-school special.

The Dark Side: It could happen to YOU!

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Originally posted by Spore:
Cheesey dialogue I can handle. There hasn't been any great scripting from the get-go and in the right situation (laugh it up fuzzball) the campy lines can help develope a characters personality. (Aye, Obi-Wan.. yer a bit too fiesty now for the grande presence created by Sir Alec Guiness... and if your droid' army's AI doesn't get any higher than a grade 2 level you shouldn't be handing them blasters.)

What I had a problem with was that a lot of the dialogue seemed disjointed. It's almost as though each actor shot their scenes separately and it was all edited together in the end. There were great moments when you could tell the actors were interacting and feeding off of one another but then there were horribly unattached moments that left me thinking... "okay, I've seen these guys act in other movies and I know they can so it must be either the directing or the editing that's killing it".

It makes me believe that having giant green screens as a set really doesn't work for making movies... spectacular visuals, yes... but well acted movies, no.

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<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">keep in mind the best star wars movie was the one where George Lucas did very little directing...